The Madness of Solving everything

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The Madness of Solving everything

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Areas of some darkness, obscurity and mystery are the salt of life. A solved thing is a no.more an interesting thing. Like a garden too much open to the sun, without zones of shadows to hide and listen the murmur of the leaves and be quiet. Like a woman we know to the last detail. Like a path without surprises. Like knowing what the Gioconda smiles means.
Life becomes a barren place without the unexpected. Without something unknown, there is no hope; you already knows what will be.
Same with chess. The very same day I bought my first chess computer I decided NOT to learn ways to defeat it, NOT to rem,ember how I defeated, NOT to learn openings to defeat it. My pleasure was and IS to sort it out problems as they comes, as a newcomer to chess. There is tghe adventure, the pleasure.
The cheer idea of anti computer chess, "father" kind of chess, etc is madness to me. Like telling a joke from the end.
Do not becomes glad because some nuts found a way or will find one to solve chess or to solve life or to solve this or that. Behind such an effort lurks pure idiocy under a coat of genius.

Old man knowing what must be kept unknown regards
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Help - we need to find Fern someone who will analyse his need for mystery, provide complete information about it, and then fully resolve it. :lol:
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Fern
I did not realize that you were both poetic and philosophical. What a well written piece of work.
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Bill Rogers wrote:Fern
I did not realize that you were both poetic and philosophical. What a well written piece of work.
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fern wrote:Areas of some darkness, obscurity and mystery are the salt of life. A solved thing is a no.more an interesting thing. Like a garden too much open to the sun, without zones of shadows to hide and listen the murmur of the leaves and be quiet. Like a woman we know to the last detail. Like a path without surprises. Like knowing what the Gioconda smiles means.
Life becomes a barren place without the unexpected. Without something unknown, there is no hope; you already knows what will be.
Same with chess. The very same day I bought my first chess computer I decided NOT to learn ways to defeat it, NOT to rem,ember how I defeated, NOT to learn openings to defeat it. My pleasure was and IS to sort it out problems as they comes, as a newcomer to chess. There is tghe adventure, the pleasure.
The cheer idea of anti computer chess, "father" kind of chess, etc is madness to me. Like telling a joke from the end.
Do not becomes glad because some nuts found a way or will find one to solve chess or to solve life or to solve this or that. Behind such an effort lurks pure idiocy under a coat of genius.

Old man knowing what must be kept unknown regards
Fernando
We humans should be glad when we solve anything.
Did we solve pollution or war or bigotry or intolerance?
Did we solve disease or crime or hunger or housing shortage?
Did we solve hatred or nationalism or illiteracy?

If someday we solve chess (and I would not hold my breath for that) it does not mean that anyone can memorize the quintillions of refutations in sequence. So when you and I play a game, nothing will be changed.

I know someone who thought that once a man landed on the moon it would remove all the romance of the moon. For me, it is even more so because it is physically possible to go there now.
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Dann Corbit wrote:So when you and I play a game, nothing will be changed.
I agree. But it will be cool to know what was the losing move, with distance to mate and stuff :)
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[quote="fern"]Areas of some darkness, obscurity and mystery are the salt of life. A solved thing is a no.more an interesting thing. Like a garden too much open to the sun, without zones of shadows to hide and listen the murmur of the leaves and be quiet. Like a woman we know to the last detail. Like a path without surprises. Like knowing what the Gioconda smiles means.
Life becomes a barren place without the unexpected. Without something unknown, there is no hope; you already knows what will be.
Same with chess. The very same day I bought my first chess computer I decided NOT to learn ways to defeat it, NOT to rem,ember how I defeated, NOT to learn openings to defeat it. My pleasure was and IS to sort it out problems as they comes, as a newcomer to chess. There is tghe adventure, the pleasure.
The cheer idea of anti computer chess, "father" kind of chess, etc is madness to me. Like telling a joke from the end.
Do not becomes glad because some nuts found a way or will find one to solve chess or to solve life or to solve this or that. Behind such an effort lurks pure idiocy under a coat of genius.

Old man knowing what must be kept unknown regards
Fernando[/quote

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Well, Dann, there are areas of life where in fact it is good to have solutions, I agree. Nevertheless, do not understand literary what I said.
My bst and happy new year...in mystery and concealment..
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To solve a problem is one thing: to solve the full area of problems, another one.
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Will.
I am not poet, neither philosopher, just a writer. To be one means NOT to be scientist, NOT to be enthralled with a math approach to life and on the contrary, to revel in nuances, shadows and all that Pascal called "sprit de finesse".
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