SWCR: Oldie-Mix after 2.079 of 15.120 games

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

here are the results of my Oldie-Mix tourney.
Each of the 22 "new tested" engines played now around 150 of 1.080 games.

LIVE-Result tournament table:
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... ix-1a.html

More in Information to this tourney can be found on my webpage in the Aktuell / News selection in German language.

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 162 Tornado 4.40 w32               2565   16   16  1520   32%  2695   33% 
 163 Crafty 23.3 JA w32             2564   19   19  1000   30%  2705   32% 
 164 BugChess2 1.9 w32              2562   19   19  1160   24%  2766   26% 
 165 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32             2562   48   47   150   60%  2489   29% NEW
 166 BugChess2 1.7 x64              2560   18   18  1280   26%  2738   29% 
 167 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2559   11   11  3589   28%  2729   31% 
 168 Crafty 23.2 JA x64             2553   19   19  1120   28%  2716   30% 
 169 Scorpio 2.6 JA x64             2552   18   18  1200   27%  2725   31% 
 170 BobCat 2.75 x64                2550   15   15  1800   26%  2736   31% 
 171 Chronos 1.99 x64, no ponder    2549   17   18  1240   27%  2719   33% 
 172 Crafty 23.3 JA x64, no ponder  2547   19   20  1040   26%  2730   30% 
 173 Alaric 7.07 w32                2542   49   48   150   57%  2494   24% NEW
 174 Tornado 4.25 x64               2537   20   20  1080   27%  2713   25% 
 175 Colossus 2008b w32             2525   46   45   149   55%  2493   40% NEW
 176 TheKing 3.50 x64               2518   17   18  1440   25%  2722   24% 
 177 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32           2518   47   47   149   54%  2491   32% NEW
 178 Daydreamer 1.75 JA x64         2513   18   18  1280   25%  2706   29% 
 179 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32      2508   48   48   149   52%  2495   30% NEW
 180 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32     2501   48   48   149   52%  2492   27% NEW
 181 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32       2481   46   46   149   48%  2494   36% NEW
 182 Tornado 3.67 x64               2476   21   21  1080   21%  2713   25% 
 183 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2471   14   14  2429   23%  2683   25% 
 184 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32             2470   45   45   149   47%  2495   45% NEW
 185 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32            2467   47   48   149   47%  2493   29% NEW
 186 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32         2466   47   47   149   46%  2493   34% NEW
 187 Philou 3.6 w32                 2462   46   47   149   45%  2494   37% NEW
 188 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32     2456   47   47   149   45%  2495   32% NEW
 189 Arasan 13.2 w32                2455   47   48   148   45%  2495   30% NEW
 190 Amyan 1.72 w32                 2443   46   47   150   43%  2495   33% NEW
 191 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32              2431   47   48   149   41%  2495   31% NEW
 192 Gaviota 0.84 w32               2425   48   49   148   41%  2494   27% NEW
 193 Cheng3 1.05 w32                2420   46   47   149   39%  2497   36% NEW
 194 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32       2415   46   47   149   39%  2494   36% NEW
 195 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32          2412   48   50   149   38%  2497   26% NEW
 196 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32        2411   47   48   149   38%  2495   33% NEW
 197 Aristarch 4.50 w32             2402   47   49   149   37%  2497   30% NEW
 198 AnMon 5.75 w32                 2394   48   49   149   36%  2496   30% NEW
 199 Gaviota 0.80 x64               2355   25   26  1040   11%  2713   15% 

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

Shredder Classic opening book for a rating list or bigger tournaments is available in version 5.10!

Some changes in my Random opening book for Shredder Classic 4.0 GUI are done.

Each position from this book in checked on 4 times with 1 minute per position and 4 cores by 4 strong engines. This book is optimazed on ECO classicfication segmentation GMs played. Included are around 5.000 positions GMs plays in current opening praxis. Furthermore, this opening book is tuned in detail for a rating list. Positions from games, ended with fast draw up to 16 moves are deactivated. I find out this position in around 100.000 games I used with older versions of this opening book.

Again, this opening book in for Shredder Classic GUI only and optimal for a rating list.

Hint:
This isn't a special book we know for an engine!
This is a special book for a rating list!!

Last year I wrote a project description to this book in German language:
http://www.amateurschach.de/swcr/_pgn-random-book.htm

Important are the book settings because all the all insignificant factors (game results and so one) are deleted -- this produced the book random with checked positions only --. The reason that the opening book is with 2.8Mb very small but included a lot. In download file you can find a *.jpg for set the right settings.

