nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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Stage 1 finished earlier today and 19 engines qualified for Stage 2. Originally, 18 engines would qualify but there was a pairing issue with ChessGUI that only worked OK if using an odd number of participants. So the total number of games will be 171 and the top 10 qualifies for Stage 3.

List of participants, single round robin:
3146 - Houdini 3
3098 - Stockfish 160913
3092 - Rybka 4.1
3084 - Komodo 1092
3072 - Critter 1.6a
3069 - Bouquet 1.8a
3063 - Gull 2.2
3051 - Equinox 2b
2979 - Hiarcs 14
2978 - Naum 4.5
2942 - Shredder 12
2921 - Spike 1.4
2913 - Junior 13.3
2889 - Spark 1
2857 - Toga II 140913
2834 - Onno 1.27
2830 - Tornado 5
2789 - Jonny 6
2702 - Exchess 7.15b

All information and rules:
http://www.tcec-chess.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=20

Live games + schedule and results:
http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Finished games in Stage 1:
http://tcec.chessdom.com/stage_1.php

Finished games in Stage 2 will appear here:
http://tcec.chessdom.com/stage_2.php

Hope to see you all there.

Thanks,
Martin
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Post by Matthias Gemuh »

For clarity:
the unfair pairings occur with single-cycle RR with even number of engines.
Odd-number-cycle RR in general with even number of engines may have the problem.

Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Re: nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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Standings after 8 rounds:

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Nr Engine           Pts    SB S G K B H R C N S S H S J E E T O T J 

 1 Stockfish 160913 5.5 23.25       1 1 =   1 1       = =           
 2 Gull 2.2         5.5 18.25     1       =     = =       1   1   1 
 3 Komodo 1092      5.5 17.50   0         1     1 1         1 1   = 
 4 Bouquet 1.8a     5.0 18.00 0       1 1   = =         1       1   
 5 Hiarcs 14        5.0 16.25 0     0     =     =   1 1   1       1 
 6 Rybka 4.1        4.5 16.25 =     0         1 =   = = = 1         
 7 Critter 1.6a     4.5 14.25   = 0   =     =     =         1 = 1   
 8 Naum 4.5         4.0 14.75 0     =     =     =   = 1 = =         
 9 Spike 1.4        4.0 13.75 0     =   0           1 1 = 1         
10 Shredder 12      4.0 13.50   = 0   = =   =               = = 1   
11 Houdini 3        4.0 11.00   = 0       =                 = 1 = 1 
12 Spark 1          4.0 10.75         0 =   = 0         1   = 1 =   
13 Jonny 6          3.5 10.25 =       0 =   0 0         =   1   1   
14 Equinox 2b       2.5 10.75 =     0   =   = =     0 =             
15 Exchess 7.15b    2.5  6.00   0     0 0   = 0             1 = =   
16 Toga II 140913   2.0  7.00     0       0     = = = 0   0       = 
17 Onno 1.27        2.0  6.50   0 0       =     = 0 0     =       = 
18 Tornado 5        2.0  6.25       0     0     0 = = 0   =       = 
19 Junior 13.3      2.0  5.75   0 =   0           0         = = =   
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Re: nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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Martin Thoresen wrote:Standings after 8 rounds:

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Nr Engine           Pts    SB S G K B H R C N S S H S J E E T O T J 

 1 Stockfish 160913 5.5 23.25       1 1 =   1 1       = =           
 2 Gull 2.2         5.5 18.25     1       =     = =       1   1   1 
 3 Komodo 1092      5.5 17.50   0         1     1 1         1 1   = 
 4 Bouquet 1.8a     5.0 18.00 0       1 1   = =         1       1   
 5 Hiarcs 14        5.0 16.25 0     0     =     =   1 1   1       1 
 6 Rybka 4.1        4.5 16.25 =     0         1 =   = = = 1         
 7 Critter 1.6a     4.5 14.25   = 0   =     =     =         1 = 1   
 8 Naum 4.5         4.0 14.75 0     =     =     =   = 1 = =         
 9 Spike 1.4        4.0 13.75 0     =   0           1 1 = 1         
10 Shredder 12      4.0 13.50   = 0   = =   =               = = 1   
11 Houdini 3        4.0 11.00   = 0       =                 = 1 = 1 
12 Spark 1          4.0 10.75         0 =   = 0         1   = 1 =   
13 Jonny 6          3.5 10.25 =       0 =   0 0         =   1   1   
14 Equinox 2b       2.5 10.75 =     0   =   = =     0 =             
15 Exchess 7.15b    2.5  6.00   0     0 0   = 0             1 = =   
16 Toga II 140913   2.0  7.00     0       0     = = = 0   0       = 
17 Onno 1.27        2.0  6.50   0 0       =     = 0 0     =       = 
18 Tornado 5        2.0  6.25       0     0     0 = = 0   =       = 
19 Junior 13.3      2.0  5.75   0 =   0           0         = = =   
So, Houdini has to start from 0, and show in the remaining 10 games that it will qualify into top 10 out of 19.
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Martin Thoresen wrote:3098 - Stockfish 160913
Hi Martin,

