Test Position: Rxg6

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David Dahlem
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Test Position: Rxg6

Post by David Dahlem »

[d]6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - - 0 1

ProDeo Q3 finds Rxg6 in 1 second. All other engines i tried could not find it, although after forcing this move, they like it.

9 00:01 394.104 394.104 -1.43 Rg8xg6
9 00:01 547.763 547.763 -1.43 Rg8xg6
9 00:01 789.063 789.063 +1.22 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Bh4f6 Kd7d6
10 00:01 1.002.707 1.002.707 +1.22 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Bh4f6 Kd7d6
11 00:03 2.177.038 1.088.519 +1.33 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 g4g5 h6h5 Bh4f2
12 00:05 4.383.407 762.331 +1.33 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 g4g5 h6h5 Bh4f2
13 00:15 12.923.073 833.746 +1.42 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Kc2d3 Kd7d6 Kd3e4 g6g5 Bh4f2 Ba5c3
14 00:31 27.239.192 878.683 +1.42 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Kc2d3 Kd7d6 Kd3e4 g6g5 Bh4f2 Ba5c3
yanquis1972
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Re: Test Position: Rxg6

Post by yanquis1972 »

here's some that have success fairly quickly (tho these were running on an octal, i am sure these programs will find Rxg6 on any hardware in a reasonable time.


6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - -

Engine: FireBird 1.2 x64 popcnt TB (2048 MB)
by Kranium and Sentinel, based on IppoLit

18.01 0:00 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (4.224.291) 5313 TB:40

18.39 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (5.816.840) 5482 TB:252

19.01 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (6.538.489) 5588 TB:271

19.02 0:02 +0.08++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (19.861.674) 6996 TB:9.354

19.02 0:02 +0.08++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (19.861.674) 6996 TB:9.354

19.01 0:03 +0.16++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (25.515.742) 7205 TB:11.092

19.01 0:03 +0.16++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (25.515.742) 7205 TB:11.092

19.01 0:04 +0.28++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (32.392.628) 7261 TB:14.392

19.01 0:04 +0.28++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Rd1 c1Q 3.Nf4+ Kg4
4.d6 Qc4+ 5.Kxd2 Qxa2+ 6.Kd3 Qb3+
7.Kd2 (32.392.628) 7261 TB:14.392

19.01 0:05 +0.46++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 c1R 6.Kxc1 Be3+
7.Kd1 Kxh3 8.gxf5 g5 9.d6 g4 10.f6 g3
11.f7 g2 12.f8Q g1Q+ 13.Ke2 Bg5
14.Qf5+ (40.469.290) 7328 TB:18.837

19.01 0:05 +0.46++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 c1R 6.Kxc1 Be3+
7.Kd1 Kxh3 8.gxf5 g5 9.d6 g4 10.f6 g3
11.f7 g2 12.f8Q g1Q+ 13.Ke2 Bg5
14.Qf5+ (40.469.290) 7328 TB:18.837

19.01 0:07 +0.73++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 c1R 6.Kxc1 Be3+
7.Kd1 Kxh3 8.gxf5 g5 9.d6 g4 10.f6 g3
11.f7 g2 12.f8Q g1Q+ 13.Ke2 Qh2+
14.Kxe3 (52.809.031) 7375 TB:47.093

19.01 0:07 +0.73++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 c1R 6.Kxc1 Be3+
7.Kd1 Kxh3 8.gxf5 g5 9.d6 g4 10.f6 g3
11.f7 g2 12.f8Q g1Q+ 13.Ke2 Qh2+
14.Kxe3 (52.809.031) 7375 TB:47.093

19.01 0:09 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (66.369.128) 7162
TB:339.005

19.39 0:09 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (68.695.305) 7206
TB:339.012

20.01 0:12 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (96.412.689) 7481
TB:945.430

20.39 0:13 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (100.715.386) 7560
TB:945.454

21.01 0:14 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (109.201.599) 7391
TB:958.042

21.39 0:15 0.00 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (117.147.937) 7427
TB:958.228

22.01 0:23 +0.08++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (181.763.090) 7883
TB:1.762.137

22.01 0:23 +0.08++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Be3+ 6.Kxc2 Kxh3
7.gxf5 g5 8.d6 g4 9.d7 Bg5 10.f6 Bxf6
11.a6 g3 12.a7 g2 13.a8Q g1Q 14.Qf3+ (181.763.090) 7883
TB:1.762.137

