Is Naum 3.0 on a Rampage Here!?

[geots]

Leading 5 games to 3 games, Naum 3 went on a rampage and won 3 of the next 4, taking now a lead of 8.0 - 4.0


Regards,

[geots]

Please disregard the 8 - 4 to date results, as i have to replay a game that may very well change these to-date results.

Thanks,

[geots]

My apologies. I did not catch it until I had posted the above 8 - 4 update in favor of Naum. For the 1st time ever- and for some inexplicable reason Zappa had lost a game on "time" in a basically even position. Never seen that before with Zappa- but i guess anything is possible. At any rate, when i replayed the game- Zappa won. So the true update as of now is Naum 3.0 32-bit leading 7 -5 A big difference!

Again, my apologies

[Tony Thomas]

Why are you replaying the loss on time games? A loss on time is a loss just like any other loss unless it is so frequent. Replaying the games can change the result as your example shows.

[Ovyron]

I agree with Tony, if Zappa lost on time I see no reason to ignore its result. If my loses on time were ignored and these games replayed I would be a lot more successful at chess

[Tony Thomas]

I agree with Tony, if Zappa lost on time I see no reason to ignore its result. If my loses on time were ignored and these games replayed I would be a lot more successful at chess

I am afraid of George going on a rampage now..

[geots]

The answer is very simple. In CCRL, time losses by engines in basically even positions are not counted. Now if it had been on the verge of a loss- we would have adjusted the PGN to show a loss (not on time). But Zappa was in no danger of losing- and with these guis, how do we know it was Zappa's fault and not a fault of the gui? There are a bit too many "ifs" here for that. Lastly, i dont make the rules- i just follow them. But i am not putting the onus on CCRL here. I happen to agree with this policy 100%.

Best,

[Ovyron]

Lastly, i dont make the rules- i just follow them.

Ah, this was the main reason I decided to go solo on my tourneys

[geots]

Lastly, i dont make the rules- i just follow them.

Ah, this was the main reason I decided to go solo on my tourneys

I have no criticism of the way you run your tourneys, Ulysses. Each to his own, i guess. I just happen to believe CCRL is right in this case. Others may not. My Dad once said that was what made a horse race interesting- different opinions.

Best To You,

[Uri Blass]

The answer is very simple. In CCRL, time losses by engines in basically even positions are not counted. Now if it had been on the verge of a loss- we would have adjusted the PGN to show a loss (not on time). But Zappa was in no danger of losing- and with these guis, how do we know it was Zappa's fault and not a fault of the gui? There are a bit too many "ifs" here for that. Lastly, i dont make the rules- i just follow them. But i am not putting the onus on CCRL here. I happen to agree with this policy 100%.

Best,

I wonder if there is statistics about lossed on time of different engines.
If one engine suffer from losses on time more than most engines then there is a reason to believe that it may be the fault of the engine but
it is not a proof because if the gui is buggy and reduce 0.1-0.2 seconds from the time of an engine in every move then engines that use almost all their time(except 0.2 seconds in the last move of the time control) may lose on time based on the interface when the same thing is not going to happen with engines that are less aggresive in using their time.

Uri