Which is your choice for 'Engine of 2007'? Not only the playing strength - for which we have the rating lists anyway - but many other criteria are considerable. Big match or tournament win, attractive style, improved update, interesting new engine... just as you like it.
http://poll.pollcode.com/PBtL
You can choose among 11 engines - I have tried to preselect the most likely candidates, or "eine andere" which means, another one.
(I have created an external poll so that also visitors of the CSS Forum and/or people who are not CCC members, can vote too.)
Engine of the year? (external poll)
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Mike S.
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Engine of the year? (external poll)
Regards, Mike
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Ovyron
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
I voted for Zappa (Mexico).
Some say that it's the strongest chess entity, on 32 cores.
Some say that it's the strongest chess entity, on 32 cores.
Your beliefs create your reality, so be careful what you wish for.
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ArmyBridge
Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
I voted for Fritz, grow 100 elos is not a easy task and the Fritz team made a fine job, but other did a really fantastic work.. Stefan Mayer, and Naumilov. Zappa is really good but you need at least 4 cores to see its strengh. As you can see in several test (CEGT) Fritz 11 can hold a match against 4CPU rivals and win!! (Loop M1T, Shredder 10 and Junior 10) 
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Ovyron
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
Not everyone has 4 cores because they're pricey, but I don't think the engine's quality should be ditched just because the optimal hardware is hard to get.ArmyBridge wrote:Zappa is really good but you need at least 4 cores to see its strengh.
Your beliefs create your reality, so be careful what you wish for.
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pedrox
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
In your list missing:
- Movei, Alaric, Erendal, Hamsters, BugChess2, Alfil...
- Movei, Alaric, Erendal, Hamsters, BugChess2, Alfil...
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Mike S.
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
I didn't want to create a poll with a hundred choices - but at least, I offered eleven major engines to choose from. It is extremely unlikely that the winner would not be among these. But I also added "another one" (eine andere) as the 12th choice. I chose it myself, thinking of Alaric which had a great start as a new engine, followed by significant improvements.
Also, I think it would not have been optimal to include engines where only rare votes can be expected for them, which would look somewhat depressing for their programmers and fans. Up to the moment, even Junior and Loop received none yet.
But it may be interesting to read why someone would assign Engine of the Year to another candidate, for specific achievements or whatever. That should be posted. For example, microMax comes to mind. Or Delfi: Italian comp champion 5 years in a row.
(So far, 9 from 175 voted for another one than those listed.)
Also, I think it would not have been optimal to include engines where only rare votes can be expected for them, which would look somewhat depressing for their programmers and fans. Up to the moment, even Junior and Loop received none yet.
But it may be interesting to read why someone would assign Engine of the Year to another candidate, for specific achievements or whatever. That should be posted. For example, microMax comes to mind. Or Delfi: Italian comp champion 5 years in a row.
(So far, 9 from 175 voted for another one than those listed.)
Regards, Mike
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Erik Roggenburg
Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
I was really torn about how to cast my vote.
Do I vote for Rybka for complete dominance in the ratings list, on playchess.com, and many tourneys?
Should I vote for Zappa Mexico for its multi-core prowess, witty author, and upset of Rybka?
How about Alex Naumov's terrific Naum? My own ratings list had Naum 2.0 at 2548 and Naum 2.2 2T at 2708. That's a huge leap!
Deep Shredder 11 jumped more than 60 Elo in my list from its previous version. If only the Fritz GUI would be as rock-solid as the Shredder GUI.
What about Fritz 11? The fellas at Chessbase have created an engine that ranks slightly higher than its "deep" predecessor on my ratings list. That's a pretty big accomplishment, too. Also, the new engine manages to get deeper into a position much faster than even Deep Fritz 10. I hope the "deep" version of F11 will offer great improvement.
In the end, I crossed to the darkside and voted for Fritz, although I'd like to rethink things since I've had "issues" with GUI11. However, we're voting on engines, not GUIs, so I'll stand by my original vote.
Do I vote for Rybka for complete dominance in the ratings list, on playchess.com, and many tourneys?
Should I vote for Zappa Mexico for its multi-core prowess, witty author, and upset of Rybka?
How about Alex Naumov's terrific Naum? My own ratings list had Naum 2.0 at 2548 and Naum 2.2 2T at 2708. That's a huge leap!
Deep Shredder 11 jumped more than 60 Elo in my list from its previous version. If only the Fritz GUI would be as rock-solid as the Shredder GUI.