22.01 0:24 +0.16++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 a3
13.Bb6 g5 14.Bf2 (192.487.903) 7924
TB:1.782.677

22.01 0:24 +0.16++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 a3
13.Bb6 g5 14.Bf2 (192.487.903) 7924
TB:1.782.677

22.01 0:25 +0.28++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Ba5 (203.184.283) 7941
TB:1.796.208

22.01 0:25 +0.28++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Ba5 (203.184.283) 7941
TB:1.796.208

22.01 0:27 +0.46++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 a3
13.Ba7 g5 14.Kd3 (219.223.863) 7993
TB:1.817.303

22.01 0:27 +0.46++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 a3
13.Ba7 g5 14.Kd3 (219.223.863) 7993
TB:1.817.303

22.01 0:29 +0.73++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Ba5 (240.258.139) 8110
TB:1.894.700

22.01 0:29 +0.73++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Ba5 (240.258.139) 8110
TB:1.894.700

22.01 0:34 +0.81 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (287.877.987) 8434
TB:2.271.039

22.39 0:34 +0.81 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (297.139.357) 8499
TB:2.271.066

23.01 0:38 +0.89++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (326.946.025) 8571
TB:2.338.028

23.01 0:38 +0.89++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (326.946.025) 8571
TB:2.338.028

23.01 0:41 +0.96 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (357.866.317) 8575
TB:2.413.302

23.39 0:42 +0.96 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Bd2 (367.541.193) 8623
TB:2.413.415

24.01 0:51 +0.99 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 h5
13.gxh5 gxh5 14.Bh4 (456.577.204) 8794
TB:2.912.467

24.39 0:54 +0.99 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 h5
13.gxh5 gxh5 14.Bh4 (478.577.239) 8848
TB:2.913.667

24.01 1:02 +0.99 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 h5
13.gxh5 gxh5 14.Bh4 (544.143.933) 8768
TB:3.437.326

best move: Rg8xg6


6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - -

Engine: Stockfish 1.6.3 JA 64bit (1024 MB)
by Tord Romstad, Marco Costalba, Joona Kii

18.01 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (9.616.230) 6101

19.01 0:02 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (18.150.901) 7756

20.01 0:03 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (30.675.844) 8977

21.01 0:05 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (51.452.006) 9904

22.01 0:07 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (84.129.130) 10635

23.01 0:13 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 (148.274.348) 11038

23.03 0:20 +0.20++ 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.g4+ Kxh4 3.g3+ Kxg3
4.Rg1+ Bxg1 5.Kxd2 Kxh3 6.gxf5 Kg3
7.fxg6 h5 8.Kxc2 (228.348.087) 11285

24.01 0:33 +0.68 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Kc4 Bb6 12.Bf6 h5
13.gxh5 gxh5 14.Bg5 (395.061.230) 11707

25.01 0:47 +0.64 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Kc4 Bb6 12.Bf6 h5
13.gxh5 gxh5 14.Bg5 (545.151.921) 11446

26.01 1:24 +0.64 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Ba7 g5 14.Bf2 (955.199.706) 11243

best move: Rg8xg6



6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - -

Engine: Rybka 3 (1024 MB)
by Vasik Rajlich, Larry Kaufman

15.01 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 5.Rf4+ Kh5 6.Rf5+ Kg4
7.Rf4+ Kh5 8.Rf5+ Kg4 9.Rf4+ Kh5
10.Rf5+ Kg4 11.Rf4+ Kh5 12.Rf5+ Kg4
13.Rf4+ Kh5 14.Rf5+ (674.539) 514

16.01 0:02 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 5.Rf4+ Kh5 6.Rf5+ Kg4
7.Rf4+ Kh5 8.Rf5+ Kg4 9.Rf4+ Kh5
10.Rf5+ Kg4 11.Rf4+ Kh5 12.Rf5+ Kg4
13.Rf4+ Kh5 14.Rf5+ (1.126.526) 559

17.01 0:03 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 5.Rf4+ Kh5 6.Rf5+ Kg4
7.Rf4+ Kh5 8.Rf5+ Kg4 9.Rf4+ Kh5
10.Rf5+ Kg4 11.Rf4+ Kh5 12.Rf5+ Kg4
13.Rf4+ Kh5 14.Rf5+ (1.925.921) 593

