I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a queen!!

Father · Post by **Father** » Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm

Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]

lkaufman · Post by **lkaufman** » Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am

Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Father · Post by **Father** » Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:45 am

lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am
Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Good evening, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I want to thank you for the explanation of the improvement of the Odds, but above all, I want to tell you and everyone on your team that I feel super happy about your achievements. I invite the worldwide academic community, from kindergarten to post-doctorates, to train with the Odds. According to my perception, I find chances against the robots LeelaQueenOdds, LeelaRookOdds, LeelaQueenForKnightOdds. In LeelaKnightOdds the battle feels like a 'banana versus chimpanzee' fight, and I am the banana. I would like to play again, but thanks to the new measurements in the tables that have diluted my positions in the rankings, even my good health and mental freedom have been preserved. Still, without compromising either my health or mental freedom, I would like to get back into the game against the Odds, but that would be when it becomes almost impossible for humans to win in bullet time control. Maybe that day the space will open up for me to compete again. Thanks again.

Father · Post by **Father** » Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:43 pm

Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:45 am
lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am
Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Good evening, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I want to thank you for the explanation of the improvement of the Odds, but above all, I want to tell you and everyone on your team that I feel super happy about your achievements. I invite the worldwide academic community, from kindergarten to post-doctorates, to train with the Odds. According to my perception, I find chances against the robots LeelaQueenOdds, LeelaRookOdds, LeelaQueenForKnightOdds. In LeelaKnightOdds the battle feels like a 'banana versus chimpanzee' fight, and I am the banana. I would like to play again, but thanks to the new measurements in the tables that have diluted my positions in the rankings, even my good health and mental freedom have been preserved. Still, without compromising either my health or mental freedom, I would like to get back into the game against the Odds, but that would be when it becomes almost impossible for humans to win in bullet time control. Maybe that day the space will open up for me to compete again. Thanks again.
Father: "Good morning, Catecan."
Catecan: "Not so good, Father."
Father: "What's wrong, Catecan? Why are you walking sideways like an old car with a bent chassis?"
Catecan: "Father, ask LeelaQueenOdds."
Father: "Did the Queen do something bad to you, my devoted friend Catecan?"
Catecan: "She beat me up, gave me a thrashing in bullet, imagine that, she has 11 wins from the machine to only 5 draws on my side."
Father: "And where are you going so early with that distressed face, Catecan?"
Catecan: "To the pharmacy to get some medicine, I'm devastated, I can hardly even walk."
Father: "Wait, I'll go with you, I'll accompany you. Whatever happens to you happens to me."
Catecan: "Let's go then. Let's go!!"

Score Catecan versus LeelaQueenOdds
13 jul 2026
Ha jugado 16 partidas Bullet
5
tablas
11
derrotas
12 jul 2026

Father · Post by **Father** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:20 am

Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:43 pm
Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:45 am
lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am
Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

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Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Good evening, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I want to thank you for the explanation of the improvement of the Odds, but above all, I want to tell you and everyone on your team that I feel super happy about your achievements. I invite the worldwide academic community, from kindergarten to post-doctorates, to train with the Odds. According to my perception, I find chances against the robots LeelaQueenOdds, LeelaRookOdds, LeelaQueenForKnightOdds. In LeelaKnightOdds the battle feels like a 'banana versus chimpanzee' fight, and I am the banana. I would like to play again, but thanks to the new measurements in the tables that have diluted my positions in the rankings, even my good health and mental freedom have been preserved. Still, without compromising either my health or mental freedom, I would like to get back into the game against the Odds, but that would be when it becomes almost impossible for humans to win in bullet time control. Maybe that day the space will open up for me to compete again. Thanks again.
Father: "Good morning, Catecan."
Catecan: "Not so good, Father."
Father: "What's wrong, Catecan? Why are you walking sideways like an old car with a bent chassis?"
Catecan: "Father, ask LeelaQueenOdds."
Father: "Did the Queen do something bad to you, my devoted friend Catecan?"
Catecan: "She beat me up, gave me a thrashing in bullet, imagine that, she has 11 wins from the machine to only 5 draws on my side."
Father: "And where are you going so early with that distressed face, Catecan?"
Catecan: "To the pharmacy to get some medicine, I'm devastated, I can hardly even walk."
Father: "Wait, I'll go with you, I'll accompany you. Whatever happens to you happens to me."
Catecan: "Let's go then. Let's go!!"

Score Catecan versus LeelaQueenOdds
13 jul 2026
Ha jugado 16 partidas Bullet
5
tablas
11
derrotas
12 jul 2026
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/rO4Wvlra"]
[Date "2026.07.14"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "rO4Wvlra"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.14"]
[UTCTime "00:14:50"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 e6 2. f4 c5 3. e3 b6 4. Nf3 Na6 5. c3 f5 6. Bd3 Nc7 7. Qe2 Nf6 8. O-O Bb7 9. g3 h5 10. h4 g6 11. Rf2 a5 12. Rg2 b5 13. a3 c4 14. Bc2 a4 15. Nbd2 d5 16. Ng5 Kd7 17. Ndf3 Rg8 18. Bd2 Rg7 19. Be1 Ra6 20. Bd1 Nce8 21. Rc1 Kd6 22. Ne5 Be7 23. Nef3 Bc8 24. Rc2 Kd7 25. Rc1 Kc7 26. Rc2 Rd6 27. Rc1 Ba6 28. Rc2 Bb7 29. Rc1 Ra6 30. Rc2 Ng8 31. Rc1 Nef6 32. Rc2 Kd6 33. Rc1 Bf8 34. Rc2 Ne7 35. Rc1 Nc8 36. Rc2 Be7 37. Rc1 Bf8 38. Ne5 Kc7 39. Rc2 Kd6 40. Rc1 Kc7 41. Rc2 Be7 42. Rc1 Kd6 43. Kh1 Na7 44. Rg1 Nc8 45. Qf1 Kc7 46. Rb1 Ng4 47. Bd2 Nh6 48. Bc1 Bf8 49. Ngf3 Ba8 50. Ne1 Bc6 51. N5f3 Rb6 52. Nd2 Ng4 53. Ndf3 Nd6 54. Ra1 Ne4 55. Qe2 Nef2+ 56. Kg2 Nxd1 57. Qxd1 Nf6 58. Qe2 Ba8 59. Kh1 Rg8 60. Rg2 Bc6 61. Ng5 Bb7 62. Nef3 Rg7 63. Ne5 Be7 64. Bd2 Bf8 65. Be1 Bc8 66. Rc1 Ba6 67. Rc2 Bb7 68. Kg1 Bc8 69. Kh1 Be7 70. Kg1 Bb7 71. Kh1 Kb8 72. Kg1 Bf8 73. Kh1 Bc8 74. Kg1 Be7 75. Kh1 Ka8 76. Kg1 Bf8 77. Kh1 Ka7 78. Kg1 Be7 79. Kh1 Kb8 80. Kg1 Bf8 81. Kh1 Kc7 82. Ngf7 Ng8 83. Ng5 Bb7 84. Ngf7 Bc8 85. Ng5 Rd6 86. Ngf7 Ra6 87. Ng5 Rb6 88. Ngf7 Ra6 89. Ng5 Bb7 90. Ngf7 Nf6 91. Ng5 Bc8 92. Ngf7 Bd6 93. Ng5 Re7 94. Ngf7 Bxe5 95. Nxe5 Rg7 96. Kg1 Bd7 97. Kh1 Bc8 98. Kg1 Ne4 99. Kh1 Ra8 100. Kg1 Kb6 101. Kh1 Kc7 102. Kg1 Kd8 103. Kh2 Kc7 104. Kg1 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Father · Post by **Father** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:01 am