What about Fritz 11? The fellas at Chessbase have created an engine that ranks slightly higher than its "deep" predecessor on my ratings list. That's a pretty big accomplishment, too. Also, the new engine manages to get deeper into a position much faster than even Deep Fritz 10. I hope the "deep" version of F11 will offer great improvement.
In the end, I crossed to the darkside and voted for Fritz, although I'd like to rethink things since I've had "issues" with GUI11. However, we're voting on engines, not GUIs, so I'll stand by my original vote.
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ozziejoe
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
I voted for rybka, but now I am wondering. What version was rybka in at the end of 2006.? If it was 1.2f, then I think voting for rybka is voting for the improvement between 1.2f and 2.3.1 a. That is a much closer call, then voting for the rybka improvement from its beta form. I would think that fritz made an amazing leap.
Can anybody remember the chronology of rybka versions? Can we objectively say what top 10, single processor engine had the biggest elo jump?
(not that this is the only critiria..But it is harder to have a big jump at the top than towards the bottom)
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J
Can anybody remember the chronology of rybka versions? Can we objectively say what top 10, single processor engine had the biggest elo jump?
(not that this is the only critiria..But it is harder to have a big jump at the top than towards the bottom)
best
J
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Dann Corbit
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Re: Engine of the year? (external poll)
As far as improvement goes, using this query:ozziejoe wrote:I voted for rybka, but now I am wondering. What version was rybka in at the end of 2006.? If it was 1.2f, then I think voting for rybka is voting for the improvement between 1.2f and 2.3.1 a. That is a much closer call, then voting for the rybka improvement from its beta form. I would think that fritz made an amazing leap.
Can anybody remember the chronology of rybka versions? Can we objectively say what top 10, single processor engine had the biggest elo jump?
(not that this is the only critiria..But it is harder to have a big jump at the top than towards the bottom)
best
J
SELECT Genre, max(Elo), min(Elo) , max(Elo)-min(Elo) as distance FROM engines.dbo.Engines group by Genre order by distance desc {nopassthrough}
Against this data:
Engines.no ,
Engines.Genre ,
Engines.Program ,
Engines.Elo ,
Engines.plus ,
Engines.minus ,
Engines.Games ,
Engines.Score ,
Engines.AvOp ,
Engines.Draws
Gathered from here:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html
with Genre a simplified version of the engine family name
Gave:
Code: Select all
Genre max(Elo) min(Elo) distance
Zappa 3007 2572 435
Fritz 2937 2533 404
Naum 2932 2531 401
Crafty 2696 2364 332
Rybka 3098 2817 281
Shredder 2977 2699 278
Glaurung 2833 2563 270
List 2901 2633 268
Hiarcs 2933 2673 260
Frenzee 2688 2439 249
Junior 2854 2612 242
Fruit 2842 2613 229
Spike 2821 2613 208
Sjeng 2801 2603 198
Booot 2572 2382 190
Ktulu 2759 2580 179
Movei 2662 2486 176
Scorpio 2729 2560 169
Thinker 2726 2566 160
Colossus 2629 2476 153
Chiron 2631 2492 139
SmarThink 2710 2575 135
Petir 2614 2489 125
Homer 2431 2325 106
Pharaon 2668 2562 106
Eveann 2109 2005 104
Alaric 2699 2599 100
The Baron 2624 2528 96
Toga 2830 2734 96
Arasan 2503 2411 92
Delfi 2658 2566 92
The King 2766 2675 91
Bright 2774 2684 90
Djinn 2410 2321 89
RomiChess 2400 2311 89
Rebel 2654 2566 88
Twisted Logic 2507 2420 87
Ufim 2569 2494 75
Cerebro 2506 2434 72
WildCat 2630 2563 67
E.T.Chess 2555 2489 66
Matacz 2474 2411 63
Queen 2442 2380 62
Chess Tiger 2728 2668 60
Gosu 2393 2334 59
Gaia 2432 2373 59
Slow Chess 2651 2600 51
Anaconda 2590 2545 45
Quark 2514 2472 42
Jonny 2637 2595 42
PostModernist 2450 2409 41
Alfil 2380 2339 41
ChessMaster 2692 2652 40
Ruffian 2651 2617 34
Trace 2522 2492 30
Zarkov 2511 2481 30
Snitch 2465 2436 29
Hermann 2409 2381 28
BugChess2 2271 2250 21
Amyan 2508 2494 14
SpiderChess 2500 2486 14
AnMon 2550 2539 11
Tao 2514 2510 4