Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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[d]3k4/p1p5/8/2p1p3/4P3/PpPP2K1/1P6/8 b - - 0 1

Zappa Mexico II have trouble to see :
1... c4 2. dxc4 c5 3. Kg4 Kc7 4. Kf5 Kb6 5. Kxe5 Ka5 6. Kd6 Ka4 7. Kxc5 a5 8. e5 1/2-1/2

SF 1.6 find the the draw in 1 second !


Analysis by Zappa Mexico II:

1...Re7 2.Rh4 Rf6 3.Rh5 a6 4.Rh6 a5 5.a4 c4 6.dxc4 c5 7.Rh5 Rf7
² (0.62) Profondeur: 14/18 00:00:00 401kN
1...Re7 2.Rh4 Rf6 3.Rh5 a6 4.Rh6 a5 5.a4 c4 6.dxc4 c5 7.Rh5 Rf7
² (0.62) Profondeur: 14/18 00:00:00 526kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rf6 4.Rh5 a6 5.a4 a5 6.Rh6 Rf7 7.Rg5 Re7 8.Rf5 Rd6 9.Rf6 Rc6 10.Rxe5 Rc5 11.Rf5 Rxc4
± (0.98) Profondeur: 15/36 00:00:01 905kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rf6 4.Rh5 a6 5.a4 a5 6.Rh6 Rf7 7.Rg5 Re7 8.Rf5 Rd6 9.Rf6 Rc6 10.Rxe5 Rc5 11.Rf5 Rxc4
± (0.98) Profondeur: 15/36 00:00:01 1039kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 16/45 00:00:05 4475kN, tb=3
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 16/45 00:00:05 4549kN, tb=3
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 17/45 00:00:07 5887kN, tb=7
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 17/45 00:00:07 6023kN, tb=7
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 18/49 00:00:12 9506kN, tb=68
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 18/49 00:00:12 9638kN, tb=68
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 19/57 00:01:10 47449kN, tb=6380
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 19/57 00:01:10 48016kN, tb=6381
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 20/57 00:01:17 53644kN, tb=6414
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 20/57 00:01:18 54562kN, tb=6414
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 21/57 00:01:23 59301kN, tb=6524
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Jim Walker
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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:?:
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Vinvin
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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Jim Walker wrote::?:
:?: :?: :?
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zullil
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

Post by zullil »

Vincent,

Please take a look at the analysis in your original post, and I think you'll understand the :?:

Louis
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

Post by bob »

Vinvin wrote:[d]3k4/p1p5/8/2p1p3/4P3/PpPP2K1/1P6/8 b - - 0 1

Zappa Mexico II have trouble to see :
1... c4 2. dxc4 c5 3. Kg4 Kc7 4. Kf5 Kb6 5. Kxe5 Ka5 6. Kd6 Ka4 7. Kxc5 a5 8. e5 1/2-1/2

SF 1.6 find the the draw in 1 second !


Analysis by Zappa Mexico II:

1...Re7 2.Rh4 Rf6 3.Rh5 a6 4.Rh6 a5 5.a4 c4 6.dxc4 c5 7.Rh5 Rf7
² (0.62) Profondeur: 14/18 00:00:00 401kN
1...Re7 2.Rh4 Rf6 3.Rh5 a6 4.Rh6 a5 5.a4 c4 6.dxc4 c5 7.Rh5 Rf7
² (0.62) Profondeur: 14/18 00:00:00 526kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rf6 4.Rh5 a6 5.a4 a5 6.Rh6 Rf7 7.Rg5 Re7 8.Rf5 Rd6 9.Rf6 Rc6 10.Rxe5 Rc5 11.Rf5 Rxc4
± (0.98) Profondeur: 15/36 00:00:01 905kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rf6 4.Rh5 a6 5.a4 a5 6.Rh6 Rf7 7.Rg5 Re7 8.Rf5 Rd6 9.Rf6 Rc6 10.Rxe5 Rc5 11.Rf5 Rxc4
± (0.98) Profondeur: 15/36 00:00:01 1039kN
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 16/45 00:00:05 4475kN, tb=3
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 16/45 00:00:05 4549kN, tb=3
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 17/45 00:00:07 5887kN, tb=7
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 17/45 00:00:07 6023kN, tb=7
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 18/49 00:00:12 9506kN, tb=68
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Df1+ 13.Re4 Rb2
² (0.35) Profondeur: 18/49 00:00:12 9638kN, tb=68
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 19/57 00:01:10 47449kN, tb=6380
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 19/57 00:01:10 48016kN, tb=6381
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 20/57 00:01:17 53644kN, tb=6414
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 20/57 00:01:18 54562kN, tb=6414
1...Re7 2.Rg4 c4 3.dxc4 Rd6 4.Rf5 Rc5 5.Rxe5 Rxc4 6.Rf4 Rd3 7.e5 Rc2 8.e6 Rxb2 9.e7 Ra1 10.e8D b2 11.De7 b1D 12.Dxc7 Dc1+ 13.Re4 Rb2 14.c4 Rxa3 15.Da5+ Rb3 16.Db5+ Rc3 17.c5
= (0.21) Profondeur: 21/57 00:01:23 59301kN, tb=6524
Looks to me like black is winning. :) It has apparently created a rook that does not exist, according to the output you posted...
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Edmund
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

Post by Edmund »

bob wrote:Looks to me like black is winning. :) It has apparently created a rook that does not exist, according to the output you posted...
Maybe it is Spanish, where R = Rey = King
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

Post by metax »

Looks like French ("Profondeur") and as far as I know:

R = King
D = Queen
T = Rook
F = Bishop
C = Knight
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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Oh, of course. Boy, do I feel stupid.

Apologies for my Anglo-centrism. :oops:
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Jim Walker
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

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zullil wrote:Oh, of course. Boy, do I feel stupid.

Apologies for my Anglo-centrism. :oops:
"Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness". :lol:
Who in the hell uses french anyway :?:
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Vinvin
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Re: Test position, pawn endgame : Draw

Post by Vinvin »

Jim Walker wrote:
zullil wrote:Oh, of course. Boy, do I feel stupid.

Apologies for my Anglo-centrism. :oops:
"Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness". :lol:
Who in the hell uses french anyway :?:
About 136 million people :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language

And English, about 350 millions : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
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