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Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

I started for an hour the test-run for Tcheran 11.
All 16 matches hangs for the reasons, time to end.

In all 16 matches I can see 4 or 5-pieces on the board.
I can start a new game with Shredder GUI, so not the GUI crashed, only lost on time games.

Test-run not possible without resign-mode.

Best
Frank
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Damir »

Hi Frank,
You have to click on Enable WeirdTimeControls in Engine Parameters. It must be ON.
If it isn't, it will cause the engine to not respond.
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Damir,

I can see three UCI paramters:

- Threads
- Move Overhead
- SyzygyPath

Best
Frank

I think it have to do with syzygy 5-pieces if many matches runs to the same time (in my case 16) and all have access to the same syzygy directory. I start on an other PC test-games with ucidebug = on. Later ...
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

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Code: Select all

### unknown info token "wdl" sent
### unknown info token "1000" sent
### unknown info token "0" sent
### unknown info token "0" sent
 26/51	 0:01 	 +M4 	86.c6+ Kd8 87.c7+ Kd7 88.c8Q+ Ke7 89.Qce8+ (3.560.942) 2234  TB:1.646.828
### from Tcheran 11.0 (0): info depth 26 seldepth 51 score mate 4 wdl 1000 0 0 time 1593 nodes 3560942 nps 2234180 hashfull 39 tbhits 1646828 pv c5c6 d7d8 c6c7 d8d7 c7c8q d7e7 c8e8

### unknown info token "wdl" sent
### unknown info token "1000" sent
### unknown info token "0" sent
### unknown info token "0" sent
 26/51	 0:01 	 +M4 	86.c6+ Kd8 87.c7+ Kd7 88.c8Q+ Ke7 89.Qce8+ (3.560.942) 2234  TB:1.646.828
### from Tcheran 11.0 (0): bestmove c5c6

best move: c5-c6 time: 0:01.594 min  n/s: 2.234.180  nodes: 3.560.942 TB: 1.646.828 
### 553.: to Tcheran 11.0 (0): position startpos moves e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 g8f6 d2d3 f8e7 e1g1 e8g8 c2c3 d7d6 c4b3 d6d5 e4d5 f6d5 h2h3 c8f5 f1e1 e7f6 f3h2 d5b6 h2g4 f5g6 b3c2 g8h8 g4f6 g7f6 d1f3 f6f5 b1a3 a7a5 d3d4 e5e4 f3g3 f8g8 g3g5 f7f6 g5h4 a5a4 c2d1 g6f7 g1h1 d8e7 a3c2 f7c4 c1h6 b6d5 c2e3 d5e3 e1e3 e7d6 h6f4 d6f8 f2f3 c6e7 f3e4 f5e4 d1g4 e7g6 h4f2 g6f4 f2f4 f8g7 f4e4 g7g5 a1e1 c4a2 e4c2 b7b5 e3e7 g8g7 e7g7 g5g7 c2f5 a2c4 g4f3 a8g8 f5c5 g7g3 e1e7 g8g7 e7g7 g3g7 h1h2 c4d3 f3d5 d3e2 h2g1 e2d3 g1f2 d
### 554.: to Tcheran 11.0 (0): go wtime 36576 btime 20792 winc 2000 binc 2000

### from Tcheran 11.0 (0): panic occurred: "called `Option::unwrap()` on a `None` value" PanicHookInfo { payload: Any { .. }, location: Location { file: "engine\\src\\chess\\board.rs", line: 107, column: 31 }, can_unw...
##### Unknown token: panic
I can produce the mistake on Intel i9-10900k hardware.
For ETOC-G I am using an AMD-5950x system.

Same OS = Windows 11.
Same GUI = Shredder 12.

Now I have to look in Caligula 7 release version.
Also here it seems I have a problem ... later!
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by cpeters »

Hello Frank!


The bug you've encountered might be related to this:
https://github.com/tcheran-chess/tchera ... 87d01b9e76

Which begs the question what version you are using in your tournament: the re-released 11 (from 16.2.2026) or an older one?

Please see:
https://github.com/tcheran-chess/tchera ... /tag/v11.0
for more info.

greetings
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Christian,

I am using the release 11.0 ... but it is from 14.02.2026.
16.02.2026?

Hm, let me look on GitHub ...
16.02.2026!

Shit ...
What I am using is: v3
TimeStamp: 698F320Ch -> 13/02/2026 15:15:40

I donwload Tcheran again: v3
TimeStamp: 699352C5h -> 16/02/2026 18:24:21

TimeStamp: I am looking with Total-Commander and PlugIn: wlx_fileinfo

Shit, shit, shit ...
Not saw that, normaly I gave in my engine overview a hint, if I saw such things and wrote the date to the version nummer.
Example: 4k.c ... two versions 8.0 are available.

I will check that again with the newer Tcheran 11.0 from February 16th, 2026.

Thank you for your hint!!
Probably, your message solved my problem if the programmer fixed bug in version 11.0 from February 16th, 2026.

Best
Frank
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Christian, you are great ...

:-)
Thank you again!

Problem solved I think.
On i9-10900k test-system a 50 games match is running vs. Wasp 7.0.0
With v3 from 260216.

All works fine, not for Wasp 7.0.0 but for Tcheran 11.0.
Again much stronger, I like Tcheran a lot.
It seems Tcheran 11.0 runs now without any problems.

So I will start the Tcheran 11 test again in 2 days.
I config the next two test-runs, so Tcheran 11 have to wait 2 days.
In the morning I replaced Tcheran 11.0 with PlentyChess 7.0.37 Pre.

PlentyChess filled the gap from the morning and plays very nice games.
I am looking so far, but I have to search now the problem I have with Caligula 7.0.

:-)

https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_engines.htm
What I do can be follow on my start site, the engine overview.

Best
Frank
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by jgilchrist »

Frank Quisinsky wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 10:55 pm Problem solved I think.
I'm very sorry for the confusion!
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Re: Tcheran 11.0 bug ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

All is super ...
I am the master of desaster!

Thank you for your engine!