Questions regarding the Election and Nomination Process

[Graham Banks]

IF we are both elected i think there will be several things that will have to change
Steve

I'm sure that the voters would love to know what you mean with this statement Steve.

Also the votes in the forthcoming election could well tell you a different story. Perhaps the great majority of members are happy with the way things are.

Besides, a moderation team discusses their policies and modus operandi after the election to decide how things are going to be.
It is not up to one mod to dictate to the others how things are going to happen.

Regards, Graham.

[Steve B]

IF we are both elected i think there will be several things that will have to change
Steve

I'm sure that the voters would love to know what you mean with this statement Steve.

Also the votes in the forthcoming election could well tell you a different story. Perhaps the great majority of members are happy with the way things are.

Besides, a moderation team discusses their policies and modus operandi after the election to decide how things are going to be.
It is not up to one mod to dictate to the others how things are going to happen.

Regards, Graham.

yes of course the team must decide together
and if you and i are elected on the same team i think the members will wonder how we can get along together for the good of the board and i think to do that we are going to have to agree to do things as a team a bit differently then they are done now
thats what i meant by a change

i am surprised Graham you thought i meant i would dictate terms

you are going to have to be more trusting then that if we are both elected

i will be making my moderation policy quite clear in my statement in Turners thread

you could be right that many would be happy with seeing the same moderator for what would be 3 terms if you are reelected and what would amount to more then 4 years of moderation from the same person

its a pity that the Founding fathers of the CCC did not foresee this would happen or they would have imposed term limits on mods i think

personally i think its good for the board to have new mods certainly after close to 3 years with the same mod and the possibility of another 2 more years

Hyatt and Skinner and myself on the ballot certainly does not look like a very strong vote of confidence for you and Swami

and i can assure you....i certainly did not nominate myself and i doubt either Hyatt or Skinner would either.. like it appears you and Swami did

Steve

[Graham Banks]

yes of course the team must decide together
and if you and i are elected on the same team i think the members will wonder how we can get along together for the good of the board

It's certainly looking that way, but you can be assured that I have never had anything against you.
This orchestrated campaign against me after I moderated you in the following thread came as quite a surprise to be honest.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15295

However, if we were both elected, we'd need to put all that to one side and work together as part of an effective team.

i will be making my moderation policy quite clear in my statement in Turners thread

I would hope that all nominees do likewise.

you could be right that many would be happy with seeing the same moderator for what would be 3 terms if you are reelected and what would amount to more then 4 years of moderation from the same person

its a pity that the Founding fathers of the CCC did not foresee this would happen or they would have imposed term limits on mods i think

personally i think its good for the board to have new mods certainly after close to 3 years with the same mod and the possibility of another 2 more years

This is my second moderation term and I believe it will be two years in total since I was first elected, so I'm not sure where you get the 3-4 years+ from.
Mike Byrne served three terms, so a precedent has been set.
Besides, the election process here is a democratic process, so surely the members should get to speak their mind.

Hyatt and Skinner and myself on the ballot certainly does not look like a very strong vote of confidence for you and Swami

Peter and I actually get on well and he has assured me that he is not part of the orchestrated campaign to discredit me.
I have no reason to believe that he is being two-faced.

and i can assure you....i certainly did not nominate myself and i doubt either Hyatt or Skinner would either.. like it appears you and Swami did

Steve

I can assure you that I did not nominate myself as you should be able to see in the following thread.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15694

Anything else you'd like to say to try and cast a slur on me?

I find it really distasteful and sad that after putting so much time into trying to make CCC a respectful place, that I should face all this sort of stuff.

Regards, Graham.

[mclane]

guys. as one of the "founding fathers"

i would like you to be nice to each other

graham and steve, you are both valuable members of the computerchess scene.

i would like to see you together in friendship working on something in a team. not against each other.

its ONE big community here.
i very much enjoyed CCC and CTF.
it was made for social interactions and posting informations concerning computerchess.
it is a good thing.
and i hope it will all continue.

[Graham Banks]

i would like to see you together in friendship working on something in a team. not against each other.

So would I if that situation was to occur.
Please be aware that I've only been responding to some pretty strange questions and innuendos here though.

Regards, Graham.

[Daniel Mehrmann]

I find it really distasteful and sad that after putting so much time into trying to make CCC a respectful place, that I should face all this sort of stuff.

Regards, Graham.[/i]

I must agree Graham. I think Graham doing a good job so far. So far as i know from my experince as CSS moderator this job is sometimes not easy and CCC is much bigger then CSS.

Also we have a different view in the Strelka case, i accept him anyway anytime as human and moderator. So, this is how a moderator should work.

However, Steve it would be better if you would start making advertisement about yourself instead of try to put Graham in a bad light.

A moderator must work for the users and nothing else

Best,
Daniel

[Steve B]

This orchestrated campaign against me after I moderated you in the following thread came as quite a surprise to be honest.

as far as any orchestrated campaign against you..
i have told you once and i will mention to you again i have had nothing to do with any campaign against you(not that one exists except in your imagination)

for you to keep implying that i am somehow a part of some campaign against you is nothing more then sheer paranoia on your part

This is my second moderation term and I believe it will be two years in total since I was first elected, so I'm not sure where you get the 3-4 years+ from..

you are currently serving your second term now and if you are elected yet again it will make 3 terms..chances are we will not see elections for more then a year so it would be close to 4 years that you would have served overall

Mike Byrne served three terms, so a precedent has been set.

you Sir ..are no Mike Byrne

Peter and I actually get on well and he has assured me that he is not part of the orchestrated campaign to discredit me.
I have no reason to believe that he is being two-faced

well there you go again with this paranoia of yours
and of course i never implied Peter is for or against you or that he is two faced
i simply see Peters nomination and mine and Hyatt's as opposed somewhat in opposition to your moderation philosophy
not that we are running as a team because we are not and i have not communicated with either of them about the elections
i could be wrong about that but thats how i view it

Regards
Steve

[Graham Banks]

as far as any orchestrated campaign against you..
i have told you once and i will mention to you again i have had nothing to do with any campaign against you(not that one exists except in your imagination)

Regards
Steve

I'll leave that for others to decide, but I will say that there is much evidence in CCC and it was also confirmed to me by two very reliable sources.

Regardless of that, I'd like nothing better than to let bygones be bygones and call a truce. What do you say?

And be assured - I have absolutely nothing to hide as per my answers to your (dare I say it) paranoic concerns.

Regards, Graham.

[Murat]

All the CCC and CTF mods can see who is viewing the forum, whether they choose to remain hidden or otherwise.

Regards, Graham.[/i]

Why the moderators are allowed to see IP numbers of members not logged in to post but simply browsing to read messages?

This privilege should be available only for the administrators.

I personally am not comfortable showing my personal info to the admin who may or may not be using real name and potentially use this data for abuse.

It seems admins here have too much power without the accountability.

This I would like to see changed as soon as possible.

Good luck to all in the upcoming elections.

Murat :.

[Graham Banks]

Why the moderators are allowed to see IP numbers of members not logged in to post but simply browsing to read messages?

Murat :.

Hi Murat,

there have been problems from time to time with duplicate accounts posting from the same IP address.
Of course there are ways around this, but there are also other means of tracing people.
Most members are genuine, but there are a select few that like to go under several different names and who try to hide the fact that they're doing so, more often than not through using proxy servers.

Regards, Graham.