Actually, looking at the Stockfish Development Versions on http://www.abrok.eu/stockfish/
there are 3 versions on 160913, at different times:
at 08:57
at 09:07
at 23:59

Which one is used on Stage 2 ?
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Re: nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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Laskos wrote:So, Houdini has to start from 0, and show in the remaining 10 games that it will qualify into top 10 out of 19.
Actually, things are not so bleak for Houdini: already here, his score is above average.
And he will be White in a majority of his remaining games.
And today, his updated score is 5 (8 games played).
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ernest wrote: Hi Martin,

Actually, looking at the Stockfish Development Versions on http://www.abrok.eu/stockfish/
there are 3 versions on 160913, at different times:
at 08:57
at 09:07
at 23:59

Which one is used on Stage 2 ?
Hi Ernest,

Marco sent me the link to the binary, it was this link:
http://abrok.eu/stockfish/77b5ee0117e86 ... _sse42.exe

You can probably figure out which one of those 3 that is.

Best,
Martin
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Re: nTCEC - Stage 2 (Season 2) has started!

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Hello:
Martin Thoresen wrote:
ernest wrote: Hi Martin,

Actually, looking at the Stockfish Development Versions on http://www.abrok.eu/stockfish/
there are 3 versions on 160913, at different times:
at 08:57
at 09:07
at 23:59

Which one is used on Stage 2 ?
Hi Ernest,

Marco sent me the link to the binary, it was this link:
http://abrok.eu/stockfish/77b5ee0117e86 ... _sse42.exe

You can probably figure out which one of those 3 that is.

Best,
Martin
Thanks for the info. It is clear now:

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Author: Joona Kiiski
Date: Mon Sep 16 09:07:47 2013 +0200
Timestamp: 1379315267

Fix time parameters for blitz games

The ideal setting for super-blitz might be something like:

"Emergency Base Time" = 50
"Emergency Move Time" = 5

This would give a total emergency time buffer of:

50 + 40 * 5 = 250 ms

This setup replaces the previous half cooked hack
"Don't blunder under extreme time pressure".

Test results are very good at super blitz, but keep good even
at 60 secs.

At 5+0.05
ELO: 24.30 +-2.4 (95%) LOS: 100.0%
Total: 37802 W: 10060 L: 7420 D: 20322

At 15+0.05
ELO: 13.41 +-2.9 (95%) LOS: 100.0%
Total: 22271 W: 4853 L: 3994 D: 13424

At 60+0.05
ELO: 5.30 +-3.2 (95%) LOS: 99.9%
Total: 16000 W: 2897 L: 2653 D: 10450

No functional change. 
Thank you very much for nTCEC! :D Please keep up your good work.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
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ernest wrote:
Laskos wrote:So, Houdini has to start from 0, and show in the remaining 10 games that it will qualify into top 10 out of 19.
Actually, things are not so bleak for Houdini: already here, his score is above average.
And he will be White in a majority of his remaining games.
And today, his updated score is 5 (8 games played).
Yeah, I thought that Houdini played 8 games after 8 rounds in Martin's list, while it really had 4 out of 7 points. So, all the favourites are inside top 10.
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Martin Thoresen wrote:You can probably figure out which one of those 3 that is.
No problem, Martin (it's the 09:07 one, as Jesus also found out).

I want to thank you again for this tournament event, which is a big source of thought on today's state of computer chess.