Tactical Insanity 11. Nxf7!!? Hard for Computers

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Tactical Insanity 11. Nxf7!!? Hard for Computers

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[d]rnb2rk1/ppqn1ppp/2pbp3/4N1B1/2BP4/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w - - 0 11

Don't dismiss 11. Nxf7!!? as it drives computer evals crazy, but in the end White appears to have a win. This is very tough for computers!

So I decided to post this complex position to see if any program could find 11. Nxf7!!? and follow up sacs. There is a lot to see here, and White can't can't capture the N with the R.

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Re: Tactical Insanity 11. Nxf7!!? Hard for Computers

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Terry McCracken wrote:[d]rnb2rk1/ppqn1ppp/2pbp3/4N1B1/2BP4/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w - - 0 11

Don't dismiss 11. Nxf7!!? as it drives computer evals crazy, but in the end White appears to have a win. This is very tough for computers!

So I decided to post this complex position to see if any program could find 11. Nxf7!!? and follow up sacs. There is a lot to see here, and White can't can't capture the N with the R.
11.f4 seems to win too....

Also after 11.Nxf7 Rxf7 12.Bxe6 Nf8 i don't see a clear win for white.
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Re: Tactical Insanity 11. Nxf7!!? Hard for Computers

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After 11.f4 comes Nb6 and i don't see a clear win for white.
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Re: Tactical Insanity 11. Nxf7!!? Hard for Computers

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George Tsavdaris wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:[d]rnb2rk1/ppqn1ppp/2pbp3/4N1B1/2BP4/2N5/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w - - 0 11

Don't dismiss 11. Nxf7!!? as it drives computer evals crazy, but in the end White appears to have a win. This is very tough for computers!

So I decided to post this complex position to see if any program could find 11. Nxf7!!? and follow up sacs. There is a lot to see here, and White can't can't capture the N with the R.
11.f4 seems to win too....

Also after 11.Nxf7 Rxf7 12.Bxe6 Nf8 i don't see a clear win for white.
Yes...that seems to be the Fly in the Ointment as my opponent played 11..Bxh2+ and eventually lost.

11. f4 appears better but 11..Nb6 followed by 12. Bd3 is unclear as well . I considered that move and decided to confuse my opponent with 11. Nxf7. Well I did say tactical insanity :wink: It appears that 11. Nxf7, f4 or Qe2 leave White better, not winning.

Terry