Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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Vinvin
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Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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The new monster tested : http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3414&p=4

It's still some problems with some applications that doesn't use more than16 threads, but they should be corrected soon ...
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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Vinvin wrote:The new monster tested : http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3414&p=4

It's still some problems with some applications that doesn't use more than16 threads, but they should be corrected soon ...
Hi, the article states it has six cores not twenty-four can you help me to understand, Thank you.

Sean
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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Sean Evans wrote:
Vinvin wrote:The new monster tested : http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3414&p=4

It's still some problems with some applications that doesn't use more than16 threads, but they should be corrected soon ...
Hi, the article states it has six cores not twenty-four can you help me to understand, Thank you.

Sean
4 slots with one 6-core processor per slot...
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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bob wrote:
Sean Evans wrote:
Vinvin wrote:The new monster tested : http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3414&p=4

It's still some problems with some applications that doesn't use more than16 threads, but they should be corrected soon ...
Hi, the article states it has six cores not twenty-four can you help me to understand, Thank you.

Sean
4 slots with one 6-core processor per slot...
So a motherboard that has for slots that can hold four 6-core CPUs, got it.

I think Windows Vista 64 recognizes each CPU individually and can handle up to 2-CPUs. So under Windows the best you can attain is 12-cores, still quite powerful, but far short of 24-cores.

Cordially,

Sean
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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Sean Evans wrote:
bob wrote:
Sean Evans wrote:
Vinvin wrote:The new monster tested : http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3414&p=4

It's still some problems with some applications that doesn't use more than16 threads, but they should be corrected soon ...
Hi, the article states it has six cores not twenty-four can you help me to understand, Thank you.

Sean
4 slots with one 6-core processor per slot...
So a motherboard that has for slots that can hold four 6-core CPUs, got it.

I think Windows Vista 64 recognizes each CPU individually and can handle up to 2-CPUs. So under Windows the best you can attain is 12-cores, still quite powerful, but far short of 24-cores.

Cordially,

Sean
Use Windows 2008. For some versions, good up to 64 cpus:
http://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/sa ... plp_ch.htm

At 6 cores each that would give 384 threads of execution. But 8 cores will be out soon, giving 512 threads of execution. I guess that most SMP chess programs would need a special compile to handle that.
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

Post by frankp »

Presumably this is a Windows restriction rather than applying generally to other (more capable) operating systems.
plattyaj

Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

Post by plattyaj »

Sean Evans wrote:So a motherboard that has for slots that can hold four 6-core CPUs, got it.

I think Windows Vista 64 recognizes each CPU individually and can handle up to 2-CPUs. So under Windows the best you can attain is 12-cores, still quite powerful, but far short of 24-cores.

Cordially,

Sean
Hmm, never seen that restriction mentioned anywhere. Vista 64 has memory limits depending on which exact version you are using (Home, Business, etc) but I don't see anything about cpus and/or cores though I assume there are some limits somewhere.

Andy.
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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plattyaj wrote:
Sean Evans wrote:So a motherboard that has for slots that can hold four 6-core CPUs, got it.

I think Windows Vista 64 recognizes each CPU individually and can handle up to 2-CPUs. So under Windows the best you can attain is 12-cores, still quite powerful, but far short of 24-cores.

Cordially,

Sean
Hmm, never seen that restriction mentioned anywhere. Vista 64 has memory limits depending on which exact version you are using (Home, Business, etc) but I don't see anything about cpus and/or cores though I assume there are some limits somewhere.

Andy.
Sean is right. Vista (depending on version) limits you to 1 or 2 CPUs. If you want more than that, you need to get Windows Server 2008, which (depending on version) supports up to 64 CPUs.

Or just get a Linux version that does the same thing for a lot less cash.
plattyaj

Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

Post by plattyaj »

Dann Corbit wrote:Sean is right. Vista (depending on version) limits you to 1 or 2 CPUs. If you want more than that, you need to get Windows Server 2008, which (depending on version) supports up to 64 CPUs.

Or just get a Linux version that does the same thing for a lot less cash.
Now I find it - buried in the license agreement (of course, what an obvious place to put a restriction like that). Actually Microsoft's definition is a little more generous than certain vendors (IBM) in that it doesn't treat each core as a separate CPU.

Thanks for the info.

Andy.
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Re: Dunnington, 24 Cores in Action

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Looks like a half-baked hybrid...

Why not 29 Cores? :P