Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

Games : 500

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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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After 45 games (of 500) the difference with SF14 is only 9 elo.

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    Gambit Rating List
    Running      : gauntlet Dragon 2.5 for the GRL 20 cores rating list
    Time Control : Time control : 40/120
    Games        : 500

       # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
       1 Stockfish 14           :  3605.1   359.0     509    71
       2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3596.0    30.5      45    68
       3 Komodo-Dragon 2        :  3533.4   299.5     500    60
       4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3437.2   223.5     509    44
       5 Koivisto 6.16          :  3429.9   217.5     509    43
       6 SlowChess 2.7          :  3421.4   210.5     509    41
       7 RubiChess 2.2          :  3414.0   204.5     509    40
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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Now 25 ELO. But yes we have a new number 2 engine!
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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Komodo-Dragon 2.5 +62

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Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Dragon 2.5 for the GRL 20 cores rating list
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 500

Results from file top5.pgn:

No. Name                 Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Stockfish 14        +227 =363  -10   *0  408.5   600   68.1%
  2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5   +194 =289  -17   *0  338.5   500   67.7%
  3 Komodo-Dragon 2     +137 =325  -38   *0  299.5   500   59.9%
  4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE  +60 =380 -160   *0  250.0   600   41.7%
  5 Koivisto 6.16        +65 =348 -187   *0  239.0   600   39.8%
  6 SlowChess 2.7        +52 =366 -182   *0  235.0   600   39.2%
  7 RubiChess 2.2        +46 =367 -187   *0  229.5   600   38.2%

Total Games:    2000
White Wins:      392 (19.6%)
Black Wins:      389 (19.4%)
Draws:          1219 (61.0%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3491 pool

   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 14           :  3608.5   408.5     600    68
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3595.6   338.5     500    68
   3 Komodo-Dragon 2        :  3533.5   299.5     500    60
   4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3437.4   250.0     600    42
   5 Koivisto 6.16          :  3425.6   239.0     600    40
   6 SlowChess 2.7          :  3421.2   235.0     600    39
   7 RubiChess 2.2          :  3415.2   229.5     600    38
Difference with SF14 only 13 elo :!:

Kudos to Mark and Larry.

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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Rebel wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:34 am Komodo-Dragon 2.5 +62

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Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Dragon 2.5 for the GRL 20 cores rating list
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 500

Results from file top5.pgn:

No. Name                 Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Stockfish 14        +227 =363  -10   *0  408.5   600   68.1%
  2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5   +194 =289  -17   *0  338.5   500   67.7%
  3 Komodo-Dragon 2     +137 =325  -38   *0  299.5   500   59.9%
  4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE  +60 =380 -160   *0  250.0   600   41.7%
  5 Koivisto 6.16        +65 =348 -187   *0  239.0   600   39.8%
  6 SlowChess 2.7        +52 =366 -182   *0  235.0   600   39.2%
  7 RubiChess 2.2        +46 =367 -187   *0  229.5   600   38.2%

Total Games:    2000
White Wins:      392 (19.6%)
Black Wins:      389 (19.4%)
Draws:          1219 (61.0%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3491 pool

   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 14           :  3608.5   408.5     600    68
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3595.6   338.5     500    68
   3 Komodo-Dragon 2        :  3533.5   299.5     500    60
   4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3437.4   250.0     600    42
   5 Koivisto 6.16          :  3425.6   239.0     600    40
   6 SlowChess 2.7          :  3421.2   235.0     600    39
   7 RubiChess 2.2          :  3415.2   229.5     600    38
Difference with SF14 only 13 elo :!:

Kudos to Mark and Larry.

Links -

. http://rebel13.nl/misc/gambit-rating-list.html#20
. https://www.facebook.com/Rebel-415274595331860
Thanks, Ed! My estimate for elo gain on four threads blitz was +60 elo, and gains usually drop with more threads, so I'm happy with +62 on 20 threads! And only -13 from SF14 is a nice surprise; it would appear that many threads favors Dragon. I don't know if you have a rating for Stockfish 13 under the same conditions, but I imagine it would be below Dragon 2.5. Anyway Dragon doesn't seem to have any problem with your Gambit openings!
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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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The last 13 elo points might disappear as snow for the sun on TCEC hardware and time control.

One core : -44

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   1 Stockfish 14           :  3693.5   19.7  3527.0    4500    78      93  2657  1740   103    39
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3649.0    6.3  1441.0    2000    72     100   986   910   104    46
20 cores : -13

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   1 Stockfish 14           :  3608.5   408.5     600    68
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3595.6   338.5     500    68
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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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In CCC 250(!) threads Dragon has just now in FRC blitz 51/72 and Lc0 42,5/72 :!: . Only 2 losses against SF.
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Re: Gambit Rating List - 20 cores - gauntlet Dragon 2.5

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Yes, on a high thread counts and FRC, my unscientific opinion is that Dragon has surpassed Stockfish.