The result of Stockfish 130623 is now online.
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LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
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pohl4711
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Vinvin
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
Thanks for test !
That suggests +35 elo since SF 3 !!
That suggests +35 elo since SF 3 !!
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23 Stockfish 3 x64s 3019 5 5 11000 46% 3050 45%
15 Stockfish 130519 x64s 3037 5 5 11000 49% 3048 45%
13 Stockfish 130601 x64s 3046 4 5 13000 50% 3048 45%
12 Stockfish 130623 x64s 3054 5 5 10000 50% 3052 46%-
pohl4711
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
Yes, thats what I wrote in the headline of the Home-Screen of my website...+35 Elo to Stockfish 3.Vinvin wrote:Thanks for test !
That suggests +35 elo since SF 3 !!
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Vinvin
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
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pohl4711
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
IMO nobody needs a official release as long as the development-compiles work so fine (and faster as the official JA-compiles)...Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
Best - Stefan
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
This won't be +35 or +30 points, it's at bullet control. +15 is more reasonable to expect at 40/4 or 5+3.Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
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geots
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
Laskos wrote:This won't be +35 or +30 points, it's at bullet control. +15 is more reasonable to expect at 40/4 or 5+3.Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
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pohl4711
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
Interesting. Especially when you compare the Elo-difference between Stockfish 2.3.1 and Stockfish 3 in the IPON (+22 Elo) and the LS-ratinglist (+24 Elo)... And IPON is 5+3...Laskos wrote:This won't be +35 or +30 points, it's at bullet control. +15 is more reasonable to expect at 40/4 or 5+3.Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
Stefan
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Ajedrecista
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623.
Hello Stefan:
I also think that +35 Elo at this point may be a little overestimated due to bullet TC. However, please take a look to this web:
Stockfish foreign engines regression test
TC is 2' + 0.05"/move. At this moment, error bars are not larger than ± 7 Elo. Combining the rating and error bars of SF 3 and the latest tested compile there (Include file attacks in 'major on pawn'), the rating difference is more less 2793 - 2774 ± sqrt[(6.5)² + 7²] ~+19 ± 9.55 Elo. The pool of the engines is not very wide but also the TC can not be considered bullet.
@Vincent: the date release of SF 3 was on April, 30th. I think that SF 3 do not want to flood us with official releases. Of course, there are tons of autocompiles at abrok.eu. From LS rating list, I can deduce that the rating difference including error bars is more less 3054 - 3019 ± sqrt(5² + 5²) = +35 ± 5*sqrt(2) ~ +35 ± 7.07 Elo; probably the true rating difference falls in the lower region of the interval due to bullet TC, but it is just a weird guess.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
Thanks for your effort.pohl4711 wrote:Interesting. Especially when you compare the Elo-difference between Stockfish 2.3.1 and Stockfish 3 in the IPON (+22 Elo) and the LS-ratinglist (+24 Elo)... And IPON is 5+3...Laskos wrote:This won't be +35 or +30 points, it's at bullet control. +15 is more reasonable to expect at 40/4 or 5+3.Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
Stefan
I also think that +35 Elo at this point may be a little overestimated due to bullet TC. However, please take a look to this web:
Stockfish foreign engines regression test
TC is 2' + 0.05"/move. At this moment, error bars are not larger than ± 7 Elo. Combining the rating and error bars of SF 3 and the latest tested compile there (Include file attacks in 'major on pawn'), the rating difference is more less 2793 - 2774 ± sqrt[(6.5)² + 7²] ~+19 ± 9.55 Elo. The pool of the engines is not very wide but also the TC can not be considered bullet.
@Vincent: the date release of SF 3 was on April, 30th. I think that SF 3 do not want to flood us with official releases. Of course, there are tons of autocompiles at abrok.eu. From LS rating list, I can deduce that the rating difference including error bars is more less 3054 - 3019 ± sqrt(5² + 5²) = +35 ± 5*sqrt(2) ~ +35 ± 7.07 Elo; probably the true rating difference falls in the lower region of the interval due to bullet TC, but it is just a weird guess.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
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gladius
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Re: LS-ratinglist: Stockfish 130623
I hope it holds up a longer TC as wellpohl4711 wrote:Interesting. Especially when you compare the Elo-difference between Stockfish 2.3.1 and Stockfish 3 in the IPON (+22 Elo) and the LS-ratinglist (+24 Elo)... And IPON is 5+3...Laskos wrote:This won't be +35 or +30 points, it's at bullet control. +15 is more reasonable to expect at 40/4 or 5+3.Vinvin wrote:IMO, +30 Elo is enough to release a new official version of a freeware chess engine !
Stefan
ELO: 35.68 +-2.2 (95%) LOS: 100.0%
Total: 38318 W: 9849 L: 5928 D: 22541
Whereas, SF 3 vs SF 2.3.1 had:
ELO: 30.86 +-2.9 (95%) LOS: 100.0%
Total: 20000 W: 4493 L: 2721 D: 12786