Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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IWB
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Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

Post by IWB »

As usual @ http://www.inwoba.de

Have fun
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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Thanks Ingo 8-)
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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go Stockfish go!!
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

Post by gladius »

Thanks Ingo! Will be very interesting to see how some of the eval changes play out against a wider set of opponents.
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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Thank you very much, Ingo. Excellent your IPON!.

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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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Hmm, last minute changes have apparently made engine worse than 2.2.2 :shock: :x
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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we will see another performance in Grahams tournament of 8 cores. However in Ipon is not doing bad
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

Post by lkaufman »

I'm pretty sure that SF 2.3.1 is not actually worse than 2.2.2, and if it finishes lower on the IPON list it will probably just be due to margin-of-error. Still, we see the same thing happening that happened with Critter and with Houdini 2.0, namely that newer versions look like big improvements in ultra-fast testing but the gains disappear once you get beyond blitz levels. Some diminution of gains with longer time limits is normal due to increased draws, we get that with Komodo, but when the gains disappear (or nearly so) with depth it indicates that the changes did not scale well. Finding improvements that help at any level is the challenge.
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

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lkaufman wrote:Finding improvements that help at any level is the challenge.
Is that a petitition and if so where can I sign it?

I believe that the ultra fast engine testing with tousands of games reaches a border line for "normal" chess when it comes to elo improvements which should be visible for humans!
Maybe we need a change (or extension) in paradigma of engine development as we had it a few years ago with the change from knowledge to search ... maybe the pendulum is swining back ...

Ok, implementing knowledge is more difficult than "speeding up" the search or cutting the tree but I would find that very interesting!

Bye
Ingo

Edit: "implementing knowledge is more difficult than "speeding up" the search" is easy to say ... no offence ment, I know that this is difficult enough!
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Re: Stockfish 2.3.1 running for the IPON

Post by LudiBuda »

Vas was apparently doing this better then anyone else.
Do you have any inside knowledge that you are willing to share :) ?