Just ordered a Crucial C300 256GB ssd

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daniel71
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Just ordered a Crucial C300 256GB ssd

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Hi Everybody,
I just ordered this ssd drive (Crucial C300 256GB) after reading all the reviews and I considered this the best buy available right now. I will use this for the operating system, apps, and 100GB of endgame tablebases. Does anybody have any tips or suggestions using this in a laptop with a raid 0 setup with 2 7200rpm 500 GB harddrives and would the raid setup cause problems? This is my first ssd drive. Thanks Daniel
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daniel71 wrote:Hi Everybody,
I just ordered this ssd drive (Crucial C300 256GB) after reading all the reviews and I considered this the best buy available right now. I will use this for the operating system, apps, and 100GB of endgame tablebases. Does anybody have any tips or suggestions using this in a laptop with a raid 0 setup with 2 7200rpm 500 GB harddrives and would the raid setup cause problems? This is my first ssd drive. Thanks Daniel
I would never setup a raid 0 solution with an SSD and 7200 rpm drives. Why kill the performance of the SSD drives by using something slower with it?

I have two Corsair Storage Solutions X64 64GB Indilinx drives in my desktop and several USB/eSATA drives. The SSD drives are for my operating system and apps (tablebases as well), the eSATA/USB drives hold other data. They are lightning quick, and cold boot Windows 7 in roughly 16 seconds.

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Hi Peter,
I just want to run the ssd as a stand alone drive and have the other 2 harddrives in a raid 0 setup. The laptop has 3 harddrive bays but I don't want to run all 3 in raid 0. New to this running a raid system and wanting to make sure I can do what I plan for this to work. Thanks
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Hard to understand why you want to run a RAID 0 setup in a laptop. Why not get a small desktop for that. I hate to think how long your battery will last with 1 SSD running and 2 drives set in a RAID 0 array. You sound like you want performance and if so, a cheap desktop would be a much better bet as it would give you much more performance at a fraction of the price.
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I was hoping for information what window services to turn off or on and settings to use for ssd vs harddisk drives. I think this was the wrong forum to ask.
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M ANSARI wrote:Hard to understand why you want to run a RAID 0 setup in a laptop.
Agreed. You have no idea how hard I had to work to not elaborate further.
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daniel71 wrote:Hi Everybody,
I just ordered this ssd drive (Crucial C300 256GB) after reading all the reviews and I considered this the best buy available right now. I will use this for the operating system, apps, and 100GB of endgame tablebases. Does anybody have any tips or suggestions using this in a laptop with a raid 0 setup with 2 7200rpm 500 GB harddrives and would the raid setup cause problems? This is my first ssd drive. Thanks Daniel
I do not anything about that, but I bet that the Gaviota Tablebases with compression scheme 2 will fly in your system :-)

I think I am going to order a small SSD at least... you are tempting me.

Miguel
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michiguel wrote:
daniel71 wrote:Hi Everybody,
I just ordered this ssd drive (Crucial C300 256GB) after reading all the reviews and I considered this the best buy available right now. I will use this for the operating system, apps, and 100GB of endgame tablebases. Does anybody have any tips or suggestions using this in a laptop with a raid 0 setup with 2 7200rpm 500 GB harddrives and would the raid setup cause problems? This is my first ssd drive. Thanks Daniel
I do not anything about that, but I bet that the Gaviota Tablebases with compression scheme 2 will fly in your system :-)

I think I am going to order a small SSD at least... you are tempting me.

Miguel
It may give an answer to a critical question:

Do EGTB systems give an Elo increase on systems with solid state hard disks?

The reason that the question is important is that there is no evidence that I am aware of that shows measured Elo increase for any non-bitbase EGTB system on ordinary hard drives (generally, the outcome is Elo neutral).
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Dann Corbit wrote:
michiguel wrote:
daniel71 wrote:Hi Everybody,
I just ordered this ssd drive (Crucial C300 256GB) after reading all the reviews and I considered this the best buy available right now. I will use this for the operating system, apps, and 100GB of endgame tablebases. Does anybody have any tips or suggestions using this in a laptop with a raid 0 setup with 2 7200rpm 500 GB harddrives and would the raid setup cause problems? This is my first ssd drive. Thanks Daniel
I do not anything about that, but I bet that the Gaviota Tablebases with compression scheme 2 will fly in your system :-)

I think I am going to order a small SSD at least... you are tempting me.

Miguel
It may give an answer to a critical question:

Do EGTB systems give an Elo increase on systems with solid state hard disks?

The reason that the question is important is that there is no evidence that I am aware of that shows measured Elo increase for any non-bitbase EGTB system on ordinary hard drives (generally, the outcome is Elo neutral).
That is *THE* question!! and I want to find out. I have the strong feeling that there should be a measurable increase with the GTBs. In the past, some of these experiments have been run in conditions that there was a slowdown. I barely have any slowdown with the GTBs and it generally reaches deeper searches (because the tree gets pruned). With the new bitbase cache an a SSD, I guess that the slowdown should be nil and I could be probing in all the nodes.

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The elo question may not be so simple.
Assume a strong program vs a weak program.
Endgame may not be reached, so no improvement by table bases.
Using egtbs on slow disk may even hurt. So the way to go is placing egtbs in memory.
Here some results for crafty.

Crafty23.2 4_proc 64-bit egtb: no tablebases 60 sec
number right...................... 81
total nodes searched.............. 34279052590
average search depth.............. 16.6
nodes per second.................. 14110264
total time........................ 40:29

Crafty23.2 4_proc 64-bit egtb: 5 piece tablebases via NFS
connected by 100Mbit lan 60 sec
number right...................... 82
total nodes searched.............. 20849198942
average search depth.............. 15.8
nodes per second.................. 7986271
total time........................ 43:30

Crafty23.2 4_proc 64-bit egtb: 5 piece tablebases on USB stick 60 sec
number right...................... 85
total nodes searched.............. 26061141147
average search depth.............. 16.2
nodes per second.................. 11890454
total time........................ 36:31

So in the Eigenmann eet egtbs help. 4 more positions solved, 4 min faster.
Kind regards
Bernhard