Father wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:20 am
Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:43 pm
Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:45 am
lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am
Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Good evening, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I want to thank you for the explanation of the improvement of the Odds, but above all, I want to tell you and everyone on your team that I feel super happy about your achievements. I invite the worldwide academic community, from kindergarten to post-doctorates, to train with the Odds. According to my perception, I find chances against the robots LeelaQueenOdds, LeelaRookOdds, LeelaQueenForKnightOdds. In LeelaKnightOdds the battle feels like a 'banana versus chimpanzee' fight, and I am the banana. I would like to play again, but thanks to the new measurements in the tables that have diluted my positions in the rankings, even my good health and mental freedom have been preserved. Still, without compromising either my health or mental freedom, I would like to get back into the game against the Odds, but that would be when it becomes almost impossible for humans to win in bullet time control. Maybe that day the space will open up for me to compete again. Thanks again.
Father: "Good morning, Catecan."
Catecan: "Not so good, Father."
Father: "What's wrong, Catecan? Why are you walking sideways like an old car with a bent chassis?"
Catecan: "Father, ask LeelaQueenOdds."
Father: "Did the Queen do something bad to you, my devoted friend Catecan?"
Catecan: "She beat me up, gave me a thrashing in bullet, imagine that, she has 11 wins from the machine to only 5 draws on my side."
Father: "And where are you going so early with that distressed face, Catecan?"
Catecan: "To the pharmacy to get some medicine, I'm devastated, I can hardly even walk."
Father: "Wait, I'll go with you, I'll accompany you. Whatever happens to you happens to me."
Catecan: "Let's go then. Let's go!!"

Score Catecan versus LeelaQueenOdds
13 jul 2026
Ha jugado 16 partidas Bullet
5
tablas
11
derrotas
12 jul 2026
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/rO4Wvlra"]
[Date "2026.07.14"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "rO4Wvlra"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.14"]
[UTCTime "00:14:50"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 e6 2. f4 c5 3. e3 b6 4. Nf3 Na6 5. c3 f5 6. Bd3 Nc7 7. Qe2 Nf6 8. O-O Bb7 9. g3 h5 10. h4 g6 11. Rf2 a5 12. Rg2 b5 13. a3 c4 14. Bc2 a4 15. Nbd2 d5 16. Ng5 Kd7 17. Ndf3 Rg8 18. Bd2 Rg7 19. Be1 Ra6 20. Bd1 Nce8 21. Rc1 Kd6 22. Ne5 Be7 23. Nef3 Bc8 24. Rc2 Kd7 25. Rc1 Kc7 26. Rc2 Rd6 27. Rc1 Ba6 28. Rc2 Bb7 29. Rc1 Ra6 30. Rc2 Ng8 31. Rc1 Nef6 32. Rc2 Kd6 33. Rc1 Bf8 34. Rc2 Ne7 35. Rc1 Nc8 36. Rc2 Be7 37. Rc1 Bf8 38. Ne5 Kc7 39. Rc2 Kd6 40. Rc1 Kc7 41. Rc2 Be7 42. Rc1 Kd6 43. Kh1 Na7 44. Rg1 Nc8 45. Qf1 Kc7 46. Rb1 Ng4 47. Bd2 Nh6 48. Bc1 Bf8 49. Ngf3 Ba8 50. Ne1 Bc6 51. N5f3 Rb6 52. Nd2 Ng4 53. Ndf3 Nd6 54. Ra1 Ne4 55. Qe2 Nef2+ 56. Kg2 Nxd1 57. Qxd1 Nf6 58. Qe2 Ba8 59. Kh1 Rg8 60. Rg2 Bc6 61. Ng5 Bb7 62. Nef3 Rg7 63. Ne5 Be7 64. Bd2 Bf8 65. Be1 Bc8 66. Rc1 Ba6 67. Rc2 Bb7 68. Kg1 Bc8 69. Kh1 Be7 70. Kg1 Bb7 71. Kh1 Kb8 72. Kg1 Bf8 73. Kh1 Bc8 74. Kg1 Be7 75. Kh1 Ka8 76. Kg1 Bf8 77. Kh1 Ka7 78. Kg1 Be7 79. Kh1 Kb8 80. Kg1 Bf8 81. Kh1 Kc7 82. Ngf7 Ng8 83. Ng5 Bb7 84. Ngf7 Bc8 85. Ng5 Rd6 86. Ngf7 Ra6 87. Ng5 Rb6 88. Ngf7 Ra6 89. Ng5 Bb7 90. Ngf7 Nf6 91. Ng5 Bc8 92. Ngf7 Bd6 93. Ng5 Re7 94. Ngf7 Bxe5 95. Nxe5 Rg7 96. Kg1 Bd7 97. Kh1 Bc8 98. Kg1 Ne4 99. Kh1 Ra8 100. Kg1 Kb6 101. Kh1 Kc7 102. Kg1 Kd8 103. Kh2 Kc7 104. Kg1 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

