TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3

http://www.tcec-chess.org/stage_2a.php

STARTS WEDNESDAY MAY 18TH @ 19:00 CEST

Official discussion thread: http://www.tcec-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=126
NB: You need to be registered in order to participate or view the discussion on the official site.

For live chat please visit http://chessbomb.com/
NB: Don't pay too much attention to their built-in computer analysis since it's running multi pv which slows it down considerably.

Participants:
Rybka
Stockfish
Junior
Naum
Spark
Sjeng
Critter
Gull

NB: Engine updates are allowed only until the tournament starts,
and then the engine version numbers will be added.



Info:
CPU: Intel Core i7 980x @ 4198 MHz
MB: Asus Rampage III Gene
RAM: 12 GB Corsair
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Threads: Up to 6 per engine.
Tournament length: 56 games.
Tournament type: Double round robin.
Openings: Randomly selected from the new TCEC main opening book.
All openings are fixed to 10 moves and analyzed by Rybka & Houdini on the TCEC computer for 4 minutes per opening.


Time Control:
150 minutes + 30 seconds added per move for the whole game.


Graphical User Interface:
Type: ChessGUI
Resign: +/- 7.50 eval for 5 moves in a row (both engines)
Draw: An eval of +0.05/-0.05 for 5 moves in a row (both engines - only possible at move 30 or later)
If there is a pawn advance, or a capture by any kind, this draw counter will reset
Ponder: Off
Hash: Max 4096 MB per engine
Endgame tablebases: For any engine using these, all 3-4-5 men are available (Nalimov, Gaviota etc.)
Endgame cache: Up to 256 MB

For complete information on the rules and hardware, see the Information page.


Misc:
Stage 2a is half of the qualifiers from stage 1. The top 4 finishers will
move on to stage 3 while the bottom 4 are out of TCEC for this season.

Complete season 1 archive: http://www.tcec-chess.org/archive_s1.php
Complete season 2 archive: http://www.tcec-chess.org/archive_s2.php

For news and updates check the News Forum regularly.
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

Post by Jouni »

I hate seeing 5 piece draws played for hours and hours (Naum - Spark), totally waste of time and energy, should be outlawed immediately :!: Even if one engine can lose draw position no effect to total result. But otherwise TCEC is the most interesting cc tournament by far, Martin :)

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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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Jouni wrote:I hate seeing 5 piece draws played for hours and hours (Naum - Spark), totally waste of time and energy, should be outlawed immediately :!: Even if one engine can lose draw position no effect to total result. But otherwise TCEC is the most interesting cc tournament by far, Martin :)

Jouni
Jouni,

Yes I agree, but in general people didn't want to let the GUI adjudicate TB positions due to the problem that some engines don't use TBs.

In any case, there was a hardware problem making Naum - Spark stop
so I have decided to manually adjudicate that game as a draw.

Also, this problem might be the cause of the SF crash yesterday, so
I have resumed SF - Critter from the last position.

The hardware issues should be resolved now, hopefully there won't be
any more trouble.

Best,
Martin
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

Post by Martin Thoresen »

Standings after 2 of 14 rounds:

Code: Select all

N Engine         Pts   SB   J N S S S R C G 

1 Junior 12.5    1.5  1.50        =   1     
2 Naum 4.2       1.5  1.00          =   1   
3 Stockfish 2.11 1.5  0.25              = 1 
4 Sjeng c't 2010 1.0  1.25  =       =       
5 Spark 1.0      1.0  1.25    =   =         
6 Rybka 4.1      1.0  0.00  0             1 
7 Critter 1.01   0.5  0.75    0 =           
8 Gull 3683      0.0  0.00      0     0     
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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A minor update to the TCEC site has been made.

1: One separate live page with only the current live game (the LIVE link in the menu).
2: The other stage pages will contain all finished games, and they will be linked in color to the LIVE link.
3: A small timer has been added since the last move was made.
4: The crosstable will now update automatically, you can also click "Update" to force it to update.

This should make it easier for people with a low-bandwidth internet connection to follow the live games.
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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IMHO Evaluation Graph is ugly and too big (Screen Size = medium). I would prefer more material balance display. Another thing: Critter seems to be best as blitz player, not in long games?

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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

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Jouni wrote:IMHO Evaluation Graph is ugly and too big (Screen Size = medium). I would prefer more material balance display. Another thing: Critter seems to be best as blitz player, not in long games?

Jouni
You can now hide the eval graph if you prefer.
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

Post by Mike S. »

Jouni wrote:Critter seems to be best as blitz player, not in long games?
In the CEGT 4/40 blitz list, Critter 0.90 is 4th between Stockfish and Naum, and in the CCRL 40/4 list Critter 1.01 is on the same rank. The ranking doesn't seem to be different from the 40/20 and 40/40 ratings.

Probably Critter has had some "statistical" bad luck at TCEC S3, so far. We see engines overperforming too, like Shredder and also Junior I think. The number of games is small, so we need to hesitate before we draw conclusions about the general strengths under these specific conditions.

Often it's very interesting to kibitz! :mrgreen:
Regards, Mike
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Re: TCEC Stage 2a - Season 3 (150m + 30s) LIVE! Starts 18/5

Post by Jouni »

OK finally Critter scored a win :) BTW if one game is as average 5 hours, when is stage 4 over (I am too lazy to calculate)?

Jouni