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Fruits

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I started to test some "fruits" for CEGT 40/20 (eng-eng, ponder off).
After round 10 we have following interim results:

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Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a 1CPU      5.5 - 4.5    +3/-2/=5    55.00%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           7.5 - 2.5    +6/-1/=3    75.00%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU     4.0 - 6.0    +3/-5/=2    40.00%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              6.0 - 4.0    +4/-2/=4    60.00%

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Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU     2200   5.5 - 4.5    +3/-2/=5    55.00%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   4.0 - 6.0    +2/-4/=4    40.00%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    xxxx   4.5 - 5.5    +2/-3/=5    45.00%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   5.5 - 4.5    +3/-2/=5    55.00%
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Re: Fruits after round 20

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I started to test some "fruits" for CEGT 40/20 (eng-eng, ponder off).
After round 20 we have following interim results:

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Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a 1CPU   10.5 - 9.5        52.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           12.5 - 7.5        62.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU     9.5 - 10.5        47.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              11.5 - 8.5        57.050%

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Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU     2200   9.5 - 10.5        47.50%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   9.0 - 11.0        45.00%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    xxxx   10.5 - 9.5        52.50%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   11.0 - 9.0        55.00%
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Re: Fruits after round 20

Post by Denis P. Mendoza »

Werner wrote:I started to test some "fruits" for CEGT 40/20 (eng-eng, ponder off).
After round 20 we have following interim results:

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Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a 1CPU   10.5 - 9.5        52.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           12.5 - 7.5        62.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU     9.5 - 10.5        47.50%
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              11.5 - 8.5        57.050%

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Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU     2200   9.5 - 10.5        47.50%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   9.0 - 11.0        45.00%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    xxxx   10.5 - 9.5        52.50%
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   11.0 - 9.0        55.00%
Thanks Werner. I see Jerry's new Toga is doing well.

But we have an issue when using 'beta19a' on quad-core. Shaun mentioned that it's using only around 25% cpu as quoted here:
it does not seem to use 4 threads (25% CPU on a quad) and does not play nicely with F11 GUI e.g. load errors, also if you use for analysis it seems to ignore the stop as the engine continues to think?
If you mind, could you verify this just get some third party opinion?

Thanks.

Denis

PS> I also made some small gauntlet for comparison:

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Toga143jdbeta19a

Rank   Engine   Score   To
1   TogaII143b19a    51.5/100   · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·   
2   SP-x64-Inert---Thinker54A   27.0/50   0=11010==1==0=01=1=11==1=00=110100=0=0=101=101=1=1   
3   Glaurung22_x64_ja    21.5/50   ==0==00000=0=1=00=1=011=00==110=0110110101==100==0   


100 games played / Tournament is finished

Tournament start: 2009.02.25, 06:09:13
Latest update: 2009.02.26, 21:59:40
Site/ Country: SUPERCHESS, United States
Level: Tournament 40/5
Hardware: Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2009 MHz with 1,920 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP 64 Bit Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 3790)
PGN-File: Toga143jdbeta19a.pgn
Table created with: Arena 1.99beta4
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Re: Fruits after round 20

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"If you mind, could you verify this just get some third party opinion? "

:cry:
Yes I can confirm this - and the engine crashes using more than 1CPU
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Re: Fruits after round 20

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Werner wrote:"If you mind, could you verify this just get some third party opinion? "

:cry:
Yes I can confirm this - and the engine crashes using more than 1CPU
both compiles:
Toga1.4.3JDbeta19a_C2D.exe from 21. feb and
TogaII143b19a.exe from Jerry (05. febr)
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Re: Fruits after round 40

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Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a 1CPU   22 - 18        55% 
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           24 - 16        60% 
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    19.5 - 20.5        48,75% 
Naum 3 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              24 -16        60% 

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Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU     2200   18 - 22        45% 
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   23 - 17        57,5% 
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    xxxx   24,5 - 15.5        61,25% 
Rybka 1.1.w32    2200 - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   21,5 - 18,5        53,75%
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Re: Fruits after round 40

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So combined:

Toga 40
Grape 33
Fruit 36
Cyclone 34,5

BTW where are latest Toga versions available?

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Re: Fruits after round 40

Post by Denis P. Mendoza »

Jouni wrote:So combined:

Toga 40
Grape 33
Fruit 36
Cyclone 34,5

BTW where are latest Toga versions available?

Jouni

http://www.computerchess.info/tdbb/phpBB3/index.php

You'll see some unofficial releases there. But all official releases are most likely be posted at CCRL or TDDB public forum. The latest development engines are still private. Jerry wants to release 'beta19a', but because of the mentioned problems >1 cpu it will be delayed.
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Re: Fruits after round 50

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2 Matches finished:

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Rybka 1.1 w32    2200 - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   26.5 - 23.5    +12/-9/=29    53.00%
Rybka 1.1 w32    2200 - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    2200   28.5 - 21.5    +16/-9/=25    57.00%
Rybka 1.1 w32    2200 - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   30.5 - 19.5    +19/-8/=23    61.00%
Rybka 1.1 w32    2200 - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU     2200   23.0 - 27.0    +13/-17/=20    46.00%

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Naum 3.0 w32 1CPU   - TogaII 1.4.3JD b19a 1CPU      27.5 - 22.5    +17/-12/=21    55.00%
Naum 3.0 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           29.0 - 21.0    +20/-12/=18    58.00%
Naum 3.0 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU     23.5 - 26.5    +13/-16/=21    47.00%
Naum 3.0 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              29.5 - 20.5    +17/-8/=25    59.00%
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now running Zappa Mexico II x64 1CPU and Deep Sjeng WC 2008 w32 1CPU against these 4 engines.
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Re: Fruits: next 100 games

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DeepSjeng WC2008 w32 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU             2200   25.5 - 24.5    +20/-19/=11    51.00%
DeepSjeng WC2008 w32 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU    2200   25.5 - 24.5    +18/-17/=15    51.00%
DeepSjeng WC2008 w32 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU          2200   22.5 - 27.5    +12/-17/=21    45.00%
DeepSjeng WC2008 w32 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a1C     2200   27.5 - 22.5    +18/-13/=19    55.00%

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Zappa Mexico II x64 1CPU   - Cyclone 3.4 1CPU              26.0 - 24.0    +12/-10/=28    52.00%
Zappa Mexico II x64 1CPU   - Fruit 2.3.5m p15 w32 1CPU     25.5 - 24.5    +12/-11/=27    51.00%
Zappa Mexico II x64 1CPU   - Grapefruit 1.0 1CPU           30.5 - 19.5    +20/-9/=21    61.00%
Zappa Mexico II x64 1CPU   - Toga II 1.4.3JDbeta19a1C      28.5 - 21.5    +20/-13/=17    57.00%
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