Sjeng 2.7 released
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Tony Thomas
Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
By the way, we shall see if the new version lives up to the claims.
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chessfurby
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
They have Ryb on their HDD which turns them instantly into Gods ...
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
I agree here Tony,it's not a correct approach....Tony Thomas wrote:I wonder how people come to the conclusion that it isnt grandmaster strength by playing two games against the strongest ever free engine.
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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AdminX
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
I played three games versus Hiarcs 11.2sp and did not find it's play bad at all. In fact I thought it was human like. Three games may not tell you alot about strength but you can get a idea about how well the engine plays in general. Fact is I don't care if it is the strongest engine out there or not, so long as it can play a good game of chess.Played two quick Blitzgames on my A64 X2. Not exactly above Super Grandmaster level and not very humanlike either...
Conditions:
Pentium M 1.73GHZ
2 Gigs or Ram
128MB Hash Tables
Ponder Off
Both Engines Only used their Own Books
4,5,and 6 Men Tablebases
[Event "TEDWINLT, Blitz:15'"]
[Site "Ted Summers Enterprises"]
[Date "2007.09.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "HIARCS 11.2 SP"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng 2.7"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Annotator "-0.12;-0.30"]
[PlyCount "122"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz 1729 MHz W=13.9 ply; 207kN/s; 49,069
TBAs B=13.5 ply; 279kN/s; 6,057 TBAs} 1. e4 {
Both last book move [%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:01]} e6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]}
2. d4 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nc3 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e5 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nfd7 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. f4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Nf3 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nc6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Be3 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Nxd4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Qd2 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. O-O-O {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. h4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd4 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Bxd4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Rh3 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} b4 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. Na4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxd4 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Qxd4 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Bb5 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb8 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 17. Bd3 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:01]} Qc7 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. h5 {
[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc6 {[%eval -30,13] [%emt 0:00:32]} 19. h6 {
(b3) [%eval -12,14] [%emt 0:00:56]} g6 {[%eval -31,15] [%emt 0:00:39]} 20. b3 {
[%eval -14,14] [%emt 0:00:24]} Ba6 {[%eval -30,15] [%emt 0:00:34]} 21. Bxa6 {
(Kb1) [%eval -14,13] [%emt 0:00:32]} Qxa6 {[%eval -31,16] [%emt 0:01:07]} 22.
Rhd3 {(c4) [%eval -22,14] [%emt 0:00:40]} Rfc8 {
(Rbc8) [%eval -35,16] [%emt 0:01:03]} 23. Kb2 {
(Kb1) [%eval -11,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Rc7 {(Rb7) [%eval -38,14] [%emt 0:01:09]}
24. Rc1 {(c3) [%eval -35,14] [%emt 0:01:26]} Rbc8 {
[%eval -63,16] [%emt 0:00:48]} 25. g4 {(c4) [%eval -78,14] [%emt 0:01:20]} Nc5
{[%eval -59,14] [%emt 0:00:42]} 26. Nxc5 {[%eval -76,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} Rxc5 {
[%eval -55,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} 27. Rd2 {[%eval -71,14] [%emt 0:01:03]} a4 {
(R5c7) [%eval -152,14] [%emt 0:02:13]} 28. Qxb4 {[%eval -169,15] [%emt 0:02:12]
} axb3 {[%eval -152,14] [%emt 0:00:42]} 29. axb3 {
[%eval -167,15] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rb5 {(Ra5) [%eval -209,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} 30.
Qd4 {[%eval -148,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} Ra8 {[%eval -216,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} 31.
Rdd1 {[%eval -207,15] [%emt 0:01:28]} Qa3+ {[%eval -237,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 32.
Kc3 {[%eval -207,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} Rb4 {[%eval -246,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} 33.
Qf2 {[%eval -220,15] [%emt 0:01:19]} Rc8+ {[%eval -221,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} 34.
Kd2 {[%eval -235,16] [%emt 0:01:12]} Qb2 {[%eval -247,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} 35.
Ke1 {[%eval -239,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qc3+ {[%eval -257,12] [%emt 0:00:07]} 36.