More information can be found in my "Aktuell/News" page, message 306 in German language.

The opening book can be found in my download area.

In my download area can be found the 175 games ended with fast draw from the latest 100.000 SWCR 40-minute games. I replayed this games for SWCR but I need this games for my book optimation.

Best
Frank

More or less:
This book is playing per random a test set 5.000 checked positions are included. I set only for the first moves weighting factors for producing a good ECO segmentations GMs played in current praxis. This was the mistake I made with the first versions because the ECO segmentations are bad. All variants goes up to black move 8.

[Andres Valverde]

Frank,

Let me congrat and thank you for such a huge tourney. It will be of great value for all the participants.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Andreas,

have fun with this tourney.
After different problems (not with your engine) now all is working fine and your engine is really strong. So I think I should test your next version in SWCR-64 with the stronger opponents.

Really strong ... yes

Thats the problem if I test the same engines in different versions again and again. No SWCR information about most of all the nice amateurs. The main problem my list have and I will try to work on it in the next year. Means I will try to test more of the amateurs.

Best
Frank

[Adam Hair]

Hi Andreas,

have fun with this tourney.
After different problems (not with your engine) now all is working fine and your engine is really strong. So I think I should test your next version in SWCR-64 with the stronger opponents.

Really strong ... yes

Thats the problem if I test the same engines in different versions again and again. No SWCR information about most of all the nice amateurs. The main problem my list have and I will try to work on it in the next year. Means I will try to test more of the amateurs.

Best
Frank

Hi Frank,

I applaud your change in focus to amateur engines, especially engines less than 2800 Elos.

Adam

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Adam,

yes, if I read the thread to Fritz / Naum and all the stuff to the Fruit Clones and good known engines, like Loop or Onno. But I wrote it in my playing style descriptions that more or less the style from Loop / Onno / Fruit and family is the same.

Thanks for your message!

Here after 2.501 of 15.120 games ...
Or around 180 of 1.080 games per still running engines!
Nice to see that the still running tourney have a ELO average from 2.500 points if Shredder calculated with 2.800 ELO.

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
  54 Shredder 12 w32                2800    7    7  7400   60%  2725   37% 
  82 Spark 1.0 w32                  2715   13   13  1980   52%  2702   35% Again
  92 Hannibal 1.1 w32               2702   16   16  1299   47%  2720   38% Again
 144 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32            2610   16   17  1259   41%  2670   36% Again
 153 SmarThink 1.20 w32             2592   11   11  3179   36%  2692   35% Again
 159 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32             2574   44   44   179   61%  2499   27% NEW
 167 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2559   11   11  3620   28%  2727   31% Again
 174 Colossus 2008b w32             2533   42   41   180   55%  2499   42% NEW
 175 Alaric 7.07 w32                2527   44   43   180   54%  2502   27% NEW
 176 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32      2523   43   43   180   53%  2502   32% NEW
 177 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32           2521   43   43   180   53%  2499   30% NEW
 180 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32     2496   44   44   179   49%  2501   27% NEW
 181 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32       2488   42   42   180   48%  2502   37% NEW
 182 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32            2483   43   43   179   47%  2502   29% NEW
 183 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32         2481   42   43   180   47%  2502   36% NEW
 184 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32     2477   43   43   179   46%  2503   34% NEW
 186 Philou 3.6 w32                 2475   42   42   179   46%  2502   40% NEW
 187 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32             2473   41   42   179   46%  2502   42% NEW
 188 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2470   14   14  2460   23%  2681   25% Again
 189 Arasan 13.2 w32                2467   42   43   180   45%  2503   32% NEW
 190 Amyan 1.72 w32                 2448   43   43   180   42%  2503   31% NEW
 191 Gaviota 0.84 w32               2446   43   44   179   42%  2503   28% NEW
 192 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32              2441   42   43   179   41%  2503   33% NEW
 193 Cheng3 1.05 w32                2433   42   42   180   40%  2504   38% NEW
 194 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32        2431   43   44   179   40%  2505   31% NEW
 195 Aristarch 4.50 w32             2428   43   44   180   39%  2504   29% NEW
 196 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32       2423   42   43   179   38%  2504   35% NEW
 197 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32          2414   44   45   179   37%  2505   26% NEW
 198 AnMon 5.75 w32                 2409   43   44   180   36%  2504   31% NEW

[Frank Quisinsky]

