THE WINNER OF THE IPCCC 2007 at PADERBORN is:

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Hiarcs

Congratulations to all the Hiarcs team and wishing a lot of success in the upcoming 2008 year

[swami]

Hiarcs

Congratulations to all the Hiarcs team and wishing a lot of success in the upcoming 2008 year

Congrats team Hiarcs!!

Deep Shredder,Fritz, and Hiarcs are already in the process of trying to overtake Rybka...but I guess it will take 6 months or so before any engine surpass Rybka in engine rankings...

[Yarget]

Yes, Congratulations to Hiarcs. Great work! I believe that Hiarcs 12 will be a big step forward compared to Hiarcs 11.1/2 and perhaps a threat for Rybka?

Regards
Per

[AdminX]

1st Mexico (Zappa), now this ... Yes, Congratulations to team Hiarcs! Oh, and also a BIG thank you would have to go to Cluster Toga for stopping Rybka's roll.

Message for team Rybka, it's no longer safe at the top.

[George Tsavdaris]

1st Mexico (Zappa), now this ...

Why do you see this as a surprise?
They were 7 games played and Hiarcs won for just 1 Buchholz point, having the same points with Rybka.
Just take a random series of 7 games from CEGT base for example and you will definitely see many Rybka loses....

Nothing unusual here....

Hiarcs won the tournament. A fact.
We can't make any conclusions at all for the program's strength from this tournament. A fact also.

To understand how much "randomness" is involved in these tournaments is the fact that in the end who will be the winner or not was decided by the results of other programs like Spike Vs SOS match, and IsiChess game.
If the results of these matches of these programs was different then Rybka would be 1st, etc....

So we have Hiarcs as a winner of this tournament, but this is not a surprise or a revolutionary phenomenon that changes the map in computer Chess.

Message for team Rybka, it's no longer safe at the top.

My point from all the above is your above statement.
A statement that is false, since mathematics say that even if a program is 100 ELO above competition, it can lose a tournament of less than 20 games. Rarely but it can....

Tournaments are good for having fun and advertising the programs, but the results of them should not be taken as a measure of strength that would lead to overstatements like this was a surprise, a new star, etc....

Hiarcs, Shredder, etc are strong enough to resist against Rybka in a 10 games match. In a 20 games match.
Things get difficult in 30 games match but they can sill beat Rybka. Things get nastier at 50 games. And at 100 games we should start seeing the real Chess ability of the programs.....

[Theo van der Storm]

from Christian Goralski
HIARCS Chess Forums Forum Index -> German Discussions / Deutsche Diskussionen:

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1 Hiarcs      * ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 1    5.5/7 18.25
2 Rybka       ½ * 0 1 1 1 1 1    5.5/7 16.75
3 Toga        ½ 1 * ½ ½ ½ 1 1    5.0/7
4 Spike       ½ ½ * 0 ½ 1 1 ½    4.0/7 11.75
5 Shredder    0 0 ½ 1 * ½ 1 1    4.0/7 10.00
6 Jonny       0 0 ½ ½ * 1 1 1    4.0/7 10.00
7 Diep        0 0 0 0 * ½ 1 1    2.5/7
8 Gandalf     0 0 ½ 0 ½ * 0 1    2.0/7
9 IsiChess    0 0 0 0 0 1 * ½    1.5/7
10 Parsos     0 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ *    1.0/7

Congratulations to the Hiarcs team!

Theo van der Storm

[Murx]

Hello Hiarcs Team

my gratulation for winning IPCCC 2007!
Go on with your good work.
Best wishes, Clemens Keck

[Theo van der Storm]

The table should have been like this:

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  # Name             1    2    3    4    5    6    7   P    BU   SB     G
  1 Hiarcs         10b1  2b=  3w=  6b=  5w1  8w1  4b1  5.5  25.5 18.25  7
  2 Rybka           8b1  1w=  4b1  5w1  3b0  9w1  7b1  5.5  24.5 16.75  7
  3 Cluster Toga    7b1  5w=  1b=  4w=  2w1  6b=  9w1  5.0  27.0 18.25  7
  4 Jonny           6w=  8b1  2w0  3b= 10w1  7b1  1w0  4.0  25.5 10.00  7
  5 Deep Shredder   9w1  3b=  6w1  2b0  1b0 10w1  8b=  4.0  24.5 10.00  7
  6 Spike           4b=  7w1  5b0  1w=  9b1  3w= 10b=  4.0  23.5 11.75  7
  7 Diep            3w0  6b0  9w1 10b1  8b=  4w0  2w0  2.5  23.0  3.50  7
  8 Gandalf         2w0  4w0 10b1  9b0  7w=  1b0  5w=  2.0  24.0  4.25  7
  9 Isichess        5b0 10w=  7b0  8w1  6w0  2b0  3b0  1.5  24.0  2.50  7
 10 ParSOS          1w0  9b=  8w0  7w0  4b0  5b0  6w=  1.0  23.5  2.75  7


  # Name           1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10   P    BU   SB     G
  1 Hiarcs         X  ½  ½  1  1  ½  .  1  .  1   5.5  25.5 18.25  7
  2 Rybka          ½  X  0  1  1  .  1  1  1  .   5.5  24.5 16.75  7
  3 Cluster Toga   ½  1  X  ½  ½  ½  1  .  1  .   5.0  27.0 18.25  7
  4 Jonny          0  0  ½  X  .  ½  1  1  .  1   4.0  25.5 10.00  7
  5 Deep Shredder  0  0  ½  .  X  1  .  ½  1  1   4.0  24.5 10.00  7
  6 Spike          ½  .  ½  ½  0  X  1  .  1  ½   4.0  23.5 11.75  7
  7 Diep           .  0  0  0  .  0  X  ½  1  1   2.5  23.0  3.50  7
  8 Gandalf        0  0  .  0  ½  .  ½  X  0  1   2.0  24.0  4.25  7
  9 Isichess       .  0  0  .  0  0  0  1  X  ½   1.5  24.0  2.50  7
 10 ParSOS         0  .  .  0  0  ½  0  0  ½  X   1.0  23.5  2.75  7

[Spock]

Congratulations to the Hiarcs team !

As a bonus, no doubt Intel UK will be pleased that the free 8-way machine that they gave the Hiarcs team has been put to good use, so a 16 way machine might be the next give-away ! Go Hiarcs ! I'm looking forward to Hiarcs 12

[Tony Thomas]

Hiarcs can also claim that they did not lose any games. Over all a lucky tournament for Hiarcs. I think it's too early to say that things arent looking good for Rybka's top spot. As you all know, Rybka 3 is coming.

Tony