Rd2 {[%eval -258,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} g5 {[%eval -231,14] [%emt 0:00:35]} 37.
fxg5 {[%eval -255,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qxe5+ {[%eval -231,12] [%emt 0:00:34]}
38. Kd1 {[%eval -246,13] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rf4 {[%eval -250,13] [%emt 0:00:32]}
39. Qg1 {(Qe1) [%eval -320,14] [%emt 0:00:57]} Qxg5 {
[%eval -293,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} 40. Rd4 {[%eval -389,13] [%emt 0:01:32]} Qxh6 {
(Rf3) [%eval -292,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} 41. Rxf4 {[%eval -300,13] [%emt 0:01:11]}
Qxf4 {[%eval -301,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} 42. Qe1 {[%eval -300,13] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Qd4+ {[%eval -302,11] [%emt 0:00:20]} 43. Qd2 {[%eval -300,13] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Qxg4+ {[%eval -302,11] [%emt 0:00:09]} 44. Qe2 {[%eval -317,13] [%emt 0:00:20]}
Qg7 {(h5) [%eval -313,12] [%emt 0:00:07]} 45. Qf2 {
(Qh2) [%eval -279,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} d4 {[%eval -319,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} 46.
Rb1 {(b4) [%eval -335,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rc3 {[%eval -379,14] [%emt 0:00:25]}
47. Ra1 {[%eval -402,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qg4+ {[%eval -394,12] [%emt 0:00:08]}
48. Kc1 {[%eval -402,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} d3 {[%eval -382,13] [%emt 0:00:07]}
49. Ra8+ {(Ra2) [%eval -575,14] [%emt 0:01:14]} Kg7 {
[%eval -426,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} 50. Ra2 {[%eval -653,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} Qg5+ {
[%eval -419,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} 51. Kd1 {[%eval -678,13] [%emt 0:00:16]} dxc2+
{[%eval -431,11] [%emt 0:00:08]} 52. Rxc2 {[%eval -756,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rxb3
{(Rd3+) [%eval -427,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} 53. Rd2 {[%eval -441,10] [%emt 0:00:11]
} Qg4+ {[%eval -414,11] [%emt 0:00:26]} 54. Kc1 {[%eval -439,11] [%emt 0:00:06]
} Rc3+ {(e5) [%eval -426,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 55. Rc2 {
[%eval -446,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rxc2+ {(Rg3) [%eval -426,12] [%emt 0:00:13]}
56. Qxc2 {[%eval -519,13] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qg5+ {[%eval -517,13] [%emt 0:00:17]}
57. Kb1 {[%eval -549,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} h5 {
(Qg6) [%eval -529,14] [%emt 0:00:05]} 58. Qb2+ {
(Qc3+) [%eval -615,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} e5 {[%eval -567,13] [%emt 0:00:06]} 59.
Ka1 {(Qe2) [%eval -714,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} h4 {[%eval -608,14] [%emt 0:00:12]}
60. Qc3 {[%eval -1247,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qg1+ {[%eval -979,14] [%emt 0:00:13]}
61. Ka2 {[%eval -1296,12] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qf2+ {[%eval -904,11] [%emt 0:00:17]}
0-1
[Event "TEDWINLT, Blitz:15'"]
[Site "Ted Summers Enterprises"]
[Date "2007.09.03"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Deep Sjeng 2.7"]
[Black "HIARCS 11.2 SP"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B80"]
[Annotator "0.14;0.26"]
[PlyCount "141"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz 1729 MHz W=15.1 ply; 331kN/s; 13,684
TBAs B=13.9 ply; 241kN/s; 13,663 TBAs} 1. e4 {
Both last book move [%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:01]
} 2. Nf3 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. d4 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nxd4 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Be3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. f3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. g4 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nfd7 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Qd2 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. O-O-O {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb7 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nb3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Qf2 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%eval -1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. h4 {
[%eval 14,14] [%emt 0:01:09]} Nce5 {(Be7) [%eval 26,13] [%emt 0:01:00]} 14. h5
{[%eval 16,13] [%emt 0:00:52]} h6 {(Be7) [%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:49]} 15. Qg2
{(Rd4) [%eval 17,13] [%emt 0:01:03]} b4 {[%eval -9,13] [%emt 0:00:33]} 16. Nb1
{(Ne2) [%eval -1,14] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rc8 {(Qc7) [%eval -23,13] [%emt 0:00:46]}
17. Rd4 {(Rh2) [%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qc7 {
(Nc6) [%eval -10,14] [%emt 0:02:44]} 18. Rxb4 {[%eval -3,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} d5
{[%eval -1,13] [%emt 0:00:45]} 19. Rxb7 {[%eval 42,13] [%emt 0:00:34]} Qxb7 {
[%eval -17,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} 20. exd5 {[%eval 51,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} Qxd5 {
[%eval -16,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} 21. Bxa6 {[%eval 33,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rb8 {
[%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} 22. Be2 {[%eval 53,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} Nc4 {
[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:29]} 23. Bxc4 {(Qf2) [%eval 57,14] [%emt 0:00:51]}
Qxc4 {[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:07]} 24. Rd1 {(N1d2) [%eval 49,14] [%emt 0:00:36]
} Nf6 {(Be7) [%eval 22,13] [%emt 0:00:48]} 25. N1d2 {
(Nc3) [%eval 35,12] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qc6 {(Qa6) [%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} 26.
