Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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CornfedForever wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:07 pm Graham can defend himself of course, but facts are facts.

David unfortunately offered advice when Magnus was ‘stuck’…Magnus asked “How?”…
But this is a completely different story. Fine with me if people want to argue that Carlsen should be banned for life, but it has nothing to do with the alleged engine cheating by Niemann and the wider perceived problem of engine cheating.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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syzygy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:33 pm
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:07 pm Graham can defend himself of course, but facts are facts.

David unfortunately offered advice when Magnus was ‘stuck’…Magnus asked “How?”…
But this is a completely different story. Fine with me if people want to argue that Carlsen should be banned for life, but it has nothing to do with the alleged engine cheating by Niemann and the wider perceived problem of engine cheating.
I don't want to argue about bans for anybody.

I was just pointing out that Carlsen has cheated at least once as well.

I detest cheating.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Alexander Schmidt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:19 pm
dkappe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:32 pm Getting unasked help is one thing, accepting it is another. It was cheating, even if the cheaters chuckled about it afterwards.
He made a mistake, that's right. Comparing this with intentional cheating is still ridiculous.
Intentional? Why do you have a bunch of titled players watching you play a money online tournament and kibitzing? Magnus certainly isn’t the only to do this. Seems it’s pretty commonplace in chess streaming. It’s certainly not “unintentional.”

Anyhow, whether intentional or not, cheating is cheating. Ridiculous are those who rationalize a difference.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Ridiculous are those who rationalize a difference.
Could be worse... I hear there are some people who can't discern anything.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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jhellis3 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:49 pm
Ridiculous are those who rationalize a difference.
Could be worse... I hear there are some people who can't discern anything.
The man who mistook a grandmaster for a hat?
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Maybe.... who knows?
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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syzygy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:33 pm
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:07 pm Graham can defend himself of course, but facts are facts.

David unfortunately offered advice when Magnus was ‘stuck’…Magnus asked “How?”…
But this is a completely different story. Fine with me if people want to argue that Carlsen should be banned for life....
Serious...did anybody say that? I don't think so....certainly don't recall anyone unless it was one of the 'Hans Cheerleaders' (each side has them). Pay no attention to cheerleaders from any side. They are just 'furniture'.
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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dkappe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:58 pm
jhellis3 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:49 pm
Ridiculous are those who rationalize a difference.
Could be worse... I hear there are some people who can't discern anything.
The man who mistook a grandmaster for a hat?

(John) Fedorowicz? for a Fedora? 8-)
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Re: Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

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Damir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:39 pm Is this the chess cheating device ?

It Seems To Me That is just The Type Of Cheating Device We Are Looking For Called "Chess Talisman Zero System (Engine)" Seems The Youtube & Web site were supposedly Shut Down Recently! Interestingly Most of The Twitter Chat Comments were in TURKISH.... 8-) :wink:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments ... an_zero_a/

http://web.archive.org/web/202202011556 ... isman.html
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