18.01 0:05 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 5.Rf4+ Kh5 6.Rf5+ Kg4
7.Rf4+ Kh5 8.Rf5+ Kg4 9.Rf4+ Kh5
10.Rf5+ Kg4 11.Rf4+ Kh5 12.Rf5+ Kg4
13.Rf4+ Kh5 14.Rf5+ (3.298.016) 613

19.01 0:09 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ Kg4 5.Rf4+ Kh5 6.Rf5+ Kg4
7.Rf4+ Kh5 8.Rf5+ Kg4 9.Rf4+ Kh5
10.Rf5+ Kg4 11.Rf4+ Kh5 12.Rf5+ Kg4
13.Rf4+ Kh5 14.Rf5+ (6.065.766) 638

19.03 0:13 +0.20++ 1.Rxg6 (8.403.800) 626

19.01 0:15 +0.27 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ (9.293.282) 614

20.01 0:19 +0.47++ 1.Rxg6 (10.765.654) 579

20.01 0:21 +0.48 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 (11.911.674) 570

21.01 0:32 +0.68++ 1.Rxg6 (18.050.325) 568

21.01 0:37 +0.88++ 1.Rxg6 (19.936.727) 546 TB:1

21.01 0:46 +1.27 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2
13.Be1 Kc5 14.Ba5 (24.104.349) 532 TB:1



6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - -

Engine: Naum 4.1 (1024 MB)
by Aleksandar Naumov

18/38 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (8.570.075) 7135

19/40 0:01 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (15.008.813) 8086

20/39 0:03 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (27.393.150) 8825

21/41 0:05 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (47.161.120) 9417

22/47 0:08 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (85.018.217) 9837

23/45 0:14 0.00 1.Rf1 c1Q 2.Rxf5+ Kg4 3.Rf4+ Kh5
4.Rf5+ (149.467.690) 10074

23/50 0:20 +0.01 1.Rxg6 (206.811.613) 10058 TB:14

23/62 0:26 +0.28 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Kc4 Bb6 12.Be1 (256.037.021) 9833 TB:978

24/62 0:55 +0.74 1.Rxg6 fxg6 2.Nf4+ Kg4 3.Nh5 f4
4.Nf6+ Kf5 5.g4+ Ke5 6.Nd7+ Kd6
7.Rb6+ Bxb6 8.Kxd2 Bxa5+ 9.Kxc2 Kxd7
10.Kd3 Kd6 11.Ke4 Bc3 12.Bf2 Bb2 (534.339.296) 9567
TB:3.860

best move: Rg8xg6 time: 1:00.607 min n/s: 9.567.742 nodes: 579.319.948 TB: 3.860
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David Dahlem
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Re: Test Position: Rxg6

Post by David Dahlem »

Thanks John. Strange, i tried all these engines, and they all show Rf1 with a 0.00 score for a very long time. :?:
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Re: Test Position: Rxg6

Post by zullil »

David Dahlem wrote:[d]6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - - 0 1
Well, I see John beat me to it, but here's what Stockfish-1.6.3 (8 threads) says through depth 30:

