Ippolit 2nd release

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Ippolit 2nd release

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when can we expect the second release of Ippolit?

what is taking so long?

what upgrades can we expect?

will there be a speedup?

what is taking so long?

what bugs will be fixed?

will the price be reduced?

64 bit? smp? egtb? UCI?

will I be able to purchase from Chessbase?

what is taking so long?

I hope the second release is a little more organized than the first release.

will a tee shirt be offered with the program? maybe it could say on the front, "I won in reverse"

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Agreed!
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Re: Ippolit 2nd release

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Hi,

lol :lol:

You can also wait until Rybka 4 will be released...


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Rybka 4 will be out in about a month or so. It will be all that Ipollit is and much much more. It will be the chess engines hardcore users have been dreaming about, with lots of goodies yet not seen on any engine ... and it will have clean legal code with a REAL person not ashamed to admit he is the author. The only negative thing this time though (for hackers that is) is that it will have a heavy padlock on its code. Hopefully that will not be intrusive enough to hurt performance.
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M ANSARI wrote:Rybka 4 will be out in about a month or so. It will be all that Ipollit is and much much more. It will be the chess engines hardcore users have been dreaming about, with lots of goodies yet not seen on any engine ...
How do you know all that?
The only negative thing this time though (for hackers that is) is that it will have a heavy padlock on its code. Hopefully that will not be intrusive enough to hurt performance.
If this is the true(and unfortunately it won't be easy at all to find out as we would not have the unlocked version of R4 to compare) then i guess many people will not buy the program. I will be one of them.
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George Tsavdaris wrote:
M ANSARI wrote:Rybka 4 will be out in about a month or so. It will be all that Ipollit is and much much more. It will be the chess engines hardcore users have been dreaming about, with lots of goodies yet not seen on any engine ...
How do you know all that?
The only negative thing this time though (for hackers that is) is that it will have a heavy padlock on its code. Hopefully that will not be intrusive enough to hurt performance.
If this is the true(and unfortunately it won't be easy at all to find out as we would not have the unlocked version of R4 to compare) then i guess many people will not buy the program. I will be one of them.
There is no copy protection that can't be broken. All it does is hurt the legit users, not the thieves. I used to take great delight in doing this, just to see if I could. One can do wonders with a debugger, if he knows assembly language fairly well. :)

My only comment: I absolutely refuse to buy _any_ software that requires that I insert the CD every time I want to use the program (and I am not talking chess engines here since I don't buy/use commercial ones). On my laptop, I often have the CD/DVD drive removed to make room for an extra battery. I will not buy software that requires any sort of "dongle" (a device plugged into a printer/serial/usb port needed to "unlock" the software). If I found something I _really_ wanted, I would buy it and defeat the copy-protection to make it actually usable again. I would not give away copies, but I do refuse to deal with draconian copy-protection methodologies.
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bob wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:
M ANSARI wrote:Rybka 4 will be out in about a month or so. It will be all that Ipollit is and much much more. It will be the chess engines hardcore users have been dreaming about, with lots of goodies yet not seen on any engine ...
How do you know all that?
The only negative thing this time though (for hackers that is) is that it will have a heavy padlock on its code. Hopefully that will not be intrusive enough to hurt performance.
If this is the true(and unfortunately it won't be easy at all to find out as we would not have the unlocked version of R4 to compare) then i guess many people will not buy the program. I will be one of them.
There is no copy protection that can't be broken. All it does is hurt the legit users, not the thieves. I used to take great delight in doing this, just to see if I could. One can do wonders with a debugger, if he knows assembly language fairly well. :)

My only comment: I absolutely refuse to buy _any_ software that requires that I insert the CD every time I want to use the program (and I am not talking chess engines here since I don't buy/use commercial ones). On my laptop, I often have the CD/DVD drive removed to make room for an extra battery. I will not buy software that requires any sort of "dongle" (a device plugged into a printer/serial/usb port needed to "unlock" the software). If I found something I _really_ wanted, I would buy it and defeat the copy-protection to make it actually usable again. I would not give away copies, but I do refuse to deal with draconian copy-protection methodologies.
Bob? The uncorruptible Robert Hyaat hacking programs?? Now I find that hard to believe?
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Nobody said anything about dongles or CD/DVD's ... I agree that doesn't work and I would also not buy anything that requires that. I remember early Chessbase software where I had to put a stupid dongle ... total FAIL. Also the entire thing with requiring you to put a DVD or CD just to get the program to run is a total turn off. Fortunately now with CB products if you run another engine in the GUI you don't need to insert any DVD to get the engine to run.

What I meant is in actual coding of the software so that it would not be so easy for someone to decompile and steal the code. I am sure that there are ways to make things more difficult, with Rybka 3 it apparently was too easy as no steps were done to prevent that.
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bob wrote:
George Tsavdaris wrote:
M ANSARI wrote:Rybka 4 will be out in about a month or so. It will be all that Ipollit is and much much more. It will be the chess engines hardcore users have been dreaming about, with lots of goodies yet not seen on any engine ...
How do you know all that?
The only negative thing this time though (for hackers that is) is that it will have a heavy padlock on its code. Hopefully that will not be intrusive enough to hurt performance.
If this is the true(and unfortunately it won't be easy at all to find out as we would not have the unlocked version of R4 to compare) then i guess many people will not buy the program. I will be one of them.
There is no copy protection that can't be broken. All it does is hurt the legit users, not the thieves. I used to take great delight in doing this, just to see if I could. One can do wonders with a debugger, if he knows assembly language fairly well. :)

My only comment: I absolutely refuse to buy _any_ software that requires that I insert the CD every time I want to use the program (and I am not talking chess engines here since I don't buy/use commercial ones). On my laptop, I often have the CD/DVD drive removed to make room for an extra battery. I will not buy software that requires any sort of "dongle" (a device plugged into a printer/serial/usb port needed to "unlock" the software). If I found something I _really_ wanted, I would buy it and defeat the copy-protection to make it actually usable again. I would not give away copies, but I do refuse to deal with draconian copy-protection methodologies.
I didn't read inserting CDs or dongles mentioned anywhere. Furthermore, since Rybka is purchased and sold online, that might be quite difficult. I'm guessing something more along the lines of activation, but I am not in the know.
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Re: Ippolit 2nd release

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bigo wrote:
bob wrote:l. :)

My only comment: I absolutely refuse to buy _any_ software that requires that I insert the CD every time I want to use the program (and I am not talking chess engines here since I don't buy/use commercial ones). On my laptop, I often have the CD/DVD drive removed to make room for an extra battery. I will not buy software that requires any sort of "dongle" (a device plugged into a printer/serial/usb port needed to "unlock" the software). If I found something I _really_ wanted, I would buy it and defeat the copy-protection to make it actually usable again. I would not give away copies, but I do refuse to deal with draconian copy-protection methodologies.
Bob? The uncorruptible Robert Hyaat hacking programs?? Now I find that hard to believe?
It's not bad at all to do it if you don't give it to others that haven't bought the program.
And anyway he explicitly said that he would NOT give it to others so there's no more further discussion here.
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