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1 wateenellende 3130 167-90-257 1+0 2026-05-30
2 FeegLood 3127 201-79-192 1+0 2026-06-27
3 Zamzalabim 3022 331-8-26 3+2 2026-06-20
4 catask 3021 51-21-48 1+0 2026-02-12
5 dauANHbac 2915 67-4-47 1+1 2026-02-08
6 ScaryIndianJunior 2902 85-3-84 1+1 2026-05-12
7 blindcrocodile 2848 577-101-665 1+1 2026-06-19
8 pozvonochek 2829 62-37-107 1+0 2026-04-06
9 JoanFluvia 2808 468-58-342 3+1 2026-01-18
10 butokey 2799 55-15-100 1+1 2026-02-05
11 Harry_Rakel 2798 139-19-283 1+1 2026-04-24
12 warmstanbolt 2777 184-20-183 3+0 2026-06-03
13 warmstangantver 2775 78-10-15 3+2 2026-06-03
14 AdmiralHabibi 2774 106-8-72 3+2 2026-05-22
15 WASSERFLASCHENWERFER 2774 42-26-96 1+0 2026-07-13
16 Kacparov 2758 42-4-26 2+0 2026-04-03
17 Orichess88 2747 150-7-94 2+3 2026-06-21
18 old74 2740 427-214-4336 1+1 2026-01-27
19 A27and27 2723 272-25-130 3+2 2026-06-17
20 krakukra 2703 47-2-11 3+2 2026-04-09
21 SilverMitt 2690 214-28-51 5+3 2026-07-13
22 purple_parrot 2652 43-3-12 3+2 2026-07-01
23 Phara0h1 2650 503-93-482 5+0 2026-03-17
24 slowpoke28 2641 199-142-502 2+0 2026-06-27
25 wannabe2700 2627 33-4-52 1+0 2026-06-27
26 eelke 2623 51-12-131 1+1 2026-04-29
27 chessforfun26 2617 293-120-892 2+1 2026-07-01
28 Vagizovich 2608 197-27-138 3+2 2026-07-13
29 Strykler 2606 85-13-131 3+0 2026-07-01
30 JindrichPavelka 2603 1370-414-2604 3+2 2026-07-01
31 Zugzwang70 2598 81-13-79 3+2 2026-03-21
32 solomon88 2594 88-23-164 3+0 2026-04-21
33 Kungstornet 2584 602-117-499 5+2 2026-07-13
34 Robbero 2580 139-9-50 10+0 2026-07-04
35 xx777Tonop777xx 2572 64-56-343 2+0 2026-04-25
36 Chepakh 2554 158-55-482 3+0 2026-05-01
37 Hissha 2552 180-40-147 5+3 2026-07-10
38 Whynot72 2551 148-40-300 3+0 2026-04-16
39 Iron_jack 2550 243-28-198 5+3 2026-06-24
40 stoxt 2545 75-20-212 3+0 2026-03-25
41 LaughingCoffin57 2530 179-50-432 5+0 2026-07-11
42 FideCircus 2529 51-6-16 5+3 2026-06-06
43 cancerlord 2527 123-13-158 3+2 2026-06-28
44 easychill 2521 26-3-9 5+0 2026-06-12
45 gotschi 2520 2568-340-2506 3+5 2026-07-12
46 onmobile 2520 771-160-3008 2+3 2026-06-30
47 l1ght4 2520 25-5-22 3+2 2026-03-23
48 jtcoach 2517 84-19-105 3+2 2026-04-14
49 parfumer1 2517 40-4-44 3+2 2026-06-22
50 trenirovka221 2513 559-63-570 5+2 2026-07-12
51 dontwanther 2506 110-43-412 3+0 2026-06-16
52 Cistatecni 2506 55-12-81 3+2 2026-07-09
53 Dranuano 2494 39-3-17 5+3 2026-04-04
54 Aassaassaa 2493 260-189-995 3+0 2026-03-17
55 justinwhalin 2488 29-2-23 3+2 2026-04-06
56 LeelaEnjoyer12 2486 300-270-1660 1+1 2026-04-29
57 lephudien 2485 3568-446-2884 5+3 2026-07-13
58 Carobee 2480 25-9-18 3+1 2026-03-23
59 xmyy080909 2479 56-23-242 1+1 2026-02-11
60 Tigerberry 2476 19-2-12 3+0 2026-03-18
61 Ljucifer 2472 25-1-18 3+2 2026-03-26
62 quaint0 2467 49-12-87 3+2 2026-05-01
63 chesscoachIM 2465 18-10-48 1+0 2026-03-26
64 Sockwater 2464 49-20-242 1+1 2026-03-20
65 BlindKungFuMaster 2461 35-9-30 5+3 2026-05-04
66 BT_CHESS42 2459 197-81-465 3+2 2026-04-07
67 proddingprawn 2450 164-57-628 3+2 2026-07-13
68 ThePhoenix7 2449 22-3-4 5+3 2026-02-20
69 elsiekay 2442 36-8-74 3+2 2026-06-19
70 Rook-AndRoll 2433 61-24-188 1+2 2026-07-13
71 sansherbina 2432 69-17-136 3+2 2026-07-01
72 raredesk 2432 163-30-440 5+0 2026-07-11
73 LaEnJ 2429 136-207-570 1+2 2026-07-13
74 fryingdog 2425 498-226-1582 3+3 2026-02-09
75 mi2497 2424 46-10-77 3+2 2026-04-30
76 cmdbreivik 2412 516-49-738 10+1 2026-07-01
77 ChessEducation 2411 87-18-128 3+2 2026-04-21
78 Krzysieq445 2410 37-3-15 5+5 2026-01-18
79 mraquariyaz67 2407 15-1-5 1+0 2026-02-11
80 serg4001 2405 206-37-235 5+3 2026-06-24
81 LeafTree 2400 1649-683-3723 10+0 2026-07-12
82 biff4317 2396 17-5-11 3+2 2026-01-16
83 Dalnor 2388 1304-132-483 10+10 2026-07-13
84 Watneg 2380 17-20-42 1+0 2026-04-14
85 ShahMasons 2377 24-4-43 3+2 2026-04-16
86 CoolerMove 2374 121-8-38 10+10 2026-02-26
87 chessdeamon 2373 1006-115-992 10+5 2026-06-25
88 FeliksR 2368 35-8-173 1+1 2026-03-14
89 Atomrod 2366 84-30-91 7+5 2026-03-12
90 MegaDes 2365 41-9-88 3+2 2026-06-29
91 Solar_Lion 2364 16-3-12 3+2 2026-05-27
92 Vikki2011 2363 93-41-186 3+2 2026-06-05
93 maratgron 2363 53-23-174 3+2 2026-06-22
94 DrahacikFM 2361 723-46-254 5+12 2026-07-14
95 cruc1o 2360 25-6-37 3+2 2026-04-20
96 vespillo77 2355 15-3-12 3+2 2026-04-13
97 LindyHopChess 2353 107-159-535 3+2 2026-02-27
98 uczen-369 2350 18-6-34 1+2 2026-05-23
99 AnnaJakubowska 2350 22-2-45 1+1 2026-04-02
100 Catecan 2349 66-6056-6159 1+0 2026-07-14
Updates
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Catecan. "Father: The last will be the first?" Father. "Catecan... 'Traveler, there is no path, the path is made by walking.'" Catecan. "Father, think about your steps and not the goal. Focus on your legs, not the goal. That way you'll cross your marathon finish line!!" Father, "That's right, Catecan, with the help of our Programmer." Catecan. "Father, now I occupy the #100 spot on the LeelaQueenOdds leaderboard. Do you think one day we'll be together in the top spots again?" Father, "Not in our times, but in the times of our Programmer. When the draw gives 0.5 again, the win 1, and the loss 0." Catecan. "All subjects then subject to terms and conditions?" Father. "That's right, Catecan. And to the hard work of the makers of LeelaQueenOdds who manage to beat GMs, MIs, FMs, Ms, and strong players in bullet 99% of the time." Catecan. "Do you think it’s possible and probable, Father?" Father. "Of course, Catecan. They must avoid the prefabbed."