Qe2 {[%eval 16,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} Be7 {(Nd5) [%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} 27.
Qc4 {[%eval 33,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qxc4 {(Qa8) [%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:40]} 28.
Nxc4 {[%eval 50,14] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nd5 {[%eval -7,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} 29. Bd4
{[%eval 47,14] [%emt 0:00:10]} O-O {[%eval -5,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} 30. Nbd2 {
(Ne5) [%eval 56,14] [%emt 0:00:22]} Ra8 {(Rfd8) [%eval -17,13] [%emt 0:00:25]}
31. a3 {(Kb1) [%eval 61,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} Bg5 {
(Rfd8) [%eval -3,13] [%emt 0:00:41]} 32. c3 {[%eval 73,15] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bf4
{(Rfc8) [%eval 8,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 33. Kc2 {[%eval 90,15] [%emt 0:00:37]}
Rfc8 {(Rfd8) [%eval 21,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 34. b3 {[%eval 87,15] [%emt 0:00:30]
} Rc6 {(f5) [%eval 32,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} 35. a4 {[%eval 98,14] [%emt 0:00:18]}
f5 {[%eval 48,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} 36. Rg1 {[%eval 90,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} Bh2 {
(Rc7) [%eval 51,14] [%emt 0:00:58]} 37. Rg2 {[%eval 109,15] [%emt 0:00:18]} e5
{(Bc7) [%eval 58,14] [%emt 0:00:26]} 38. Rxh2 {[%eval 103,16] [%emt 0:00:24]}
exd4 {[%eval 62,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} 39. cxd4 {[%eval 95,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rd8
{[%eval 65,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} 40. Kb2 {[%eval 87,15] [%emt 0:00:18]} Nf4 {
[%eval 70,14] [%emt 0:00:28]} 41. Ne5 {[%eval 94,16] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rc7 {
[%eval 67,14] [%emt 0:00:16]} 42. Ndc4 {[%eval 100,17] [%emt 0:00:26]} Rxd4 {
[%eval 75,14] [%emt 0:00:24]} 43. Ka3 {(Rd2) [%eval 95,17] [%emt 0:00:33]} fxg4
{(Rd1) [%eval 39,14] [%emt 0:00:15]} 44. fxg4 {[%eval 102,16] [%emt 0:00:16]}
Rc5 {[%eval 42,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} 45. a5 {[%eval 105,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} Re4 {
(Nd5) [%eval 43,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} 46. Nd7 {(b4) [%eval 93,16] [%emt 0:00:23]}
Rg5 {(Rc7) [%eval 36,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} 47. Rf2 {
(Rc2) [%eval 120,15] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rd5 {(Rd4) [%eval 92,14] [%emt 0:00:45]}
48. Ndb6 {[%eval 144,15] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rg5 {
(Rc5) [%eval 126,15] [%emt 0:00:43]} 49. a6 {[%eval 144,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} Nd5
{[%eval 126,14] [%emt 0:00:14]} 50. Nxd5 {[%eval 141,16] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rxd5 {
[%eval 127,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} 51. Kb4 {(a7) [%eval 142,16] [%emt 0:00:20]} Re8
{[%eval 123,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} 52. Ra2 {[%eval 138,15] [%emt 0:00:14]} Rb8+ {
[%eval 146,15] [%emt 0:00:38]} 53. Kc3 {[%eval 150,15] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rdb5 {
[%eval 125,15] [%emt 0:00:14]} 54. b4 {[%eval 160,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} Ra8 {
[%eval 120,14] [%emt 0:00:09]} 55. Ra4 {[%eval 174,17] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rg5 {
[%eval 128,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} 56. Kb3 {(Kd3) [%eval 174,17] [%emt 0:00:25]}
Kf8 {(Kh7) [%eval 117,14] [%emt 0:00:20]} 57. Na3 {
(Ra1) [%eval 223,16] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rxg4 {[%eval 233,15] [%emt 0:00:34]} 58.
