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Re: Common Source??

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Denis P. Mendoza wrote:
gerold wrote:Thanks Denis. Thinker won the first game.
I anticipated that Gerold :D . Thinker is one Chess "Terminator" nowadays even if "Passive" :) :) :) . I'm hats off for this Lance Perkins engine.

But wait till another learning-enabled chess engine like Obender and Romichess be released soon. Let's say it's another sibling of the TOGA:Source Engine. Romichess will have a forminable opponent in this field. Thomas and Daniel knows about this, so this is no rumor. I mentioned it before - LearningToga by William "Bill" Mowery Jr. If you loved Romichess (just as I do), why not this one. I have no infos about the release date, but was informed by Bill today.
When I wrote RomiChess the main goal was the learning ability (ver P2 and above). It made a 2100+ ELO engine very interesting! And a good sparring partner for human vs computer games with the right interface (sends a result command for human vs computer games).

I never intended to be 'the authority' on learning. Rather I just wanted to show other authors that there is a huge and exciting untaped potential for new learning algorithms THAT REALLY WORK IN A HUGE WAY.

I will be very happy if an open source Toga does learning better than I have. :D
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Michael, may be you should add Learning to Toga. There is no point in waiting for someone else to steal your code and use it in Toga and get their name on the long list of Toga Hall of Famers.
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Tony Thomas wrote:Michael, may be you should add Learning to Toga. There is no point in waiting for someone else to steal your code and use it in Toga and get their name on the long list of Toga Hall of Famers.
When I tried to do that awhile ago I looked for Toga's history stack, inorder to add learning. Toga does not have a history stack! :shock:

If I were to try again, I would just simply have Toga create a learning-log file with the moves and scores then learn from that.

However, it sounds that I may be a bit too late. :oops:
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Michael Sherwin wrote:However, it sounds that I may be a bit too late. :oops:
Why? I think it's never late, for anything, if it can still be done (I'd like to see learning for Toga II 3.1.2SE ;) ).
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Then I will have another look! :D
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Michael Sherwin wrote:Then I will have another look! :D
That's a great idea Mike!

But I assure you, since I've seen the first engine codes, there was no stealing of learning code from Romichess. Bill has the same purpose as yours, adding a learning algorithm, gather data through games played, and evolve as a stronger engine in the process.

It isn't an original engine made from scratch, only based on Toga 1.2.1. But it followed all requirements of GPL which is most important. I hope that it will be open to the public soon.
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Re: Common Source??

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There's a new Woodpecker 1.02.01 at E. Korniloff's site:

http://evgeniy-korniloff.narod.ru/files ... _02_01.zip