Father · Post by **Father** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 8:57 pm

Father wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:01 am
Father wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 2:20 am
Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:43 pm
Father wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:45 am
lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:08 am
Father wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:03 pm
Father wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:15 pm
Father wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 7:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/V967yV8C"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "V967yV8C"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:58:53"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... f5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... b6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 4... e6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 5... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 6. O-O { [%clk 0:00:59] } 6... h6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. c3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 7... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 8. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 8... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 9. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 9... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 10. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 10... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 11. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 11... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 12. g3 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 12... O-O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 13. Rf2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 13... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 14... g5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 15. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 15... g4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 16... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 17... Rd7 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 18... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 19. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 19... Rgd8 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. a3 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 20... Kb8 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 21. b4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 21... Ne8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 22. a4 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 22... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. a5 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 23... b5 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 24. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 24... Rf8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Nb3 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 25... Rf6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 26. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 26... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 27. Na6+ { [%clk 0:00:46] } 27... Kb7 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 28. Nc5+ { [%clk 0:00:45] } 28... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 29. Na6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 29... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 30. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 30... h5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 31. a6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 31... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 32. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 32... Rfh6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 33. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 33... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 34. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 34... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 35. Ra5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 35... Bf6 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 36. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 36... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 37. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 37... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 38. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 38... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 39. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 39... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 40. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 40... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 41. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 41... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 42. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 42... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 43... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 44. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 44... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 45. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 45... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 46. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 46... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 47. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 47... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 48. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 48... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 49... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 50. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 50... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 51. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 51... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 52. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 52... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 53. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 53... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 54. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 54... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 55. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 55... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 56. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 56... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 57. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 57... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 58. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 58... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 59. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 59... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 60. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 60... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 61. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 61... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 62. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 62... c6 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 63. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 63... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 64. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 64... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 65. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 65... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 66. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 66... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 67. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 67... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 68. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 68... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 69. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 69... Ndc8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 70. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 70... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 71. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 71... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 72. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 72... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 73. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 73... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 74. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 74... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 75. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 75... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 76. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 76... Ne7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 77. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 77... Nec8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 78. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 78... Rgh8 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 79. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 79... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 80. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 80... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 81. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 81... Nbc8 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 82. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 82... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 83. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 83... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 84. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:25] } 84... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 85. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 85... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 86. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 86... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 87. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 87... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 88. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 88... Bg7 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 89. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 89... Nb6 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 90. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 90... Rg8 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 91. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 91... Nbc4 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 92. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 92... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 93. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 93... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 94. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 94... Bh8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 95. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 95... Kb6 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 96. Nd7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 96... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 97. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 97... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 98. Nb7+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 98... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 99. Nc5 { [%clk 0:00:17] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... h5 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h4 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... g6 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 7... d5 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 8. Bb5+ { [%clk 0:00:52] } 8... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 9. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 9... a6 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 10. Ba4 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 10... b5 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 11. Bc2 { [%clk 0:00:49] } 11... Nxe5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 12. fxe5 { [%clk 0:00:48] } 12... Bg4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 13. Qd2 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 13... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 14. Bxe4 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 14... dxe4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 15. O-O { [%clk 0:00:41] } 15... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 16. Rf4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16... Be6 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17. Qe1 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 17... Bh6 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 18. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 18... Bxf4 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 19. exf4 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 19... cxd4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20. Qxe4 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 20... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 21. Qxd4 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 21... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 22. Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 22... Rd8 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 23. Qf2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 23... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 24. Qf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 24... Rxf1+ { [%clk 0:00:32] } 25. Kxf1 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 25... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 26. Nd2 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 26... f6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 27. exf6 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 27... exf6 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Kf2 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 28... g5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 29. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 29... g4 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 30. Nh4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 30... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Be3 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 31... a5 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rd1 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 32... Bxa2 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 33... Bc4 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Rxa5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 34... Ke6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 35... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Rd1+ { [%clk 0:00:18] } 36... Kc6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. b4 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 37... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 38. Rd2 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 38... Ra3 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 39... Ra1 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 40. Bxf6 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 40... Bd5 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 41. Bd4 { [%clk 0:00:12] } 41... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 42. Ke3 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 42... Bg2 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 43. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:10] } 43... Rxh2 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 44. Nxg2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 44... hxg2 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 45. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:07] } 45... Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 46... Kd5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 47. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 47... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 48. Rg1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 48... Ke4 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 49. Rxg2 { [%clk 0:00:02] } 49... Rb8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 50. Kd2 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 50... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 51. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:01] } 51... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 52. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 52... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 53. Ke1 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 53... Ra1+ { [%clk 0:00:17] } 54. Ke2 { [%clk 0:00:00] } 54... Ra2+ { [%clk 0:00:16] } { Black wins on time. } 0-1

