10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

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10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by smrf »

Here is another fresh game between currently published ChessV and an internal testing release of SMIRF, playing a game of Embassy Chess:

[Event "Embassy Chess 40 sec / move"]
[Site "CHESSBOX-MAC-XP"]
[Date "2007.10.22"]
[Time "22:08:06"]
[Round "A"]
[White "ChessV 0.9.3 (64+32 MB)"]
[Black "SMIRF MS-169c (128 MB)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "RS"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkmcbnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQKMCBNR w mKQkq - 0 1"]

1. f4 Nh6 {(10.19) +0.031} 2. g3 d5 {(11.00) -0.018} 3. Nh3 c6 {(10.02=)
-0.051} 4. Bg2 Cf6 {(09.04=) +0.086} 5. Nc3 Na6 {(09.37) +0.307} 6. j4 g6
{(09.01=) +0.449} 7. d3 Bg4 {(09.03) +0.406} 8. Nf2 Be6 {(09.01=) +0.781} 9. e4
d4 {(09.17) +0.957} 10. Ne2 Qd7 {(09.35) +0.744} 11. e5 Cg7 {(11.02=) +0.256}
12. Nh3 Bg4 {(10.01=) +0.346} 13. Bf3 Bxf3 {(10.01) +0.424} 14. Mxf3 c5
{(09.34) +0.516} 15. Ng5 Ch5 {(09.16) +0.598} 16. Mf1 O-O-O {(09.32) +0.662}
17. Ch3 Cg4 {(09.46) +0.625} 18. Ci5 Cxi5 {(09.32) +0.326} 19. jxi5 f6
{(11.01=) +0.330} 20. ixh6 fxg5 {(09.10) +0.609} 21. hxi7 Bxi7 {(11.01=)
+0.525} 22. Ng1 gxf4 {(10.01=) +0.711} 23. Bxf4 Bxf4 {(10.33) +0.732} 24. Mxf4
Nb4 {(10.01=) +0.926} 25. Kd2 Mxf4 {(10.19) +2.188} 26. gxf4 c4 {(11.02=)
+2.402} 27. a3 Nd5 {(11.01=) +2.879} 28. Rxj7 Rxj7 {(12.01=) +4.029} 29. Qxj7
cxd3 {(12.01=) +4.656} 30. Rc1 Qb5 {(12.05) +6.100} 31. Qf3 Ne3 {(12.02=)
+8.609} 32. b4 Qa4 {(11.13) +9.928} 33. c4 Qxa3 {(11.01=) +13.81} 34. c5 Qb2+
{(11.06) +14.99} 35. Kxd3 Qxc1 {(12.01=) +15.39} 36. Qe2 Rd8 {(11.07) +17.22}
37. Ke4 Qxg1 {(12.27) +22.79} 38. Kf3 Qg4+ {(09.01=) +M~007} 39. Kf2 Qxf4+
{(07.01=) +M~006} 40. Qf3 Qxh2+ {(06.01=) +M~005} 41. Ke1 Rj8 {(04.01=) +M~004}
42. Qf2 Qh1+ {(02.01=) +M~003} 43. Qg1 Qxg1+ {(03.01=) +M~003} 44. Ke2 Qf1+
{(02.01=) +M~002} 45. Kd2 Qd1# {(02.00?) +M~001} 0-1

You will find out, that SMIRF's mating procedure still is unprecise, but sufficient to succeed. ChessV has been improved a lot. It seems to search a little bit more selective than SMIRF does and to tend to slightly over-evaluate centralized pawns (replayable e.g. using SMIRF).

Reinhard.
GothicChessInventor

Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by GothicChessInventor »

I managed to install SMIRF 1.69b and play a game against Tornado 1.0 today. It was game/30 + 15 seconds.

Tornado won with a mate on move 61.

I will post the game if you would like to see the play.
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

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Ed, this would be interesting, showing me, how other engines are improving. Fine, that you have now a more recent SMIRF at hands. The current version of SMIRF under development MS-169c has been changed regarding the covering of pawns' centralization e.g. during the opening and in inspecting quiet moves a little bit more intensively. This program is now reaching its limits, established by its old data structures and its very slow evaluation routine, both basicly designed with the birth of SMIRF. Nevertheless I hope the benefits of that later changes will to be noticed.

Reinhard.
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by GothicChessInventor »

Variant Pulverizer just played a game too with SMIRF. It was the strangest game I have ever seen! It moved it pieces out, then retreated them back to the back rank, then redepolyed them! It's program must have a strange "piece placement" algorithm.

Again, it won against SMIRF, and I promise you, it was the weirdest game I have ever seen!

I will place both of these games online soon.
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by mageofmaple »

What is Tornado? Is it free?
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by GothicChessInventor »

mageofmaple wrote:What is Tornado? Is it free?
Yes, it is available on SourceForge.net just like ChessV.

Oh, wait, that's right, I had ChessV removed from SourceForge.net, how could I forget!
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

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GothicChessInventor wrote:
mageofmaple wrote:What is Tornado? Is it free?
Yes, it is available on SourceForge.net just like ChessV.

Oh, wait, that's right, I had ChessV removed from SourceForge.net, how could I forget!
I still can NOT find where to download either Smirf or Tornado with the graphical GUI 10 X8 Interface in your website :?:

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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

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GothicChessInventor wrote:I managed to install SMIRF 1.69b and play a game against Tornado 1.0 today. It was game/30 + 15 seconds.

Tornado won with a mate on move 61.

I will post the game if you would like to see the play.

Where did you downloaded SMIRF 169.b from :?:
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Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

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The donationware version of SMIRF could be downloaded via: http://www.10x8.net/down/SmNewSetup.exe (GUI + BC-Engine)

The improved and faster MS-engines are for serious donators (and special contributors) only, who will own a personalized access key.

Reinhard.
mageofmaple

Re: 10x8 Chess Variant Programming still is improving

Post by mageofmaple »

mageofmaple wrote:
What is Tornado? Is it free?


Yes, it is available on SourceForge.net just like ChessV.

Oh, wait, that's right, I had ChessV removed from SourceForge.net, how could I forget!
Thanks, Ed. Glad to see you're just as mature as ever.

For anyone looking for ChessV, it is now at http://www.chessv.com