b5 {[%eval 257,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} Rg3+ {[%eval 233,14] [%emt 0:00:13]} 59. Kb4
{[%eval 297,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} Rg4+ {(g6) [%eval 246,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} 60.
Ka5 {[%eval 322,14] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rg5 {[%eval 262,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} 61. Kb6
{[%eval 345,15] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rxh5 {[%eval 279,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} 62. Kb7 {
[%eval 375,14] [%emt 0:00:05]} Re8 {(Rd8) [%eval 342,14] [%emt 0:00:25]} 63. a7
{[%eval 420,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} Rhe5 {[%eval 349,13] [%emt 0:00:17]} 64. b6 {
(a8Q) [%eval 393,13] [%emt 0:00:07]} g5 {(R5e7+) [%eval 541,14] [%emt 0:01:03]}
65. Nc4 {(a8Q) [%eval 503,14] [%emt 0:00:17]} R5e6 {
(R5e7+) [%eval 573,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} 66. a8=Q {[%eval 505,14] [%emt 0:00:11]}
Rxa8 {[%eval 574,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} 67. Kxa8 {[%eval 602,15] [%emt 0:00:22]}
Re8+ {[%eval 575,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} 68. Ka7 {[%eval 641,14] [%emt 0:00:12]}
Kg7 {[%eval 659,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} 69. b7 {(Nd6) [%eval 681,14] [%emt 0:00:22]
} Re7 {(Rf8) [%eval 684,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} 70. Ne3 {
[%eval 727,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} Rf7 {(Rxb7+) [%eval 721,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} 71.
Nf5+ {[%eval 1229,12] [%emt 0:00:18]} 1-0
[Event "TEDWINLT, Blitz:15'"]
[Site "Ted Summers Enterprises"]
[Date "2007.09.03"]
[Round "3"]
[White "HIARCS 11.2 SP"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng 2.7"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D37"]
[Annotator "0.35;0.12"]
[PlyCount "133"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
1. d4 {Both last book move [%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c4 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nc3 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Bf4 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. e3 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. dxc5 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxc5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. a3 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Qc2 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:01]} 10. O-O-O {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. h4 {[%eval 1,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rd8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. cxd5 {[%eval 35,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} Nxd5 {
[%eval 12,14] [%emt 0:00:55]} 13. Nxd5 {[%eval 35,14] [%emt 0:00:56]} Rxd5 {
[%eval 26,15] [%emt 0:00:43]} 14. Bc4 {(Rxd5) [%eval 53,13] [%emt 0:00:34]} Rc5
{(Rxd1+) [%eval 44,12] [%emt 0:00:38]} 15. Ng5 {[%eval 46,15] [%emt 0:01:19]}
f5 {[%eval 29,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} 16. Kb1 {(Rd6) [%eval 131,13] [%emt 0:00:32]}
h6 {[%eval 89,13] [%emt 0:00:47]} 17. Nxe6 {[%eval 153,13] [%emt 0:00:35]} Bxe6
{[%eval 83,13] [%emt 0:00:16]} 18. Bxe6+ {[%eval 145,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} Kh8 {
[%eval 87,13] [%emt 0:00:56]} 19. Qe2 {[%eval 137,13] [%emt 0:00:37]} Bf6 {
[%eval 71,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} 20. Rc1 {(f3) [%eval 138,12] [%emt 0:00:43]}
Rxc1+ {(Rb5) [%eval 98,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} 21. Rxc1 {
[%eval 144,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rd8 {[%eval 107,14] [%emt 0:00:52]} 22. Rc2 {
[%eval 148,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} Be5 {[%eval 120,14] [%emt 0:00:49]} 23. g3 {
(Bg5) [%eval 141,13] [%emt 0:00:36]} Bxf4 {(a6) [%eval 101,13] [%emt 0:00:21]}
24. gxf4 {[%eval 143,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} Rd6 {
(Ne7) [%eval 117,14] [%emt 0:00:45]} 25. Bb3 {
(Bc8) [%eval 160,14] [%emt 0:00:39]} Ne7 {[%eval 125,13] [%emt 0:00:30]} 26.