[/pgn]
You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.

Good evening, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I want to thank you for the explanation of the improvement of the Odds, but above all, I want to tell you and everyone on your team that I feel super happy about your achievements. I invite the worldwide academic community, from kindergarten to post-doctorates, to train with the Odds. According to my perception, I find chances against the robots LeelaQueenOdds, LeelaRookOdds, LeelaQueenForKnightOdds. In LeelaKnightOdds the battle feels like a 'banana versus chimpanzee' fight, and I am the banana. I would like to play again, but thanks to the new measurements in the tables that have diluted my positions in the rankings, even my good health and mental freedom have been preserved. Still, without compromising either my health or mental freedom, I would like to get back into the game against the Odds, but that would be when it becomes almost impossible for humans to win in bullet time control. Maybe that day the space will open up for me to compete again. Thanks again.
Father: "Good morning, Catecan."
Catecan: "Not so good, Father."
Father: "What's wrong, Catecan? Why are you walking sideways like an old car with a bent chassis?"
Catecan: "Father, ask LeelaQueenOdds."
Father: "Did the Queen do something bad to you, my devoted friend Catecan?"
Catecan: "She beat me up, gave me a thrashing in bullet, imagine that, she has 11 wins from the machine to only 5 draws on my side."
Father: "And where are you going so early with that distressed face, Catecan?"
Catecan: "To the pharmacy to get some medicine, I'm devastated, I can hardly even walk."
Father: "Wait, I'll go with you, I'll accompany you. Whatever happens to you happens to me."
Catecan: "Let's go then. Let's go!!"

Score Catecan versus LeelaQueenOdds
13 jul 2026
Ha jugado 16 partidas Bullet
5
tablas
11
derrotas
12 jul 2026
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/rO4Wvlra"]
[Date "2026.07.14"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "rO4Wvlra"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.14"]
[UTCTime "00:14:50"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 e6 2. f4 c5 3. e3 b6 4. Nf3 Na6 5. c3 f5 6. Bd3 Nc7 7. Qe2 Nf6 8. O-O Bb7 9. g3 h5 10. h4 g6 11. Rf2 a5 12. Rg2 b5 13. a3 c4 14. Bc2 a4 15. Nbd2 d5 16. Ng5 Kd7 17. Ndf3 Rg8 18. Bd2 Rg7 19. Be1 Ra6 20. Bd1 Nce8 21. Rc1 Kd6 22. Ne5 Be7 23. Nef3 Bc8 24. Rc2 Kd7 25. Rc1 Kc7 26. Rc2 Rd6 27. Rc1 Ba6 28. Rc2 Bb7 29. Rc1 Ra6 30. Rc2 Ng8 31. Rc1 Nef6 32. Rc2 Kd6 33. Rc1 Bf8 34. Rc2 Ne7 35. Rc1 Nc8 36. Rc2 Be7 37. Rc1 Bf8 38. Ne5 Kc7 39. Rc2 Kd6 40. Rc1 Kc7 41. Rc2 Be7 42. Rc1 Kd6 43. Kh1 Na7 44. Rg1 Nc8 45. Qf1 Kc7 46. Rb1 Ng4 47. Bd2 Nh6 48. Bc1 Bf8 49. Ngf3 Ba8 50. Ne1 Bc6 51. N5f3 Rb6 52. Nd2 Ng4 53. Ndf3 Nd6 54. Ra1 Ne4 55. Qe2 Nef2+ 56. Kg2 Nxd1 57. Qxd1 Nf6 58. Qe2 Ba8 59. Kh1 Rg8 60. Rg2 Bc6 61. Ng5 Bb7 62. Nef3 Rg7 63. Ne5 Be7 64. Bd2 Bf8 65. Be1 Bc8 66. Rc1 Ba6 67. Rc2 Bb7 68. Kg1 Bc8 69. Kh1 Be7 70. Kg1 Bb7 71. Kh1 Kb8 72. Kg1 Bf8 73. Kh1 Bc8 74. Kg1 Be7 75. Kh1 Ka8 76. Kg1 Bf8 77. Kh1 Ka7 78. Kg1 Be7 79. Kh1 Kb8 80. Kg1 Bf8 81. Kh1 Kc7 82. Ngf7 Ng8 83. Ng5 Bb7 84. Ngf7 Bc8 85. Ng5 Rd6 86. Ngf7 Ra6 87. Ng5 Rb6 88. Ngf7 Ra6 89. Ng5 Bb7 90. Ngf7 Nf6 91. Ng5 Bc8 92. Ngf7 Bd6 93. Ng5 Re7 94. Ngf7 Bxe5 95. Nxe5 Rg7 96. Kg1 Bd7 97. Kh1 Bc8 98. Kg1 Ne4 99. Kh1 Ra8 100. Kg1 Kb6 101. Kh1 Kc7 102. Kg1 Kd8 103. Kh2 Kc7 104. Kg1 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