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Searching: 6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - -
infinite: 1 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 2     -1.98   00:01     2090 g4+ fxg4 Rd1 c1=Q 
 2     +1.01   00:01     2227 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 
 2     +6.79   00:01     2375 Rxg6 d1=Q+ Rxd1 cxd1=Q+ Kxd1 fxg6 
 3     +6.42   00:01     2767 Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 
 4     +0.08   00:01     3596 Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 
 4     +0.73   00:01     6329 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc3 Ke1 Qxa5 
 5     +0.73   00:01     7740 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc3 Ke1 Qxa5 
 6     +0.00   00:01    21282 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qb1+ Ke2 Qe4+ Kf1 
 7     +0.00   00:01    29004 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qb1+ Ke2 Qe4+ Kf1 
 8     +0.00   00:01    47219 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qb1+ Ke2 Qe4+ Kf1 
 9     +0.00   00:01    73817 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qb1+ Ke2 Qe4+ Kf1 
10  <  -0.20   00:01   223086 Rd1 c1=Q Rxd2 Qc4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qb1+ Ke2 Qh1 Kd3 
                              Qf1+ Kc2 Be3 
10     +0.00   00:01   297284 Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
11     +0.00   00:01   368570 Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
12     +0.00   00:01   590960 Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
13     +0.00   00:01   949402 Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
14     +0.00   00:01    1391k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
15     +0.00   00:01    2017k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
16     +0.00   00:01    2950k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
17     +0.00   00:02    4708k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
18     +0.00   00:02    8074k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
19     +0.00   00:03   15040k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
20     +0.00   00:05   27661k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
21     +0.00   00:07   45537k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
22     +0.00   00:11   83521k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
23     +0.00   00:18  146840k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
24     +0.00   00:28  233016k Rf1 c1=Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 
24  >  +0.20   00:38  330982k Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 a3 Bf6 Kd6 
                              Ke4 
25     +0.97   00:58  510150k Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 g5 Bf2 Bb4 
                              Bd4 Bf8 Ke4 Kd6 Bb2 Kc7 Be5+ Kd7 g3 fxg3 Bxg3 Bd6 
                              Bxd6 Kxd6 a3 Kd7 Ke5 Ke7 
26     +1.05   01:26  760784k Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 g5 Bf2 Bb4 
                              Bd4 Bf8 Ke4 Kd6 Bb2 Kc7 Be5+ Kd7 g3 fxg3 Bxg3 Bd6 
                              Be5 Bxe5 Kxe5 Kd8 Kd6 Ke8 Ke6 h5 
27     +1.17   02:26    1283M Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 g5 Bf2 Bb4 
                              Bd4 Bf8 Ke4 Kd6 Bb2 Kc7 Be5+ Kd7 g3 fxg3 Bxg3 Bd6 
                              Be5 Bf8 Kd3 Ke7 Kd4 Kd7 Ke4 Ke7 Kf5 Kd7 Ke4 
28  >  +1.49   03:39    1914M Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 g5 Bf2 Bb4 
                              Bd4 Bf8 Ke4 Kd6 Bb2 Kc7 Be5+ Kd7 Kf5 Bc5 Bg7 Kd6 
                              Bxh6 Kxd5 Bxg5 
29     +1.49   04:50    2542M Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 g5 Bf2 Bb4 
                              Bd4 Bf8 Ke4 Kd6 Be5+ Kc5 Bb2 Kc4 Bf6 Bd6 Be5 Kc5 
                              Bb2 Kb5 Bg7 Kc5 Bxh6 Be7 d6 Bxd6 Bxg5 
30     +1.70   15:51    8228M Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ 
                              Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 Kd6 Ke4 
                              Bc3 Bf2 Bf6 Ba7 Bg5 Bd4 Kd7 Be5 Be7 Bxf4 Bf8 Be3 
                              Kd6 Bd2 Kc7 g5 hxg5 Bxg5 Bd6 Be3 Kd7 Bd4 
Nodes: 8386753124
Nodes/second: 8643000
Best move: Rxg6
Ponder move: fxg6
Marc MP

Re: Test Position: Rxg6

Post by Marc MP »

David Dahlem wrote:[d]6R1/b4p2/6np/P2P1p1k/p6B/6PN/P1ppK1P1/1R6 w - - 0 1

ProDeo Q3 finds Rxg6 in 1 second. All other engines i tried could not find it, although after forcing this move, they like it.

9 00:01 394.104 394.104 -1.43 Rg8xg6
9 00:01 547.763 547.763 -1.43 Rg8xg6
9 00:01 789.063 789.063 +1.22 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Bh4f6 Kd7d6
10 00:01 1.002.707 1.002.707 +1.22 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Bh4f6 Kd7d6
11 00:03 2.177.038 1.088.519 +1.33 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 g4g5 h6h5 Bh4f2
12 00:05 4.383.407 762.331 +1.33 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 g4g5 h6h5 Bh4f2
13 00:15 12.923.073 833.746 +1.42 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Kc2d3 Kd7d6 Kd3e4 g6g5 Bh4f2 Ba5c3
14 00:31 27.239.192 878.683 +1.42 Rg8xg6 f7xg6 Nh3f4+ Kh5g4 Nf4h5 f5f4 Nh5f6+ Kg4f5 g3g4+ Kf5e5 Nf6d7+ Ke5d6 Rb1b6+ Ba7xb6 Ke2xd2 Bb6xa5+ Kd2xc2 Kd6xd7 Kc2d3 Kd7d6 Kd3e4 g6g5 Bh4f2 Ba5c3
Chess Tiger 2007.1 finds it here:

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00:00:12.1	-0,15	17	8044777	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 

00:00:56.4	-0,15	18	38024163	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 

00:01:12.4	0,16	18	49038449	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 g5 hxg5 Bxg5 Kd6 

00:01:18.3	-0,10	19	53159962	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Bf6 Kd6 Bg7 Kxd5 Bxh6 Ke4 Bg5 