Rc1 {(Qc4) [%eval 157,14] [%emt 0:00:37]} Qd8 {[%eval 115,14] [%emt 0:00:18]}
27. Qb5 {(Qc4) [%eval 157,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rb6 {
[%eval 130,14] [%emt 0:00:28]} 28. Qa5 {(Qc4) [%eval 162,14] [%emt 0:00:27]}
Nc6 {(Qd3+) [%eval 141,14] [%emt 0:00:33]} 29. Qd5 {
[%eval 185,15] [%emt 0:00:25]} Qxd5 {[%eval 144,15] [%emt 0:00:16]} 30. Bxd5 {
[%eval 193,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kh7 {(g6) [%eval 147,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} 31. h5
{[%eval 192,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} g5 {(g6) [%eval 156,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} 32.
Bxc6 {(Rd1) [%eval 231,16] [%emt 0:00:25]} Rxc6 {
(bxc6) [%eval 116,18] [%emt 0:00:20]} 33. Rxc6 {
(Rd1) [%eval 345,18] [%emt 0:00:18]} bxc6 {[%eval 135,20] [%emt 0:00:18]} 34.
Kc2 {[%eval 370,19] [%emt 0:00:19]} gxf4 {(Kg7) [%eval 146,20] [%emt 0:00:15]}
35. exf4 {[%eval 509,20] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kg7 {[%eval 265,23] [%emt 0:00:17]}
36. Kc3 {[%eval 664,23] [%emt 0:00:25]} Kf6 {[%eval 385,23] [%emt 0:00:31]} 37.
Kb4 {[%eval 681,22] [%emt 0:00:15]} Ke6 {[%eval 414,23] [%emt 0:00:33]} 38. Ka5
{[%eval 715,21] [%emt 0:00:18]} c5 {(Kd6) [%eval 472,22] [%emt 0:00:29]} 39.
Ka6 {[%eval 865,20] [%emt 0:00:15]} Kd5 {(Kd6) [%eval 511,22] [%emt 0:00:16]}
40. Kxa7 {[%eval 975,19] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kc6 {[%eval 1059,22] [%emt 0:01:08]}
41. a4 {(b3) [%eval 1126,19] [%emt 0:00:23]} c4 {[%eval 685,23] [%emt 0:00:11]}
42. a5 {(Ka6) [%eval 1264,19] [%emt 0:00:19]} Kc7 {
[%eval 551,20] [%emt 0:00:10]} 43. a6 {(Ka6) [%eval 1521,19] [%emt 0:00:14]}
Kc8 {[%eval 499,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} 44. Kb6 {[%eval 1762,21] [%emt 0:00:14]}
Kb8 {[%eval 1052,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} 45. Kc5 {
(Kc6) [%eval 2425,22] [%emt 0:00:17]} Ka7 {[%eval 1164,19] [%emt 0:00:12]} 46.
Kxc4 {[%eval 32742,20] [%emt 0:00:18]} Kxa6 {[%eval 32736,21] [%emt 0:00:18]}
47. b4 {[%eval 32743,18] [%emt 0:00:21]} Kb6 {
(Kb7) [%eval 32752,21] [%emt 0:00:22]} 48. b5 {[%eval 32745,17] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Ka7 {(Kc7) [%eval 32753,20] [%emt 0:00:06]} 49. b6+ {
(Kc5) [%eval 32746,41] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kxb6 {
(Kb7) [%eval 32750,22] [%emt 0:00:15]} 50. Kd4 {
(Kd5) [%eval 32749,35] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kc6 {
(Kb7) [%eval 32751,24] [%emt 0:00:18]} 51. Ke5 {[%eval 32750,33] [%emt 0:00:00]
} Kd7 {[%eval 32752,23] [%emt 0:00:14]} 52. Kxf5 {
[%eval 32751,31] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {[%eval 32753,22] [%emt 0:00:22]} 53. Kg6
{[%eval 32752,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke6 {[%eval 32754,22] [%emt 0:00:22]} 54.