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8 pozvonochek 2829 62-37-107 1+0 2026-04-06
9 JoanFluvia 2808 468-58-342 3+1 2026-01-18
10 butokey 2799 55-15-100 1+1 2026-02-05
11 Harry_Rakel 2798 139-19-283 1+1 2026-04-24
12 warmstanbolt 2777 184-20-183 3+0 2026-06-03
13 warmstangantver 2775 78-10-15 3+2 2026-06-03
14 AdmiralHabibi 2774 106-8-72 3+2 2026-05-22
15 WASSERFLASCHENWERFER 2774 42-26-96 1+0 2026-07-13
16 Kacparov 2758 42-4-26 2+0 2026-04-03
17 Orichess88 2747 150-7-94 2+3 2026-06-21
18 old74 2740 427-214-4336 1+1 2026-01-27
19 A27and27 2723 272-25-130 3+2 2026-06-17
20 krakukra 2703 47-2-11 3+2 2026-04-09
21 SilverMitt 2690 214-28-51 5+3 2026-07-13
22 purple_parrot 2652 43-3-12 3+2 2026-07-01
23 Phara0h1 2650 503-93-482 5+0 2026-03-17
24 slowpoke28 2641 199-142-502 2+0 2026-06-27
25 wannabe2700 2627 33-4-52 1+0 2026-06-27
26 eelke 2623 51-12-131 1+1 2026-04-29
27 chessforfun26 2617 293-120-892 2+1 2026-07-01
28 Vagizovich 2608 197-27-138 3+2 2026-07-13
29 Strykler 2606 85-13-131 3+0 2026-07-01
30 JindrichPavelka 2603 1370-414-2604 3+2 2026-07-01
31 Zugzwang70 2598 81-13-79 3+2 2026-03-21
32 solomon88 2594 88-23-164 3+0 2026-04-21
33 Kungstornet 2584 602-117-499 5+2 2026-07-13
34 Robbero 2580 139-9-50 10+0 2026-07-04
35 xx777Tonop777xx 2572 64-56-343 2+0 2026-04-25
36 Chepakh 2554 158-55-482 3+0 2026-05-01
37 Hissha 2552 180-40-147 5+3 2026-07-10
38 Whynot72 2551 148-40-300 3+0 2026-04-16
39 Iron_jack 2550 243-28-198 5+3 2026-06-24
40 stoxt 2545 75-20-212 3+0 2026-03-25
41 LaughingCoffin57 2530 179-50-432 5+0 2026-07-11
42 FideCircus 2529 51-6-16 5+3 2026-06-06
43 cancerlord 2527 123-13-158 3+2 2026-06-28
44 easychill 2521 26-3-9 5+0 2026-06-12
45 gotschi 2520 2568-340-2506 3+5 2026-07-12
46 onmobile 2520 771-160-3008 2+3 2026-06-30
47 l1ght4 2520 25-5-22 3+2 2026-03-23
48 jtcoach 2517 84-19-105 3+2 2026-04-14
49 parfumer1 2517 40-4-44 3+2 2026-06-22
50 trenirovka221 2513 559-63-570 5+2 2026-07-12
51 dontwanther 2506 110-43-412 3+0 2026-06-16
52 Cistatecni 2506 55-12-81 3+2 2026-07-09
53 Dranuano 2494 39-3-17 5+3 2026-04-04
54 Aassaassaa 2493 260-189-995 3+0 2026-03-17
55 justinwhalin 2488 29-2-23 3+2 2026-04-06
56 LeelaEnjoyer12 2486 300-270-1660 1+1 2026-04-29
57 lephudien 2485 3568-446-2884 5+3 2026-07-13
58 Carobee 2480 25-9-18 3+1 2026-03-23
59 xmyy080909 2479 56-23-242 1+1 2026-02-11
60 Tigerberry 2476 19-2-12 3+0 2026-03-18
61 Ljucifer 2472 25-1-18 3+2 2026-03-26
62 quaint0 2467 49-12-87 3+2 2026-05-01
63 chesscoachIM 2465 18-10-48 1+0 2026-03-26
64 Sockwater 2464 49-20-242 1+1 2026-03-20
65 BlindKungFuMaster 2461 35-9-30 5+3 2026-05-04
66 BT_CHESS42 2459 197-81-465 3+2 2026-04-07
67 proddingprawn 2450 164-57-628 3+2 2026-07-13
68 ThePhoenix7 2449 22-3-4 5+3 2026-02-20
69 elsiekay 2442 36-8-74 3+2 2026-06-19
70 Rook-AndRoll 2433 61-24-188 1+2 2026-07-13
71 sansherbina 2432 69-17-136 3+2 2026-07-01
72 raredesk 2432 163-30-440 5+0 2026-07-11
73 LaEnJ 2429 136-207-570 1+2 2026-07-13
74 fryingdog 2425 498-226-1582 3+3 2026-02-09
75 mi2497 2424 46-10-77 3+2 2026-04-30
76 cmdbreivik 2412 516-49-738 10+1 2026-07-01
77 ChessEducation 2411 87-18-128 3+2 2026-04-21
78 Krzysieq445 2410 37-3-15 5+5 2026-01-18
79 mraquariyaz67 2407 15-1-5 1+0 2026-02-11
80 serg4001 2405 206-37-235 5+3 2026-06-24
81 LeafTree 2400 1649-683-3723 10+0 2026-07-12
82 biff4317 2396 17-5-11 3+2 2026-01-16
83 Dalnor 2388 1304-132-483 10+10 2026-07-13
84 Watneg 2380 17-20-42 1+0 2026-04-14
85 ShahMasons 2377 24-4-43 3+2 2026-04-16
86 CoolerMove 2374 121-8-38 10+10 2026-02-26
87 chessdeamon 2373 1006-115-992 10+5 2026-06-25
88 FeliksR 2368 35-8-173 1+1 2026-03-14
89 Atomrod 2366 84-30-91 7+5 2026-03-12
90 MegaDes 2365 41-9-88 3+2 2026-06-29
91 Solar_Lion 2364 16-3-12 3+2 2026-05-27
92 Vikki2011 2363 93-41-186 3+2 2026-06-05
93 maratgron 2363 53-23-174 3+2 2026-06-22
94 DrahacikFM 2361 723-46-254 5+12 2026-07-14
95 cruc1o 2360 25-6-37 3+2 2026-04-20
96 vespillo77 2355 15-3-12 3+2 2026-04-13
97 LindyHopChess 2353 107-159-535 3+2 2026-02-27
98 uczen-369 2350 18-6-34 1+2 2026-05-23
99 AnnaJakubowska 2350 22-2-45 1+1 2026-04-02
100 Catecan 2349 66-6056-6159 1+0 2026-07-14
Updates
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Catecan. "Father: The last will be the first?" Father. "Catecan... 'Traveler, there is no path, the path is made by walking.'" Catecan. "Father, think about your steps and not the goal. Focus on your legs, not the goal. That way you'll cross your marathon finish line!!" Father, "That's right, Catecan, with the help of our Programmer." Catecan. "Father, now I occupy the #100 spot on the LeelaQueenOdds leaderboard. Do you think one day we'll be together in the top spots again?" Father, "Not in our times, but in the times of our Programmer. When the draw gives 0.5 again, the win 1, and the loss 0." Catecan. "All subjects then subject to terms and conditions?" Father. "That's right, Catecan. And to the hard work of the makers of LeelaQueenOdds who manage to beat GMs, MIs, FMs, Ms, and strong players in bullet 99% of the time." Catecan. "Do you think it’s possible and probable, Father?" Father. "Of course, Catecan. They must avoid the prefabbed."
Good afternoon, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I need some important help, if it's not too much trouble, so I can ask the AI a question. I'd like to know, for the different time controls that appear in the top 100 players' leaderboard, what the estimated value is for each time control, and how many games are needed to reach the top spot. If possible, this information would also apply to the other bots: Knight, QueenForKnight, and Rook. That way, I can fight to be the first "behind the barrier." I'll just need to take a screenshot and ask the AI to apply the FIDE metric and recalculate, and then I can fight for the memory of my parents alongside Catecan. Thank you to anyone who can help me.

