World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "41"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 Bg7 14. Rd5 Qe7
15. Qg3 Rg8 16. Qf4 fxe4 17. Nxe4 f5 18. Nxd6+ Kf8 19. Nxc8 Rxc8 20. Kb1 Qe1+
21. Nc1 *

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Anand is going for the fight Gerold!
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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swami wrote:why the Kb1?? c3 would have been better.

Qe1+ and Black will have some initiative.




Anand,V - Kramnik,V, WCC2008 Bonn 2008
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Analysis by bright-0.3a:

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20...Qe1+ 21.Nc1 Qb4 22.Qd6+ Qxd6 23.Rxd6 Be5 24.Rd7 Rc7 25.Rd5 Re7 26.c3 Rg4 27.Nb3 Re4 
  +/=  (0.30)   Depth: 12/40   00:00:00  2781kN
20...Qe1+ 21.Nc1 Qb4 22.Nd3 Qxf4 23.Nxf4 Re8 24.Nd3 f4 25.Rf5 Bh6 26.h3 Rg3 27.c4 Nd4 
  +/=  (0.50)   Depth: 13/40   00:00:03  11009kN
20...Qe1+ 21.Nc1 Qb4 22.Qxb4+ Nxb4 23.Rd7 Nxc2 24.Bd3 Ne3 25.Re1 Bh6 26.g3 b5 27.Nb3 Kg7 28.Nd4 Rc5 
  +/=  (0.48)   Depth: 14/40   00:00:09  29467kN
20...Qe1+ 21.Nc1 Qb4 22.Qxb4+ Nxb4 23.Rd7 Nxc2 24.Rxb7 Ne3 25.g3 f4 26.Bxa6 f3 27.Re1 Bd4 28.Rd7 f2 
  +/=  (0.50)   Depth: 15/45   00:00:20  63657kN
20. Kb1 Qe1+ 21. Nc1 Qb4 22. Qxb4+ Nxb4 23. Rd7 Rxc2 24. Nd3 Rd2 25. Rd8+ Ke7 26. Rxg8 Rd1+ 27. Nc1 Bh6 28. Re8+ Kxe8 29. Bb5+ axb5 30. Rxd1 +--

It's trappy.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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how about 21... Ne7 does he really want to take the queens off the board?
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Rybka 3 @ 20 ply has it:

-0.40 Qe1b4 Nc1d3
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Pressie wrote:Rybka 3 @ 20 ply has it:

-0.40 Qe1b4 Nc1d3
From ChessOK:
21... Qb4 22. Qd6+ Qxd6 23. Rxd6 Be5 24. Rh6 Kg7 25. Rh3 Rybka3_8cpu (0:06.33)+0.55|d20
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "43"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 Bg7 14. Rd5 Qe7
15. Qg3 Rg8 16. Qf4 fxe4 17. Nxe4 f5 18. Nxd6+ Kf8 19. Nxc8 Rxc8 20. Kb1 Qe1+
21. Nc1 Ne7 22. Qd2 *

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "46"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 Bg7 14. Rd5 Qe7
15. Qg3 Rg8 16. Qf4 fxe4 17. Nxe4 f5 18. Nxd6+ Kf8 19. Nxc8 Rxc8 20. Kb1 Qe1+
21. Nc1 Ne7 22. Qd2 Qxd2 23. Rxd2 Bh6 *

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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Hart wrote:how about 21... Ne7 does he really want to take the queens off the board?
..Ne7 Qd2! is good.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "47"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 Bg7 14. Rd5 Qe7
15. Qg3 Rg8 16. Qf4 fxe4 17. Nxe4 f5 18. Nxd6+ Kf8 19. Nxc8 Rxc8 20. Kb1 Qe1+
21. Nc1 Ne7 22. Qd2 Qxd2 23. Rxd2 Bh6 24. Rf2 *

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 11)

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AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "46"]
[EventDate "2008.10.29"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Bxf6
gxf6 9. f5 Qc5 10. Qd3 Nc6 11. Nb3 Qe5 12. O-O-O exf5 13. Qe3 Bg7 14. Rd5 Qe7
15. Qg3 Rg8 16. Qf4 fxe4 17. Nxe4 f5 18. Nxd6+ Kf8 19. Nxc8 Rxc8 20. Kb1 Qe1+
21. Nc1 Ne7 22. Qd2 Qxd2 23. Rxd2 Bh6 *

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White may have a small advantage but I think it's a draw.

Kramnik loses of course with a draw so I'm not sure why he chose this particular line?
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