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re: zappa mexico

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with a new revision you should get a new revision number. it would save a lot of confusion.
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seemychess wrote:with a new revision you should get a new revision number. it would save a lot of confusion.
Yes. Deep Fritz 10 was the same - SP3 gives us an exe with a 10.1 version number which is 60+ ELO stronger on 4CPUs, but an unchanged engine name
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It has been always the case Ray,they don't change the engine's name 8-)
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It has been always the case Ray,they don't change the engine's name 8-)
Not always - Shredder 10.1 did change the name for example, and so did Hiarcs 11.2 etc. I guess some change and some don't. Junior 10.1 did change as well if I recall - so even chessbase aren't consistent
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Spock wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It has been always the case Ray,they don't change the engine's name 8-)
Not always - Shredder 10.1 did change the name for example, and so did Hiarcs 11.2 etc. I guess some change and some don't. Junior 10.1 did change as well if I recall - so even chessbase aren't consistent
I was talking about the ChessBase engines....
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When the changes arent worth a name change some programmers chose not to change the name, I dont see anything sinful about it. They could call it version 15.0 and charge the customers again, but a problem with such a simple solution, barely renaming the exe is nothing worth bickering about.
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Tony Thomas wrote:When the changes arent worth a name change some programmers chose not to change the name, I dont see anything sinful about it. They could call it version 15.0 and charge the customers again, but a problem with such a simple solution, barely renaming the exe is nothing worth bickering about.
The .exe file size of the 32-bit version is 4mb larger than the previous version. And these are the changes according to Anthony ...

1) there is a new "contempt" parameter [- values = higher contempt]
2) Zappa plays a bit faster when it is low on time
3) three small bugs in the evaluation fixed
4) Mexico actually used about 10% less time than Zanzibar, and I reverted to the original value
5) "Auto" Thread parameter detects CPUs
6) Options to make Zappa print less information; print pv tips and Hide Fail Highs.
7) A few eval fixes based on my experience in Mexico. Nothing too dramatic.

Seems like a significant update to me.

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Dave
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4 MB larger .exe? I am sure you meant .04MB, or 35840bytes, or 35.84kb. Eve using a different compiler can change the .exe size much more. Some changes in time handling, minor bugfixes, and few eval changes doesnt seem like a major change to me. Since Anthony hasnt been much of a version number guy lately, we can just call it Zappa Xtreme. :lol:
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it is just common sence when ever their is a change from original program you give it a revision number.
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Tony Thomas wrote:4 MB larger .exe? I am sure you meant .04MB, or 35840bytes, or 35.84kb. Eve using a different compiler can change the .exe size much more. Some changes in time handling, minor bugfixes, and few eval changes doesnt seem like a major change to me. Since Anthony hasnt been much of a version number guy lately, we can just call it Zappa Xtreme. :lol:
I meant exactly what i said Tony, 4mb. And using a different compiler can result in quite different play. And i never said a "major" change, i said a "significant" change, significant enough for a different version number, in my opinion.

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