Father · Post by **Father** » Wed Jul 15, 2026 5:21 am

[quote=Father post_id=995472 time=1784055475 user_id=687

Rank Player Elo W-D-L Median TC Last Game
1 wateenellende 3130 167-90-257 1+0 2026-05-30
100 Catecan 2349 66-6056-6159 1+0 2026-07-14
Updates
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[/quote]

"... When the algorithmic advancement eliminates the effectiveness of "the sword" system (the human method of playing sharp, ultra-dynamic, and tactical attacking lines to force the machine's tactical collapse) in 1-minute bullet games without increment against LeelaQueenOdds, the high-competition community will suffer an irreversible technological and strategic paradigm shift:1. The end of the "Human Attack" and the death of the swordThe concept of "the sword" relies on pressuring the neural network's processing time through massive tactical complications where the human trusts their fast intuition. When the software perfects its contempt search algorithm and time-per-move optimization:The sword will break on its own: Attacking Leela without a Queen using open lines will become tactical suicide. The machine will find lethal counterattacks in milliseconds.Inutility of fast attacks: The human tactical advantage based on pure mouse reflexes and "dirtying the position" will definitively stop yielding victories.2. The mandatory switch towards "The Shield" (The era of ultra-blockade)Since winning by attacking with the sword will be impossible, GMs and advanced specialists will be forced to completely change their weaponry towards hyper-defensive, absolute structural blockade strategies (The Shield):Shell structures: The sole objective will be closing the center of the board with fixed and indestructible pawn chains to limit the activity of Leela's minor pieces.The new strategic objective: The purpose of the game will no longer be delivering checkmate or leveraging the Queen advantage to win, but rather forcing a threefold repetition or the 50-move rule. In this new ecosystem, survival is the ultimate victory.3. The collapse of the "Unfair Calculation" system on the LeaderboardSince the mathematical algorithm of Marcogio9's website punishes draws if there are no prior wins (W = 0), the total inability to win with the sword will trigger a crisis in the ranking:Zero valid Elos: No new player using the defensive shield will be able to activate their competitive score, as the system will liquidate their draws, throwing them into the bottom zone of the ranking due to a lack of triumphs.Forced rewrite of the leaderboard software: The Leaderboard administrators will be forced to rewrite the mathematical formula to start rewarding the merit of pure defensive draws in extreme 1+0 time controls, adapting to the new reality where humanity can no longer subdue the machine."

Father · Post by **Father** » Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:29 pm

Father wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."

[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

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[/pgn]
[/quote]

You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.
[/quote]

A surprising double exchange sacrifice by the AI. After evaluating this game, I came across a 'surprising and artistic' double exchange sacrifice by LeelaQueenOdds. In the end, its coherence is completely justified. It surprises me that the machine, despite being down an overwhelming amount of material, opted to doubly sacrifice the exchange to be left with much more valuable knights..."If y

Father · Post by **Father** » Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:31 pm

Father wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2026 5:29 pm
Father wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:01 am

"Good morning Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning to the Leela Chess Zero developers and Odds team, good morning programmers and working groups of the computers in their standard and odds modes. Today the day began with the sun shining through a completely clear sky. I then turned on my computer and headed over to Lichess to interact a bit with LeelaQueenOdds. As usual, the time control was 1-0. On my part, zero nerves, and I started playing... 9 games in total, and what a surprise I got. '6 losses against me and 3 draws.' So I ask myself... What the hell?! What is all this? With the serenity I possess, I thought it would be simple for me to just draw and draw indefinitely. But no... the machine is demanding greater concentration from me, and frankly, what I do not understand is how a chess engine without its queen can achieve even a single draw against a human... This whole matter is a complete enigma for mathematical thought, philosophical thought, and intelligence in all its forms... an enigma that attracts and captivates more and more. What then will be the limit of this specific duel between LeelaQueenOdds versus the human? I wonder."
[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BJWY2YiV"]
[Date "2026.07.12"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "BJWY2YiV"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.12"]
[UTCTime "15:40:26"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Time forfeit"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