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
  54 Shredder 12 w32                2800    8    7  7400   60%  2726   37% 
  84 Spark 1.0 w32                  2714   13   13  2016   52%  2698   35% Again
  92 Hannibal 1.1 w32               2703   16   16  1337   48%  2714   38% Again
 144 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32            2611   16   16  1296   42%  2665   36% Again
 153 SmarThink 1.20 w32             2593   11   11  3216   36%  2690   35% Again
 156 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32             2588   41   40   216   63%  2496   27% NEW
 167 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2559   11   11  3656   28%  2725   31% Again
 174 Colossus 2008b w32             2526   38   38   216   54%  2498   40% NEW
 175 Alaric 7.07 w32                2519   39   39   216   53%  2498   31% NEW
 177 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32      2515   39   39   216   53%  2499   34% NEW
 179 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32           2505   39   39   216   51%  2499   30% NEW
 180 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32         2485   39   39   216   48%  2500   36% NEW
 181 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32     2485   40   40   216   48%  2500   28% NEW
 182 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32       2482   39   39   216   47%  2500   34% NEW
 183 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32     2479   38   39   216   47%  2500   37% NEW
 185 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32            2475   39   39   216   47%  2500   32% NEW
 186 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2470   13   13  2497   24%  2679   25% Again
 187 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32             2467   38   38   216   45%  2500   42% NEW
 188 Philou 3.6 w32                 2465   38   39   216   45%  2500   37% NEW
 189 Arasan 13.2 w32                2462   39   39   216   45%  2501   33% NEW
 190 Amyan 1.72 w32                 2452   39   39   216   43%  2501   34% NEW
 191 Gaviota 0.84 w32               2449   40   40   216   43%  2501   27% NEW
 192 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32              2442   39   40   216   42%  2501   31% NEW
 193 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32        2440   39   40   216   41%  2501   31% NEW
 194 Cheng3 1.05 w32                2432   38   39   215   40%  2502   39% NEW
 195 Aristarch 4.50 w32             2421   40   41   215   39%  2502   29% NEW
 196 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32          2420   40   41   216   39%  2502   26% NEW
 197 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32       2411   39   40   216   37%  2502   33% NEW
 198 AnMon 5.75 w32                 2409   40   40   216   37%  2503   29% NEW

[Ferdy]

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
  54 Shredder 12 w32                2800    8    7  7400   60%  2726   37% 
  84 Spark 1.0 w32                  2714   13   13  2016   52%  2698   35% Again
  92 Hannibal 1.1 w32               2703   16   16  1337   48%  2714   38% Again
 144 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32            2611   16   16  1296   42%  2665   36% Again
 153 SmarThink 1.20 w32             2593   11   11  3216   36%  2690   35% Again
 156 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32             2588   41   40   216   63%  2496   27% NEW
 167 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2559   11   11  3656   28%  2725   31% Again
 174 Colossus 2008b w32             2526   38   38   216   54%  2498   40% NEW
 175 Alaric 7.07 w32                2519   39   39   216   53%  2498   31% NEW
 177 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32      2515   39   39   216   53%  2499   34% NEW
 179 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32           2505   39   39   216   51%  2499   30% NEW
 180 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32         2485   39   39   216   48%  2500   36% NEW
 181 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32     2485   40   40   216   48%  2500   28% NEW
 182 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32       2482   39   39   216   47%  2500   34% NEW
 183 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32     2479   38   39   216   47%  2500   37% NEW
 185 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32            2475   39   39   216   47%  2500   32% NEW
 186 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2470   13   13  2497   24%  2679   25% Again
 187 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32             2467   38   38   216   45%  2500   42% NEW
 188 Philou 3.6 w32                 2465   38   39   216   45%  2500   37% NEW
 189 Arasan 13.2 w32                2462   39   39   216   45%  2501   33% NEW
 190 Amyan 1.72 w32                 2452   39   39   216   43%  2501   34% NEW
 191 Gaviota 0.84 w32               2449   40   40   216   43%  2501   27% NEW
 192 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32              2442   39   40   216   42%  2501   31% NEW
 193 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32        2440   39   40   216   41%  2501   31% NEW
 194 Cheng3 1.05 w32                2432   38   39   215   40%  2502   39% NEW
 195 Aristarch 4.50 w32             2421   40   41   215   39%  2502   29% NEW
 196 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32          2420   40   41   216   39%  2502   26% NEW
 197 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32       2411   39   40   216   37%  2502   33% NEW
 198 AnMon 5.75 w32                 2409   40   40   216   37%  2503   29% NEW

Thanks Frank, this is a good collection for me to evaluate on ponder on games. Sample a piece sacrifice against Hannibal to gain connected passers at critical ranks. Deuterium played Bxh6.
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[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Ferndinand,

that's nice that you checked the games from your engine. For minutes I made a database update. Now 3.536 of 15.120 games are available in ...

