Human calculation vs computers

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Robert Flesher
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Human calculation vs computers

Post by Robert Flesher »

I thought I would share a game I played on the chessbase server. My official playchess membership expired a few months ago. However, I have been playing as a guest, and have found lots of strong players, and a few patzters :shock: in the "Cafe". Remember I am only 2100 elo and this was a 5 minute blitz game, so the blunders by both side are abundant. This game was CRAZY! I challenge all you to play through the game, WITHOUT! an engine and assess it for yourself. Then use an engine and see all the mistakes, but remember, the best moves would not have produced this crazy, I think beautiful game. :lol:


[Event "Friendly Game, 5m + 0s"]
[Site "Café"]
[Date "2010.03.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Guest1191928"]
[Black "Flesher"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B21"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2010.03.14"]

1. e4 c5 2. f4 d6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. Ng5 e6 6. f5 d5 7. exd5 exd5 8. Qe2+
Ne7 9. Bb5+ Nbc6 10. O-O O-O 11. f6 a6 12. fxe7 Nxe7 13. Nxf7 Qb6 14. Bd3 c4+
15. Kh1 cxd3 16. Qxe7 dxc2 17. Nc3 Bf5 18. Rxf5 gxf5 19. Ng5 Rae8 20. Nxd5 Qh6
21. d3 Rxe7 22. Nxe7+ Kh8 23. Nf7+ Rxf7 24. Bxh6 Bxh6 25. Nxf5 c1=Q+ 26. Rxc1
Bxc1 27. Ng3 0-1
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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A game i played on ICC a couple of years ago in the 5-min category. This topic encouraged me to go back and look at some of my saved games and I thought this was nice:

[Event "ICC 5 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2008.03.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GoodPeople"]
[Black "Jesper"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B78"]
[WhiteElo "2112"]
[BlackElo "2329"]
[PlyCount "71"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2
O-O 9. Bc4 Bd7 10. O-O-O Qb8 11. g4 Rc8 12. Bb3 Ne5 13. h4 a5 14. a4 b5 15.
Ndxb5 Nxf3 16. Qg2 Ne5 17. g5 Nfg4 18. Bd4 h5 19. gxh6 Bxh6+ 20. Kb1 Kg7 21.
Rdf1 f6 22. h5 Bg5 23. hxg6 Kxg6 24. Nd5 Re8 25. Nb6 Qb7 26. Nxa8 Rxa8 27. Qh3
Nh6 28. Qh5+ Kg7 29. Nxd6 exd6 30. Rxf6 Kxf6 31. Rg1 Bg4 32. Rf1+ Bf5 33. exf5
Qg2 34. Qg6+ Ke7 35. Qe6+ Kd8 36. Bb6# 1-0
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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Here is a friendly game I played against an IM friend. No clock, but it was probably around 15 mins or so.

[Event "Friendly game"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.03.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Silver, Albert"]
[Black "Toth, Christian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B13"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Bd3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. c3 Nf6 7. O-O Bxf3 8. Qxf3 e6 9. Bf4 Bd6 10. Re1 O-O 11. Nd2 Bxf4 12. Qxf4 Qb8 13. Qh4 b5 14. Nf3 Ne7 15. Ne5 Ng6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Re3 Qd8 18. Nc6 Qc7 19. Rh3 Nh5 20. Ne7+ Kh7 21. Qxh5+ gxh5 22. Rxh5# 1-0
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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Albert Silver wrote:Here is a friendly game I played against an IM friend. No clock, but it was probably around 15 mins or so.

[Event "Friendly game"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.03.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Silver, Albert"]
[Black "Toth, Christian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B13"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Bd3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. c3 Nf6 7. O-O Bxf3 8. Qxf3 e6 9. Bf4 Bd6 10. Re1 O-O 11. Nd2 Bxf4 12. Qxf4 Qb8 13. Qh4 b5 14. Nf3 Ne7 15. Ne5 Ng6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Re3 Qd8 18. Nc6 Qc7 19. Rh3 Nh5 20. Ne7+ Kh7 21. Qxh5+ gxh5 22. Rxh5# 1-0

18.Nc6! with the threat of Anastasia's mate (was that the name?) is really nice!
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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metax wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:Here is a friendly game I played against an IM friend. No clock, but it was probably around 15 mins or so.

[Event "Friendly game"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.03.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Silver, Albert"]
[Black "Toth, Christian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B13"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Bd3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. c3 Nf6 7. O-O Bxf3 8. Qxf3 e6 9. Bf4 Bd6 10. Re1 O-O 11. Nd2 Bxf4 12. Qxf4 Qb8 13. Qh4 b5 14. Nf3 Ne7 15. Ne5 Ng6 16. Bxg6 hxg6 17. Re3 Qd8 18. Nc6 Qc7 19. Rh3 Nh5 20. Ne7+ Kh7 21. Qxh5+ gxh5 22. Rxh5# 1-0

18.Nc6! with the threat of Anastasia's mate (was that the name?) is really nice!