Kxh6 {(f5+) [%eval 32753,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf6 {
[%eval 32753,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 55. Kh7 {[%eval 32754,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {
[%eval 32755,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 56. h6 {[%eval 32755,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf6 {
[%eval 32755,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 57. Kg8 {[%eval 32756,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf5 {
[%eval 32757,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 58. h7 {[%eval 32757,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kxf4 {
[%eval 32758,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 59. h8=Q {[%eval 32758,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf3 {
[%eval 32758,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Qd4 {[%eval 32759,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke2 {
[%eval 32760,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 61. f4 {[%eval 32760,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf1 {
[%eval 32761,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 62. f5 {[%eval 32761,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg2 {
[%eval 32762,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 63. f6 {[%eval 32762,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf1 {
[%eval 32763,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 64. f7 {[%eval 32763,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg2 {
[%eval 32763,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 65. f8=Q {[%eval 32764,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg3 {
[%eval 32765,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 66. Qg1+ {[%eval 32765,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kh3 {
[%eval 32766,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 67. Qh6# {[%eval 32766,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1-0
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Dr.Ex
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
She used a "One Variation book". 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe6+, the so called Letterman-Variation of the Center Counter.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Hi,
What opening book did Rybka use in these games![]()
After the further moves 4.Be2 Qg6? (a bad move which is of course not in the book) we have this position:
[d]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/6q1/8/8/2N5/PPPPBPPP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - 0 5
Shredder crushed List in a game published by Kurt Utzinger in the old Forum and I use this position as testposition ever since.
I don't trust engines for opening or early middlegame Analysis if they don't want to play 5.Nf3 here.
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.09"]
[Round "1.4"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2003.??.??"]
[SourceDate "2003.01.01"]
1. e4 {Start of game / Partiebeginn} d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ {Such a move
leaves the impression that we are playing chess of the year 1986 / Solch ein
Zug hinterlaesst den Eindruck, als ob das Schach aus dem Jahr 1986 gespielt
wird} 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Nf3 Qxg2 {This pawn srap is too dangerous and gives White
a very smooth development / Dieser Bauernschlag ist zu gefaehrlich und erlaubt
Weiss eine rasche Entwicklung} 6. Rg1 Qh3 7. d4 Qd7 8. Bf4 g6 9. Ne5 Qd8 10.
Bc4 e6 11. Qf3 f6 12. d5 {!! From a human's point of view this is a fantastic
but very strong move / Aus menschlicher Sicht ein fantastischer und sehr
starker Zug} Bd6 13. Bb5+ Kf8 14. dxe6 Qe7 15. O-O-O Qxe6 16. Nc4 Qh3 (16...
Bxf4+ 17. Qxf4 Nc6 18. Rge1 Qf7 19. Bxc6 bxc6 20. Rd8+ Kg7 21. Ree8 {
wins easily / gewinn einfach}) 17. Bxd6+ cxd6 18. Qd5 Qe6 19. Qd2 Nc6 20. Nxd6
{Black has a hopeless position / Schwarz hat eine hoffnungslose Stellung} Ne5
21. Rde1 a6 22. Ba4 b5 23. Bb3 Qd7 24. Nce4 Nf3 25. Qf4 Nxe1 26. Nxf6 Nd3+ 27.
cxd3 1-0
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
Aha,I see,so it's a theme match after all....Dr.Ex wrote:She used a "One Variation book". 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe6+, the so called Letterman-Variation of the Center Counter.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Hi,
What opening book did Rybka use in these games![]()
After the further moves 4.Be2 Qg6? (a bad move which is of course not in the book) we have this position:
[d]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/6q1/8/8/2N5/PPPPBPPP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - 0 5
Shredder crushed List in a game published by Kurt Utzinger in the old Forum and I use this position as testposition ever since.
I don't trust engines for opening or early middlegame Analysis if they don't want to play 5.Nf3 here.
[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2003.10.09"]
[Round "1.4"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "List 504"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]
[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2003.??.??"]