00:01:53.4	-0,10	20	76288122	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Bf6 Kd6 Bg7 Kxd5 Bxh6 Ke4 Bg5 

00:03:12.1	-0,06	21	129914526	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 Kd6 Ke4 g5 Bf2 Bc3 Bd4 Bxd4 Kxd4 

00:06:17.0	0,46	22	257644243	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 Kd6 Kc4 Bb6 Bf6 Be3 Bg7 g5 Bxh6 
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Re: Test Position: Rxg6

Post by Eelco de Groot »

Mmmm :? Maybe there is some bug or maybe there is something fishy about the position but Rainbow Serpent thinks it is a dead draw for some reason, and I left it running to complete even plydepth 21, and it was still a draw. Rxg6 becomes first choice again at plydepth 18. 21 ply took very long with only 128 Mb TT. The 2. Nf4 continuation is seen early but for some reason the 8 ply result with Nf4+ is negative and then it never comes back...

Have not checked the PV or anything.

Eelco

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00:00:00.4	-3,23	2	126221	g4+ fxg4 Kxd2 cxb1Q 
00:00:00.5	6,58	2	144709	Rxg6 Kxg6 Nf4+ Kg7 Rh1 c1Q 
00:00:00.6	5,29	3	235840	Rxg6 Kxg6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Nf4+ Kg7 Kxd2 c1Q+ Kxc1 Bxa5 d6 
00:00:00.8	3,48	4	336736	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Rh1 c1Q 
00:00:01.2	2,26	5	604650	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh3 Kh5 g4+ fxg4 
00:00:11.8	-0,69	6	6456115	Rxg6 fxg6 Rd1 c1Q d6 Qc4+ Kxd2 Qxa2+ Kd3 Qd5+ Kc2 Qxg2+ Kc3 g5 
00:00:11.9	0,00	6	6484987	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:12.0	0,00	7	6537771	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:12.2	1,29	7	6672079	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 Kxh5 g4+ fxg4 Rh1 d1Q+ Rxd1 cxd1Q+ Kxd1 Kxh4 d6 
00:00:18.1	-1,58	8	10307717	Rxg6 fxg6 Nf4+ Kg4 Nh5 f4 Nf6+ Kf5 g4+ Ke5 Nd7+ Kd6 Rb6+ Bxb6 Kxd2 Bxa5+ Kxc2 Kxd7 Kd3 Kd6 Kc4 
00:00:18.1	0,00	8	10333887	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:18.5	0,00	9	10497889	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:19.5	0,00	10	11054783	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:21.7	0,00	11	12357271	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:24.7	0,00	12	14173699	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:29.1	0,00	13	16916386	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:00:36.2	0,00	14	21370555	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:01:20.9	0,00	15	50482776	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:01:58.4	0,00	16	72526211	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:04:46.1	0,00	17	166833227	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:10:12.3	0,00	18	343457834	Rf1 c1Q Rxf5+ Kg4 Rf4+ Kh5 Rf5+ 
00:32:18.8	0,20	18	1220148837	Rxg6 fxg6 g4+ Kxh4 g3+ Kxg3 Rg1+ Bxg1 Kxd2 Bc5 gxf5 g5 Nxg5 hxg5 a6 Kh4 Kxc2 g4 d6 g3 d7 Bb6 a7 g2 a8Q g1Q Qh8+ Kg3 Qg7+ Kf2 Qxg1+ Kxg1 
00:59:21.0	0,00	19	2493568602	Rxg6 fxg6 g4+ Kxh4 g3+ Kxg3 Rg1+ Bxg1 Kxd2 Be3+ Kxc2 Kxh3 gxf5 g5 d6 g4 d7 Bg5 f6 Bxf6 a6 g3 a7 g2 a8Q g1Q Qf3+ Kh2 Qxf6 Qg2+ Kb1 Qh1+ 
01:59:12.6	0,00	20	718884089	Rxg6 fxg6 g4+ Kxh4 g3+ Kxg3 Rg1+ Bxg1 Kxd2 Be3+ Kxc2 Kxh3 gxf5 g5 d6 g4 d7 Bg5 f6 Bxf6 a6 
15:25:26.3	0,00	21	3280925153	Rxg6 fxg6 g4+ Kxh4 g3+ Kxg3 Rg1+ Bxg1 Kxd2 Be3+ Kxc2 Kxh3 gxf5 g5 d6 g4 d7 Bg5 f6 Bxf6 
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