fools that bought dEEP fritz 10

[Nimzovik]

IS NOT FRITZ 1 STRONGER??

[Jim Walker]

Why don't you answer your own question and then follow up with proof of your answer?

[Nimzovik]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

[Dann Corbit]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

Deep Fritz 11 is the 3rd strongest program in the world under the following conditions:
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

At around 100 dollars, I would call it a bargain. The only reason I have not bought a copy is that it does not have a UCI interface.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

Deep Fritz 11 is the 3rd strongest program in the world under the following conditions:
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

At around 100 dollars, I would call it a bargain. The only reason I have not bought a copy is that it does not have a UCI interface.

You mean because the engine itself is not UCI,because Deep Fritz 11 GUI has a UCI interface

[Dann Corbit]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

Deep Fritz 11 is the 3rd strongest program in the world under the following conditions:
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

At around 100 dollars, I would call it a bargain. The only reason I have not bought a copy is that it does not have a UCI interface.

You mean because the engine itself is not UCI,because Deep Fritz 11 GUI has a UCI interface

Yes, when I say "it" does not have a UCI interface, the pronoun "it" refers to Deep Fritz 11, and not the Fritz GUI.

[Dirt]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

Deep Fritz 11 is the 3rd strongest program in the world under the following conditions:
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

At around 100 dollars, I would call it a bargain. The only reason I have not bought a copy is that it does not have a UCI interface.

I think his net comment was that Fritz 11 is better than Deep Fritz 10, so Deep Fritz 10 was a poor value.

[Dann Corbit]

Sorry I meant to say Fritz 11

Deep Fritz 11 is the 3rd strongest program in the world under the following conditions:
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

At around 100 dollars, I would call it a bargain. The only reason I have not bought a copy is that it does not have a UCI interface.

I think his net comment was that Fritz 11 is better than Deep Fritz 10, so Deep Fritz 10 was a poor value.

By that same logic, Rybka 2 was a poor value.
Rybka 3 64-bit 4CPU 3224 +19 -19 76.5% -186.9 36.9% 1081
Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 2CPU 3087 +17 -16 71.8% -144.6 42.0% 1275

Further --> Deep Fritz 10.1 is stronger than other truly excellent 4 CPU programs:
Deep Fritz 10.1 4CPU 2990 +17 -17 51.8% -12.4 39.8% 1113
Hiarcs 11.1 4CPU 2983 +17 -17 52.5% -17.8 44.0% 1120
Glaurung 2.1 64-bit 4CPU 2974 +19 -19 41.9% +56.2 41.7% 892
Bright 0.3d 4CPU 2971 +19 -19 45.4% +29.4 44.1% 885
Naum 2.1 64-bit 4CPU 2971 +21 -21 53.8% -23.6 44.7% 700

To me, Deep Fritz 10.1 is also an example of excellence.

If you just want something really strong and you don't want to spend money, then get the Free Rybka version and be done with it. But if you enjoy variance and seeing different ideas and watching contests between great chess masters who will slave for you at any hour of the day or night, then cough up a few bucks and enjoy the product of some poor programmer's long and arduous efforts.

If you had to pay a programmer in dollars per hour at the standard going rates to write you a top quality chess engine from scratch, it would cost as much as your house. The free engines like Bright and Glaurung are miraculous gifts that should make everyone's jaw drop.

And to sell these excellent commercial engines at the prices they go for should make all of us stare in awe and wonder.

I guess that one person in 10,000 realized what a stupendous thing it is.

[Dirt]

To me, Deep Fritz 10.1 is also an example of excellence.

I was just trying to figure out what his post meant. I think Deep Fritz 10 and Fritz 11 were being sold at the same time for a while, with DF 10 costing more (I could be wrong about this). Since I've seen 1 cpu Fritz 11 rated higher than 2 cpu DF 10, then those who had a dual cpu system and bought DF 10 at that time might have been a poor choice.

[Uri Blass]

IS NOT FRITZ 1 STRONGER??

Who cares about strength of Fritz?
both versions are weaker than the free rybka so the only question that may be interesting for buyers is which version is less similiar to rybka
and I read that Fritz10 is less similiar to rybka so in analysis it may be better additional tool to rybka relative to Fritz11.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... 4-bit_4CPU

Deep Fritz10 4 cpu could beat rybka3 4 cpu 4 times out of 30 games
Deep Fritz11 could beat rybka3 only 3 times out of 40 games

It seems that Deep Fritz10 is simply the better program if the target is to win and not to draw against rybka3 and no owner of rybka is interested in
drawing against rybka because rybka can also do it.

I did not buy one of the latest Fritz but if I need to choose I will certainly choose Fritz10 and not Fritz11.

Uri