Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Draude
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Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

Post by Draude »

Engine is a total DISASTER!!

https://www.abrok.eu/stockfish/
Author: Disservin
Date: Tue Mar 12 19:09:50 2024 +0100
Timestamp: 1710266990

This engine will never become my analysis engine. In the following position, Stockfish 120324 needs 92s on 12 cores to find Qxf6+ . This is the worst value of ALL Stockfishs in a year. It is worse than even Stockfish 070324, which took 48s on 8 cores. Sad. Stockfish 15 only takes 20s.

Qxf6+!
[d]1B1r4/rp2npkp/2b1pbp1/1qp5/nPN1R3/1P1P1QP1/2P2PBP/5R1K w - - 0 1


Analysis by Stockfish 120324-avx2:

1. Qxf6+ Kxf6 2. Be5+ Kg5 3. Bg7 Bxe4 4. f4+ Kh5 5. Bxe4 g5 6. Ne5 Qc6 7. g4+ Kh4 8. Bf6 h6 9. fxg5 Ng8 10. Bxd8 Qd6 11. gxh6+ Qxd8 12. Rg1 Kg5 13. Nxf7+ Kh4 14. h7 Nf6 15. Nxd8 Nxh7 16. Bxh7 Nc3 17. Nxe6

Depth: 42/65 00:01:32 973MN, tb=16065

Needed 92s. Crazy! :roll:

Analysis by SF-Cor 1Mar24-3072-avx2:

1.Qxf6+ Kxf6 2.Be5+ Kg5 3.Bg7 Bxe4 4.f4+ Kh5 5.Bxe4 g5 6.Ne5 Qc6 7.Bf6 h6 8.Bxe7 Qd5 9.Bxd8 Qxe5 10.fxe5 Nc3 11.bxc5 Nxe4 12.dxe4 Ra2 13.c6 bxc6 14.Rf2 g4 15.Kg2 Kg6 16.Bb6 h5 17.h3 Ra1 18.hxg4 hxg4 19.Rf6+ Kg7 20.Rf1 Ra2 21.Rf2 Kg6 22.b4 Ra1 23.Re2 c5 24.b5 Ra3
Depth: 25/52 00:00:05 53MN

SF-Cor 1Mar24-3072 finds the best move in 5s. Stockfish 120324 is a Disaster!

Also my NNUE 3072 (with corchess code and newest 3072-parameters) beat Stockfish 16.1 (NNUE 2560)!

Clearly, SF development is Regressing...
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:03 pm Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
It is just a troll who makes fun out the original thread. I have reported the post + account.

This is not E.N. just a parody on him, with a stupid anagram as user name. (Eduard Solista => 'Draude Stoalis')
I hope all of this is soon history...
https://rwbc-chess.de

[Trolls n'existent pas...]
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:03 pm Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
I don't know what you mean by that. For every version of Stockfish I do lots of testing and analyses from my test set. Unfortunately, in the last two months the quality of the new SF engine is almost ALWAYS dropping! I am frustrated! That's why I develop my own clones! I'm not the only one who does that.

About the new account: What proof, for what should I provide? Is this about me or about engines? I am frustrated by the engine programmers in this forum insulting me and my engines! I again ask you to stop comparing me to programmers and asking, what can you do? I'm always a practical person, and theoretical crap without practical evidence is not my thing. I published my engines, you can run your own tests on it and tell me your result!
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Guenther wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:09 pm
Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:03 pm Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
It is just a troll who makes fun out the original thread. I have reported the post + account.

This is not E.N. just a parody on him, with a stupid anagram as user name. (Eduard Solista => 'Draude Stoalis')
I hope all of this is soon history...
I was secretly hoping it would be a troll, I was not disappointed :)
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:17 pm
Guenther wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:09 pm
Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:03 pm Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
It is just a troll who makes fun out the original thread. I have reported the post + account.

This is not E.N. just a parody on him, with a stupid anagram as user name. (Eduard Solista => 'Draude Stoalis')
I hope all of this is soon history...
I was secretly hoping it would be a troll, I was not disappointed :)
Draude
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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Guenther wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:09 pm
Pali wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:03 pm Is there a particular reason you took your previous post "Stockfish 070324 is a Disaster" almost verbatim?
Also is there any particular reason you made a new account to make this post?
It is just a troll who makes fun out the original thread. I have reported the post + account.

This is not E.N. just a parody on him, with a stupid anagram as user name. (Eduard Solista => 'Draude Stoalis')
I hope all of this is soon history...
Once again I am disappointed. After being kicked from the SF discord for sharing my work, I am being reported on the forums for showing you my testing process! But you obviously don't care about objective things (otherwise you would test first before you accuse that I am not serious). Don't you understand? It is not about me. Test everything and then compare it and then write here that I'm showing crap. Please not before, thank you!
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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I was also believing in a parody, maybe a little bit too subtle for average talkchess reader.

But if this is REALLY Ede who created a new account repeating the old nonsense then...
Go Ede! I believe in you. You made it at several places but getting banned from talkchess would be your master piece.
Draude
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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RubiChess wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:25 pm I was also believing in a parody, maybe a little bit too subtle for average talkchess reader.

But if this is REALLY Ede who created a new account repeating the old nonsense then...
Go Ede! I believe in you. You made it at several places but getting banned from talkchess would be your master piece.
I haven't insulted anyone personally, but I am always being insulted by developers on Discord and the chess forum. But I'm always the one to blame, even though I'm often insulted myself. That's not OK, but well, I can live with it.

I have not been banned from talkchess. Why? Because I am a real engine developer and I make my engines better than SF. My engines are used by correspondence players for their real game play. Great! For everyone else: celebrate Stockfish dev, you are free to do so.

I hope people wouldn't say I just talk and don't do anything. Thank you! 8-)
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Re: Stockfish 120324 a Disaster

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What's going on here in the forum now is crazy. An account called Draude simulates me. I ask the moderator to delete such an account.
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