No books or tablebases and normal computor

[Jaimes Conda]

Test without opening books, tablebases and on a normal home computer with normal amount of RAM (who really has an 8 core computer at home?). Thats the only way to test ENGINE vs. ENGINE. To avoid duplicate games 3 to 5 moves deep book could be used.

Wearing a bullit proff vest and diving for cover.......Jaimes

[geots]

Test without opening books, tablebases and on a normal home computer with normal amount of RAM (who really has an 8 core computer at home?). Thats the only way to test ENGINE vs. ENGINE. To avoid duplicate games 3 to 5 moves deep book could be used.

Wearing a bullit proff vest and diving for cover.......Jaimes

You dont have to wear a bullet proof vest on my account. I have been saying this since i first came on the computer chess scene- but to deaf ears. You have hit the proverbial nail on its proverbial head. Tho TB are ok- i would limit them to a max of 5 man. No exceptions. The only difference between me and you on this issue is i couldnt care less what anyone thinks of my opinion.


Dont Go Out Alone Regards,

[Bill Rogers]

I agree with you guys. Who give a damn if IBM built a special computer to play chess. I and very few other people in the world could ever afford one. I am interested in what I can run on my home machine, not quads, or octals machines, although I do now own a dual on a laptop only because my old laptop developed a short in the electrical connection.
Bill

[Graham Banks]

I agree with you guys. Who give a damn if IBM built a special computer to play chess. I and very few other people in the world could ever afford one. I am interested in what I can run on my home machine, not quads, or octals machines, although I do now own a dual on a laptop only because my old laptop developed a short in the electrical connection.
Bill

Most of us only have our home computers available to indulge in our hobby.

However, as in any hobby, there are those who go to great expense to have the best available equipment to stay ahead of others. That's just the way it is and fair enough too.
If was wealthy enough, I would possibly be one of them!

[Sylwy]

Test without opening books, tablebases and on a normal home computer with normal amount of RAM (who really has an 8 core computer at home?). Thats the only way to test ENGINE vs. ENGINE. To avoid duplicate games 3 to 5 moves deep book could be used.

Wearing a bullit proff vest and diving for cover.......Jaimes

Hi !

Testing engines vs. engines without books & tablebases is not honest !
Why ?
Because some engines (Spike......) have a book built-up into executable.Some engines (Ktulu......) have bitbases built-up into executable.

To use normal hardware for some race engines (Zappa Mexico & not only) is something like to use a race horse to go for a walk in park.

Regards,
Sylwy

[Bill Rogers]

About three year ago now I was watching a tournement and watched in disbelief as one engine checkmated another without ever leaving its book.
To this day I do not know if the engine can really play chess or not or whether if it can play chess it is very strong as its chess playing slgorthym was never brought into play.
While I don't deny that opening books are not only helpful I do think in the interest of chess that the depth of the opening books should be limited.
I mean the title alone speaks volumns, ie. "opening books". That does not say "mid game books" or "end game books", although endgame table bases are used and accepted now, but those are seperate from opening books.
Bill