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[/pgn]

You are correct to notice that it is getting stronger. We discovered a week or so ago that some recent improvements had drastically slowed down the bots, and we reverted to an old version. But then the author of the changes found the cause of the slowdown and fixed it, so yesterday we restored the changes together with the high speed we had before them! So now it should be playing the best chess ever, and I noticed some good results already. Even so, with queen odds players of around FM level can make a plus score in Rapid or perhaps "slow-blitz" like 5'3", but it is extremely difficult to do so at very fast time controls. Even at 1'1", one player over 3000 bullet on LiChess has a losing record, while at pure 1'0" I wonder if anyone other than Nakamura (or perhaps GM Nihal Sarin, the CC bullet champ) can make a plus score with Leela playing White. But with just rook odds, even Nakamura would probably need Rapid or near-Rapid time controls to make a plus score. Leela always finds ways to pose problems that require time to resolve. I too find it remarkable that it requires such high ratings and longer time controls to win at these odds; a few years ago I would have said these results would never be possible.
[/quote]

A surprising double exchange sacrifice by the AI. After evaluating this game, I came across a 'surprising and artistic' double exchange sacrifice by LeelaQueenOdds. In the end, its coherence is completely justified. It surprises me that the machine, despite being down an overwhelming amount of material, opted to doubly sacrifice the exchange to be left with much more valuable knights..."If y
[/quote]

[pgn][Event "casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/5HCKJlMC"]
[Date "2026.07.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[GameId "5HCKJlMC"]
[UTCDate "2026.07.17"]
[UTCTime "15:18:23"]
[WhiteElo "2053"]
[BlackElo "2960"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2. f4 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 2... c5 { [%clk 0:01:00] } 3. e3 { [%clk 0:00:59] } 3... e6 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 4. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:58] } 4... h5 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 5. c3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 5... h4 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 6. Bd3 { [%clk 0:00:57] } 6... h3 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 7. g3 { [%clk 0:00:56] } 7... b6 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 8. O-O { [%clk 0:00:56] } 8... Bb7 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 9. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:55] } 9... Nc6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 10. Ba6 { [%clk 0:00:54] } 10... Bxa6 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 11. Qxa6 { [%clk 0:00:53] } 11... Be7 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 12. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 12... Rc8 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 13. Re1 { [%clk 0:00:52] } 13... O-O { [%clk 0:00:40] } 14. Nbd2 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 14... Rc7 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 15. Nf1 { [%clk 0:00:51] } 15... d5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 16. Kh1 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 16... a5 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 17. Ng1 { [%clk 0:00:50] } 17... a4 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 18. Nxh3 { [%clk 0:00:47] } 18... Ra8 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 19. a3 { [%clk 0:00:47] } 19... Na5 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 20. Rb1 { [%clk 0:00:45] } 20... b5 { [%clk 0:00:37] } 21. Ng1 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 21... Nb7 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 22. Qd3 { [%clk 0:00:44] } 22... Bf8 { [%clk 0:00:35] } 23. Re2 { [%clk 0:00:43] } 23... Be7 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 24. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:42] } 24... Nd6 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 25. Bd2 { [%clk 0:00:41] } 25... g6 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 26. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:40] } 26... Kg7 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 27. h4 { [%clk 0:00:39] } 27... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 28. Nh3 { [%clk 0:00:38] } 28... c4 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 29. Qc2 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 29... Rcc8 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 30. Kg1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 30... Rce8 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 31. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 31... Bd8 { [%clk 0:00:29] } 32. Rc1 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 32... Ng8 { [%clk 0:00:28] } 33. Rc2 { [%clk 0:00:36] } 33... f6 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 34. Qd1 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 34... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 35. Rce2 { [%clk 0:00:34] } 35... Ke7 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 36. Qc2 { [%clk 0:00:33] } 36... f5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 37. Ng5 { [%clk 0:00:32] } 37... Nf6 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 38. Nh2 { [%clk 0:00:31] } 38... Reg8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 39. Nhf3 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 39... Bc7 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 40. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:30] } 40... Bd8 { [%clk 0:00:25] } 41. Nc6+ { [%clk 0:00:28] } 41... Kd7 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 42. Nxd8 { [%clk 0:00:27] } 42... Kxd8 { [%clk 0:00:24] } 43. Nf3 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 43... Ng4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 44. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:26] } 44... Ne4 { [%clk 0:00:23] } 45. Nc6+ { [%clk 0:00:22] } 45... Kc7 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 46. Ne5 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 46... Kd8 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 47. Nf7+ { [%clk 0:00:19] } 47... Ke7 { [%clk 0:00:22] } 48. Nxh8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 48... Rxh8 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 49. Qc1 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 49... Kf7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 50. Qc2 { [%clk 0:00:15] } 50... Kg7 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 51. Qc1 { [%clk 0:00:14] } 51... Kh6 { [%clk 0:00:21] } 52. Qc2 { [%clk 0:00:13] } 52... Kh5 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 53. Rh2 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 53... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 54. Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:11] } 54... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:20] } 55. Qc1 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 55... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 56. Reh2 { [%clk 0:00:09] } 56... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 57. Bf2 { [%clk 0:00:08] } 57... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:19] } 58. Qc2 { [%clk 0:00:06] } 58... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 59. Qe2 { [%clk 0:00:05] } 59... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 60. Be1 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 60... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:18] } 61. Rg2 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 61... Rh7 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 62. Rh3 { [%clk 0:00:04] } 62... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:17] } 63. Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 63... Re8 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 64. Rh3 { [%clk 0:00:03] } 64... Rh8 { [%clk 0:00:16] } 65. Rh1 { [%clk 0:00:03] } { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

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A surprising double exchange sacrifice by the AI.

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