1. *.cbh with Shredder GUI comments
2. *.pgn without Shredder GUI comments

Around 7Mb.

Can be donwload in my download area.

Thanks for your interest and good luck for your engine. I hope you can find a lot in the database. Interesting is to check the games up to end. Most of the engines have problems with different endgames. In SWCR all games playind up to mate. In this case all the endgame problems can be see very easy. Not looked in detail for your engine ... but perhaps ... ?!

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

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  SWCR         : 149.866 games           #Time control: 40/10 "repeatedly"
  Last update  : November 17th, 2011     #Game average: 40 minutes, move average = 85
                                         #Resign      : OFF
  LIVE 1       : Oldie-Mix               #Ponder      : ON
  Cores        : 08/16 (for SWCR-32)     #Learning    : OFF
  To play      : 11.248 of 15.120        #Endgames    : 4-pieces, 32Mb cache
                                         #Opening book: Own PGN random 5.10 book
  not LIVE     : Fritz 13 w32            #GUI         : Shredder Classic 4 / Arena
  Cores        : 08/16 (for SWCR-32)     #OS          : Windows XP Pro. x64 Edition
  To play      : 1.206 of 1.320          #Processors  : Intel® Core™2Q, 4xQ9550 2,83GHz
                                                      : Intel® Core™i7, 1x720 1,60GHz
                                         #Cores       : 1 core for each engine
  Database     : 145.880 games           #Hash-Tables : 256Mb  
  Updated      : October 31st, 2011      #Games       : 1.000 per engine minimal



          NAME / version of engine       ELO    +    -   GAM    SC   OP     DR
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   8   43 Fritz 13 w32                   2842   54   53   114   67%  2723   45% NEW, still running
  11   55 Shredder 12 w32                2800    7    8  7404   60%  2726   37% 
   -   84 Spark 1.0 w32                  2715   13   13  2080   53%  2693   35% Again
   -   93 Hannibal 1.1 w32               2703   16   16  1401   49%  2705   37% Again
  33  144 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32            2611   16   16  1361   43%  2658   36% Again
   -  154 SmarThink 1.20 w32             2593   11   11  3280   37%  2687   35% Again
  39  158 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32             2578   36   35   281   60%  2502   28% NEW, still running
  41  168 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32     2559   11   11  3721   29%  2722   31% Again
  44  175 Alaric 7.07 w32                2521   35   35   277   53%  2500   31% NEW, still running
  45  176 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32      2519   35   34   277   53%  2500   33% NEW, still running
  48  179 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32           2511   35   35   275   52%  2500   31% NEW, still running
  49  180 Colossus 2008b w32             2505   34   34   277   51%  2501   37% NEW, still running
  50  181 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32         2496   34   34   276   49%  2500   34% NEW, still running
  51  182 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32            2486   35   35   277   48%  2501   33% NEW, still running
  52  183 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32     2485   34   34   276   48%  2501   35% NEW, still running
  53  184 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32     2479   35   35   277   47%  2500   29% NEW, still running
  54  185 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32       2478   34   35   276   47%  2502   33% NEW, still running
  55  187 Zarkov 6.44 w32                2470   13   13  2556   24%  2675   26% Again
  56  188 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32             2467   34   34   277   45%  2501   39% NEW, still running
  57  189 Philou 3.6 w32                 2461   34   34   277   44%  2501   35% NEW, still running
  58  190 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32              2460   35   35   277   45%  2501   29% NEW, still running
  59  191 Gaviota 0.84 w32               2453   35   36   277   43%  2501   25% NEW, still running
  60  192 Amyan 1.72 w32                 2449   35   35   277   42%  2501   33% NEW, still running
  61  193 Arasan 13.2 w32                2448   35   35   277   43%  2502   31% NEW, still running
  62  194 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32        2444   35   35   276   42%  2501   33% NEW, still running
  63  195 Cheng3 1.05 w32                2438   34   35   276   41%  2503   37% NEW, still running
  64  196 Aristarch 4.50 w32             2430   35   36   277   40%  2503   28% NEW, still running
  65  197 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32          2428   35   36   276   39%  2503   29% NEW, still running
  66  198 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32       2413   35   35   276   37%  2503   34% NEW, still running
  67  199 AnMon 5.75 w32                 2401   35   36   277   36%  2503   28% NEW, still running