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Polls in the Help and Suggestions subforum

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I think that it's important for the membership to show the new moderation team their views on several contentious issues.

I've started polls in the Help and Suggestions subforum asking for your stance on three issues:

- editing threads
- locking threads
- removing threads

Please take a moment to register your votes.
As a new moderator, knowing how the majority of the members feel about such issues can only be helpful when deciding upon your policies.
Steve B

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Graham Banks wrote:I think that it's important for the membership to show the new moderation team their views on several contentious issues.

I've started polls in the Help and Suggestions subforum asking for your stance on three issues:

- editing threads
- locking threads
- removing threads

Please take a moment to register your votes.
As a new moderator, knowing how the majority of the members feel about such issues can only be helpful when deciding upon your policies.

hi Graham
for the record

no matter how this poll turns out

moderating by the results of the current poll of the day i think is not a wise decision

polls typically do not represent the majority of members views
but only the views of those few that vote in them

how many of the close to 1000 registered members do you think will vote in this one?

50 perhaps 100?

furthermore ,the results of a poll can be dramatically different today then say if it is held a month from today(members on vacation ,personal issues keeping them away from logging on etc)

so do we then abruptly switch moderation policy to accommodate the result of the new poll?

would you do away with the charter if a current poll showed 51%(38 votes) voting to do away with it and 49%(37) votes voting to keep it?

but if you must hold a poll...
please include this poll as well

should moderation policy be the result of poll results?

:P Regards
Steve
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Steve B wrote: polls typically do not represent the majority of members views
but only the views of those few that vote in them

how many of the close to 1000 registered members do you think will vote in this one?

50 perhaps 100?
The ones who care enough will vote.
Steve B wrote:furthermore ,the results of a poll can be dramatically different today then say if it is held a month from today(members on vacation ,personal issues keeping them away from logging on etc)

so do we then abruptly switch moderation policy to accommodate the result of the new poll?
If the results are overwhelming one way or the other, the moderators should certainly take note, especially where the moderators hold opposing views to each other
Steve B wrote:would you do away with the charter if a current poll showed 51%(38 votes) voting to do away with it and 49%(37) votes voting to keep it?
That's a silly question. The charter is there for a purpose.
Steve B wrote:but if you must hold a poll...
please include this poll as well

should moderation policy be the result of poll results?

:P Regards
Steve
I'll let you do that one! :P
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Graham Banks wrote:
That's a silly question. The charter is there for a purpose.
I'm not sure....make a poll about it..........

:?

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
That's a silly question. The charter is there for a purpose.
I'm not sure....make a poll about it..........

:?

Christopher
I'm only trying to gather some useful information here Christopher.
In fact, the results could well cause me to rethink how I do things as a moderator.
If I don't get re-elected, the results could also be of use to those who are.

Those who don't like it shouldn't try to turn the place into a circus. :wink:

Regards, Graham.
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Graham Banks wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
That's a silly question. The charter is there for a purpose.
I'm not sure....make a poll about it..........

:?

Christopher
I'm only trying to gather some useful information here Christopher.
In fact, the results could well cause me to rethink how I do things as a moderator.
If I don't get re-elected, the results could also be of use to those who are.

Those who don't like it shouldn't try to turn the place into a circus. :wink:

Regards, Graham.
What's to rethink?

It does not work now....and you need a poll to help you decide what to do?

Pull the other one its got bells on it.....

Just practise what Bob said ok?
Steve B

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Graham Banks wrote:
Steve B wrote: polls typically do not represent the majority of members views
but only the views of those few that vote in them

how many of the close to 1000 registered members do you think will vote in this one?

50 perhaps 100?
The ones who care enough will vote.
Steve B wrote:furthermore ,the results of a poll can be dramatically different today then say if it is held a month from today(members on vacation ,personal issues keeping them away from logging on etc)

so do we then abruptly switch moderation policy to accommodate the result of the new poll?
If the results are overwhelming one way or the other, the moderators should certainly take note, especially where the moderators hold opposing views to each other
Steve B wrote:would you do away with the charter if a current poll showed 51%(38 votes) voting to do away with it and 49%(37) votes voting to keep it?
That's a silly question. The charter is there for a purpose.
Steve B wrote:but if you must hold a poll...
please include this poll as well

should moderation policy be the result of poll results?

:P Regards
Steve
I'll let you do that one! :P
surely Graham even you can see the difference between a poll offered by an independent testing body then one given by someone seeking reelection and hoping to make some kind of point

i can argue that the majority of people voting will be the ones agreeing with your views on this and ones disagreeing will not vote merely because you are holding the poll


polls that are held by independent groups with no particular ax to grind are held in fair greater respect and taken far more seriously then ones given by special interest groups or the candidates themselves

i think the time honored system of each candidate making a statement detailing where he stands on the issues together with a summary of his moderation policy is a straight forward enough approach
the voters then choose who they agree with and vote accordingly


i see no need to change the way it has been done for a decade now

not sure why you do now

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Christopher Conkie wrote: What's to rethink?

It does not work now....and you need a poll to help you decide what to do?

Pull the other one its got bells on it.....

Just practise what Bob said ok?
I prefer to listen to what the majority of those who care have to say.
The polls will decide whether or not members are happy with my style of moderating, not a vocal few.
However, as I stated, I'm prepared to rethink my views if necessary.

Regards, Graham.
Steve B

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Graham Banks wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote: What's to rethink?

It does not work now....and you need a poll to help you decide what to do?

Pull the other one its got bells on it.....

Just practise what Bob said ok?
I prefer to listen to what the majority of those who care have to say.
The polls will decide whether or not members are happy with my style of moderating, not a vocal few.
However, as I stated, I'm prepared to rethink my views if necessary.

Regards, Graham.
you mean the vote in the election will decide that ..right?

surely you dont think a poll offered by you is a mandate for what other mods must do?

Steve
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Re: Polls in the Help and Suggestions subforum

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Graham Banks wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote: What's to rethink?

It does not work now....and you need a poll to help you decide what to do?

Pull the other one its got bells on it.....

Just practise what Bob said ok?
I prefer to listen to what the majority of those who care have to say.
The polls will decide whether or not members are happy with my style of moderating, not a vocal few.
However, as I stated, I'm prepared to rethink my views if necessary.

Regards, Graham.
You should listen to people who know what they are talking about.

I'm going to tell you a fact.

In nearly 6 years there have been 4 threads deleted at the Arena Forum and not one post has ever been edited.
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