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I agree with this, and being as it seems a "soft" derivative it's not bound by any existing license too.Michael Sherwin wrote:Strelka 1.8 is a derivitive of Fruit and Rybka and is not a clone!
Only if that knowledge is original. If I decode Rybka and discover that a night is worth 3 pawns then nothing was stolen.CRoberson wrote:You miss the point.
Decoding a binary and taking knowledge out of it is theft unless
permission is given.
But, Romi and Hamsters are cousins, and families should share!Alessandro Scotti wrote:I agree with this, and being as it seems a "soft" derivative it's not bound by any existing license too.Michael Sherwin wrote:Strelka 1.8 is a derivitive of Fruit and Rybka and is not a clone!
Of course in case Strelka's author needs a third expert to check his sources I reluctantly volunteer!
Edit: and I said it first!
It's not theft at all. And even if explicitly prohibited, the law might grant exceptions in some cases (e.g. in many countries you can reverse engineer a product in order to gain enough knowledge about it and write - from scratch! - a competing product).CRoberson wrote:Decoding a binary and taking knowledge out of it is theft unless permission is given.
Maybe it would be nice to file/generate "bloodlines" and family trees of chess engines and their ancestry in the future.But, Romi and Hamsters are cousins, and families should share!
In most legal systems everything is allowed that is not expressly forbidden.Alessandro Scotti wrote:It's not theft at all. And even if explicitly prohibited, the law might grant exceptions in some cases (e.g. in many countries you can reverse engineer a product in order to gain enough knowledge about it and write - from scratch! - a competing product).CRoberson wrote:Decoding a binary and taking knowledge out of it is theft unless permission is given.
hgm wrote: In most legal systems everything is allowed that is not expressly forbidden.
hgm wrote:I don't know where you get these ideas, it seems to me that you are just making this up.
An except of copyright law was just posted here in one of these recent threads, which clearly stated that in many countries disassembly of source in order to learn about the algorithm is explicitly allowed by law, even if the holder of the copyright explicitly forbids it.
No! Kindly show us exactly what you have found and very precisely where. Please don't just point to huge websites and tell us to Google ourselves.....there are so many links, search your yoursef (google is your friend)