Great games !
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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Here is a real quicky played against WJChess 1.64 rated 1973 in my rating list with nearly 400 games played....

[Event "Zzzz_0_2"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.03.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "WJChess 1.64"]
[Black "Dr.Deeb"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D02"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 12 (20m)"]
[PlyCount "40"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

{D02: 1 d4 d5 2 Nf3 sidelines, including 2...Nf6 3 g3 and 2...Nf6 3 Bf4} 1. Nf3
Nf6 2. d4 d5 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5 Nc6 5. Ne5 $146 (5. c3 a5 6. Ne5 (6. Nd4 Nd7 7.
Nxc6 bxc6 8. b4 e5 9. Bc1 d4 10. cxd4 exd4 11. e3 dxe3 12. Bxe3 axb4 13. Bc4
Bxc5 14. Bxc5 Nxc5 15. Qxd8+ Kxd8 16. O-O Be6 17. Nd2 Ke7 18. Rfb1 Rhd8 19.
Bxe6 Nxe6 20. Nc4 c5 {
Kondrak,C (2153)-Hengl,C (2207)/Austria 2007/EXT 2009/0-1 (33)}) 6... Qc7 7.
Nxc6 Qxf4 8. e3 Qc7 9. Nd4 Qxc5 10. Bb5+ Nd7 11. a4 e6 12. Nd2 Bd6 13. Qg4 O-O
14. O-O Nf6 15. Qe2 Qc7 16. h3 e5 17. N4f3 Qe7 18. e4 dxe4 19. Nxe4 Nxe4 {
Paidousis,A-Siaperas,T/Athens 1971/EXT 2001/0-1 (40)}) (5. Nbd2 e6 6. e3 Bxc5
7. Bd3 Qe7 8. Ne5 Nd7 9. Nxc6 bxc6 10. Bg3 O-O 11. Qe2 f5 12. f3 e5 13. e4 f4
14. Bf2 Bxf2+ 15. Qxf2 Nc5 16. Nb3 Nxd3+ 17. cxd3 Rb8 {
1/2-1/2 Andersson,U (2630)-Hector,J (2540)/Malmo 1995/CBM 048}) (5. a3 Ne4 6.
b4 g5 7. Nxg5 Bg7 8. Ra2 O-O 9. Nxe4 dxe4 10. Qxd8 Rxd8 11. e3 Be6 12. c4 a5
13. b5 Ne5 14. Bxe5 Bxe5 15. Nd2 f5 16. Rc2 a4 17. Be2 Rac8 18. f3 exf3 19.
Nxf3 Bf6 {
Mabusela,J (2277)-Van den Heever,D (2202)/Milnerton 2007/CBM 121 Extra/1-0 (34)
}) (5. Nbd2 e6 $11) 5... Qc7 $15

[d]r1b1kb1r/ppq1pppp/2n2n2/2PpN3/5B2/8/PPP1PPPP/RN1QKB1R w KQkq - 3 6

In this position the poor thing tried to launch a tactical firework but it turned against it and burned it to it's deepest foundations :D
The game is commented by Depp Fritz 12....enjoy....

6. Ng6 $2 (6. Nxc6 $142 {
and White can hope to live} Qxf4 7. e3 $15) 6... e5 $19 7. Bxe5 Nxe5 8. Nxh8
Bxc5 9. c3 (9. e3 Bg4 10. Be2 O-O-O $19) 9... Be6 10. b4 (10. e3 O-O-O $19)
10... Bd6 11. f4 (11. e3 O-O-O 12. f4 $19) 11... Nc4 12. e4 (12. g3 {
cannot change destiny} Ne3 13. Qd3 Bxf4 $19) 12... Bxf4 13. Bxc4 dxc4 14. g3 (
14. O-O {is one last hope} Bxh2+ 15. Kh1 Nxe4 16. Nd2 Ng3+ 17. Kxh2 Nxf1+ 18.
Kg1 $19) 14... Bxg3+ $1 {the logical end} 15. hxg3 Qxg3+ 16. Kd2 O-O-O+ 17. Kc2
Rxd1 18. Rxd1 Nxe4 19. Kb2 Qg2+ (19... Qf2+ 20. Kc1 Qf3 21. Nxf7 Bxf7 22. a4
Nxc3 23. Rd6 Nxb1 24. Rd8+ Kxd8 25. Ra3 Qxa3+ 26. Kd1 Qe3 27. Kc2 Bg6+ 28. Kb2
Qa3#) 20. Kc1 g5 (20... g5 21. a4 Qf3 $19) 0-1

Cheers,
Dr.D
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maxchgr

Re: Human calculation vs computers

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nothin like those 2 bishops
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Re: Human calculation vs computers

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maxchgr wrote:nothin like those 2 bishops
Indeed....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….