[SourceDate "2003.01.01"]
1. e4 {Start of game / Partiebeginn} d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qe6+ {Such a move
leaves the impression that we are playing chess of the year 1986 / Solch ein
Zug hinterlaesst den Eindruck, als ob das Schach aus dem Jahr 1986 gespielt
wird} 4. Be2 Qg6 5. Nf3 Qxg2 {This pawn srap is too dangerous and gives White
a very smooth development / Dieser Bauernschlag ist zu gefaehrlich und erlaubt
Weiss eine rasche Entwicklung} 6. Rg1 Qh3 7. d4 Qd7 8. Bf4 g6 9. Ne5 Qd8 10.
Bc4 e6 11. Qf3 f6 12. d5 {!! From a human's point of view this is a fantastic
but very strong move / Aus menschlicher Sicht ein fantastischer und sehr
starker Zug} Bd6 13. Bb5+ Kf8 14. dxe6 Qe7 15. O-O-O Qxe6 16. Nc4 Qh3 (16...
Bxf4+ 17. Qxf4 Nc6 18. Rge1 Qf7 19. Bxc6 bxc6 20. Rd8+ Kg7 21. Ree8 {
wins easily / gewinn einfach}) 17. Bxd6+ cxd6 18. Qd5 Qe6 19. Qd2 Nc6 20. Nxd6
{Black has a hopeless position / Schwarz hat eine hoffnungslose Stellung} Ne5
21. Rde1 a6 22. Ba4 b5 23. Bb3 Qd7 24. Nce4 Nf3 25. Qf4 Nxe1 26. Nxf6 Nd3+ 27.
cxd3 1-0
Thanks for the reply
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
does this mean, DeepSjeng27 is tuned against a special chess engine too?chessfurby wrote:, I mean Deep Sjeng 2.7, has its evaluation function entirely automatically learned from watching Grandmaster games.
Which one
Werner
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
Werner as said above:
Eval learned from a grandmaster database (human gms). It was a first experiment with which GCP was happy.
So there is no talk about engine here ...
Eval learned from a grandmaster database (human gms). It was a first experiment with which GCP was happy.
So there is no talk about engine here ...
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
Well,insulting people won't make your pocket thicker....chessfurby wrote:To quote GCP (whose ccc account is not working atm):
Hi all,
Deep Sjeng 2.7 was just released. For people who have bought Deep Sjeng 2.5 this is a free update. Just install Deep Sjeng 2.7 and your code for Deep Sjeng 2.5 will still work.
For the silly people who have not bought it yet we offer a free 30-day trial just like the previous time![]()
http://www.sjeng.org/deepsjeng2
Noteworthy new features:
* Engine +/- 50 ELO stronger than Deep Sjeng 2.5
* *Vastly* improved passed pawn and kingsafety understanding
* SMP improvements
* Adjustable board graphics, GUI usability tweaks
* GUI supports pondering
* Improved analysis options in GUI
* Opening book now a lot bigger
The new engine is actually an improved version of "Stoofvlees" who played in the last Leiden tournament. "Stoofvlees", err, I mean Deep Sjeng 2.7, has its evaluation function entirely automatically learned from watching Grandmaster games. Aside from making my job a lot easier (no more tuning to do at all!), the engine has noticeably improved in strength, particularly in the areas where it was less optimal before. Passed pawn handling is simply on another level compared to Deep Sjeng 2.5. There is also a strong effect on the playing style which will be easily noticeable: the engine plays very humanlike, which isn't surprising, given that it learned chess from watching GM's!
Overall I'm very happy with the result of this experiment, and it will be quite interesting to see how much further it can be taken...
www.sjeng.org
Cheers
And again,I might remain silly after I took a look here for example:
http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/171911.htm
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Werner
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Re: Sjeng 2.7 released
Yes correct,chessfurby wrote:Werner as said above:
Eval learned from a grandmaster database (human gms). It was a first experiment with which GCP was happy.
So there is no talk about engine here ...
but I have 2 interesting results here:
Code: Select all
1 Deep Sjeng 2.7 2CPU +22/-11/=17 61.00 30.5/50
2 Fritz 10 +11/-22/=17 39.00 19.5/50Code: Select all
1 Shredder 10 +16/-14/=20 52.00 26.0/50
2 Deep Sjeng 2.7 2CPU +14/-16/=20 48.00 24.0/50Congrats to that good results!
Werner