Impressive - Star Beryl finds Marshall Levitsky Queen sac

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Georg Langrath

Re: I have killed my Star Beryl Plus. Unfortunately.

Post by Georg Langrath »

fern wrote:The Elders has known of your murder and has condemned you to a harsh punishment that will be materialized by Shach Polizei any moment from now on.
Nevertheless, you still can avoid death just sending me the MMII you mentioned.

Time is running regards
fernando
I am prepared to bear my punishment. I deserve it. I regret my crime. You see, I love my MMll. I realize that you only wanted to save the life of MMll. No danger. I can see that display without problem. In fact, one of the best displays I have ever seen.

Your regretful Georg
nczempin

Re: I have killed my Star Beryl Plus. Unfortunately.

Post by nczempin »

So where did you get the 4k from?

BTW it wouldn't make much sense to give out a "4k crown", because there are large differences in MIPS rating.

For example, I'm playing with (planning to write a chess program for it) an Ubicom SX28 (xgamestation Pico), which runs at 80 MHz, with 2k of Flash (and 126 bytes of RAM). The bigger brother SX52 has 4k of Flash.
nczempin

Re: Impressive - Star Beryl finds Marshall Levitsky Queen sa

Post by nczempin »

Steve B wrote:
nczempin wrote:
JonP01 wrote: I was amazed, however, to find that Star Beryl solved this position in a mere 12 seconds! Yes, that's 12 seconds for a mere 4K program running on an incredibly modest processor that can't even hope to compete with a 6301Y, let alone a 6502 :shock:
Out of sheer curiosity, what processor does it run on?
it is not so clear exactly the processor
it is a single chip but Novag does not say which single chip processor

since Novag likes to utilize the H8 processor my guess would be a single chip H8
http://www.novag.com/Web%202006/USA-CAN ... able-E.htm


as i have now received a Star Beryl from a dear friend as a gift i will do intensive and exhaustive analysis of the computer
in the next weeks

Steve B(eryl) Regards
Steve
"CISC (Compact Instruction Set Chip) is a technique which can considerably increase the speed of micro processors. CISC chips are particularly suited to chess programs as they can add ELO points to the strength of a computer"

That is so funny.
Robert Weck
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Re: Impressive - Star Beryl finds Marshall Levitsky Queen sa

Post by Robert Weck »

Hi Jonathan,
JonP01 wrote: One of the things I intend to get around to is a 10 game match at 40 moves in 2 hours with the Mephisto II I won on eBay.
What Mephisto II? :wink:
I expect Mephisto II to convincingly win the match, however I expect the little Beryl to give MII some scary moments with it' surprisingly fast tactical selective search and tricky little openings book.
Sounds interesting!
How much do these Star Beryls cost in Germany out of curiosity?
70 Euro is the normal price.
PS: Beryl really needs about 45 seconds per move minimum to play decent, passable chess - but unlike most chess computers, it benefits much more from the full 3 minutes.
That's not so good for me, as i prefer Active chess...


Robert
JonP01

Re: Impressive - Star Beryl finds Marshall Levitsky Queen sa

Post by JonP01 »

Hi Robert,

I thought if the price was crazy up there in Europe I could buy one here and ship it to you. But it turns out the Europe shop price is within $5 of the Australian shop price :?

Yes, Beryl is not at all a good choice for active chess, but then again, nor is the 16K Carnelian II / Star Opal. It takes a Star Ruby or higher in Novag's current range for strong active chess. On the other hand, it's nice to see a computer that seems to enjoy a linear improvement in playing strength the longer it thinks for.

For people like me who only run 40/2 tournaments, the above issue is not too much of a problem though.

What I now would like Novag to do is release this same program in a Deluxe model - perhaps the 2007 equivalent of the ultra-rare Novag Solo Deluxe :wink: Or, ANY other housing to be honest - anything to get around the unreadable dsiplay issue (which some people might consider quaint, but I consider to be a pain in the derriere :x )
Terry McCracken

Re: Impressive - Star Beryl finds Marshall Levitsky Queen sa

Post by Terry McCracken »

nczempin wrote:
Steve B wrote:
nczempin wrote:
JonP01 wrote: I was amazed, however, to find that Star Beryl solved this position in a mere 12 seconds! Yes, that's 12 seconds for a mere 4K program running on an incredibly modest processor that can't even hope to compete with a 6301Y, let alone a 6502 :shock:
Out of sheer curiosity, what processor does it run on?
it is not so clear exactly the processor
it is a single chip but Novag does not say which single chip processor

since Novag likes to utilize the H8 processor my guess would be a single chip H8
http://www.novag.com/Web%202006/USA-CAN ... able-E.htm


as i have now received a Star Beryl from a dear friend as a gift i will do intensive and exhaustive analysis of the computer
in the next weeks

Steve B(eryl) Regards
Steve
"CISC (Compact Instruction Set Chip) is a technique which can considerably increase the speed of micro processors. CISC chips are particularly suited to chess programs as they can add ELO points to the strength of a computer"

That is so funny.
What's even funnier is CISC stands for Complex Instruction Set Chip, not Compact :o :lol: