Reasons of the crisis...

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Dan Honeycutt
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Re: Reasons of the crisis...

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mongrel wrote:O.K., I'll mention one- an obvious example: Dr. Hyatt. Which of the youngsters could replace him?
Tord.

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Ryan Benitez
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Re: Reasons of the crisis... : some are evident !

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I know I was not the one asked but I can give a link to something that does provide what I think you may be looking for.

http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html

Using the chat you can talk live with people that have great knowledge about computer chess and have many interesting things to talk about. Most times of the day I know of the chat is active. It is not uncommon for ideas base on discussion on tlcv servers to lead to improvements in the chess software I am working on. For some reason new ideas on the programming side of things does seem to be discussed much less on the forums than it had been in years past. I don’t know why and as some who is not a philosopher I am unlikely to find out why any time soon.

Ryan
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Hi Dan, thanks for your (always) sober remarks, even if we disagree in
some points. I know that here are some people whose only hobby is to
read and write into CCC. I really did not want to hurt their feelings and
belittle their passion.
I'm glad to hear that many of you think that it's all right with CCC and
computer chess will continue to prosper.
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Ryan Benitez wrote:I know I was not the one asked but I can give a link to something that does provide what I think you may be looking for.

http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/tlcv.html

Using the chat you can talk live with people that have great knowledge about computer chess and have many interesting things to talk about. Most times of the day I know of the chat is active. It is not uncommon for ideas base on discussion on tlcv servers to lead to improvements in the chess software I am working on. For some reason new ideas on the programming side of things does seem to be discussed much less on the forums than it had been in years past. I don’t know why and as some who is not a philosopher I am unlikely to find out why any time soon.

Ryan
Thanks Ryan,

hopefully this will be of great use to some members.
I think it's good to be aware of other worthwhile computer chess sites to visit.

Regards, Graham.
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Uri Blass wrote:Thanks

I found versions 294 and 296 but it seems that I did not save the code with version 295

Uri
I mailed a copy of 295 back to you.
If you want to examine your changes, I highly recommend winmerge:
http://winmerge.org/
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mschribr wrote: I think years ago an interesting topic would be who is stronger the world champion or a computer. Or who is better a deep blue or a PC? Today this would get immediately removed by the moderators as being controversial and flaming. Yet this topic debated civilly is an interesting and valid part of computer chess
Mark
I don't think you'll find a problem with such a question being debated civilly as you put it.
Try it.

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Re: Reasons of the crisis... : some are evident !

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mschribr wrote: It seems the banality of talkchess will not change.
Mark
Nor the banality of the constant attacks on moderators it would seem.
I hope that some of you get over the election results as soon as possible and start contributing to make CCC the more interesting place that you'd like it to be.
The elections were a democratic process and the results reflect the wishes of the active members.

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Re: Reasons of the crisis... : some are evident !

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sandro Necchi wrote: 5. For people like me it is not interesting to post here because most of the time we would be attacked with superficial analysis and is not interesting to to try to explain things to people which are not willing to lesson as they feel they already know everything and that they think you are making marketing or things like that. I really have no time for those people and a lot less patient than I had before...
Of course anybody can say anything they want, but too often some people thought that using big words would have give them "the truth". This behavior and the non protection of the moderators of these people (I am referring to programmers mainly and people who have many years experience in this field) have moved away those people from this field as by writing thigs one could be easily insulted or asked to defend himsel...for what?
I still like to discuss about chess and computer chess as well as new ideas and so on, but with friends...advantages/disadvantages and reason...or possibly experience behind new ideas or old one reconsidered in a different way.
Luckily everybody can still learn something everyday providing that is willing to lesson, keep the mind open and reconsider everything. This is something fashinating with chess and computer chess!
Hi Sandro,

it would be good to have you post more often, as you have a lot to offer CCC.
I'm disappointed that you feel that certain members are "protected".
I'm quite happy to discuss this via pm if you wish.

Regards, Graham.
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Re: Reasons of the crisis...

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Dann Corbit wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:Thanks

I found versions 294 and 296 but it seems that I did not save the code with version 295

Uri
I mailed a copy of 295 back to you.
If you want to examine your changes, I highly recommend winmerge:
http://winmerge.org/
Thanks

I do not plan to use winmerge because there are too many changes from 295 to latest version and I plan only to look at specific variables that are related to pruning decisions based on history to see exactly what I did with them in version 295 because maybe similiar things can help also to the latest version.

Uri
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Re: Reasons of the crisis... : some are evident !

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Marc Lacrosse wrote:I belong to the group of those who feel less and less happy with the present evolution of CCC.

For what regards myself, the main concern is the lack of substantial content in a growing proportion of posts.
Don't forget this CCC group is about highly informed people, meaning to say that during time there is less and less interesting to discuss, in a way (almost) everything has been said. Unless something new happens, the Strelka issue comes to mind.

To make the forum more lively you need new issues, try to invent them, it won't be easy. So what's happening is quite logical. It happened to me first with CCC, then with CTF, bored and saturated with both of them, because in my perspective everything has been said.

Just my observation.

I am now trying the programmers forum.... :wink:

Ed