best engine in closed positions?

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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by swami »

mercury wrote:Which engine play the best in closed positions?
BugChess.

From the games I've seen so far.

But I think opening book plays role here, for example you should design a closed position opening book which has in depth variations of closed sicilian, English ,Stonewall etc and find engines that play closed position till the end.
ArmyBridge

Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by ArmyBridge »

mercury wrote:Which engine play the best in closed positions?
Good question... It depends, I mean, Pablo Restrepo used to play closed positions and draw almost all its games, but see what happen to him when he attempt play the trick vs Chess Tiger anti-human setting, Chess Tiger broken all his stone wall´s :lol: and pablo was badly beaten.Along my expereince in compu chess is very rare to see that 2 engines reach a closed position, because all engines manuver very good open positions, once I see a game between Gambit Tiger 2 and Junior 7 (SSDF base), for me this game was very rare, Gambit Tiger (white) began to close the position just like a GM do, suddenly Junior 7 didn´t know what to do and GT get a nice win. So it depends what do you mean when you say "play the best", look at Pablo-Tiger match we would say that Chess Tiger played the best in closed position because it beat Pablo, but in other tread Marc show us a closed Position that Rybka 3 played very bad. In general I think Fritz 11 , Shredder 11 and Naum 3.1 are the best in this field, but again it depends. :wink:
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Tony Thomas

Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Tony Thomas »

Ovyron wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote: Ulysses, didnt you post a trick few days ago to make Thinker analyze?
If by analyze you meant "make Thinker show scores", then yes. If you don't know how to analyze by only using scores for the moves then it's useless (as the PV is unreliable and Infinite analysis doesn't work.)

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=5165
Thinker does show score here, but only after it makes the move..Which means that it wont be posted in the pgn.
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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by ernest »

ArmyBridge wrote:Pablo Restrepo used to play closed positions and draw almost all its games, but see what happen to him when he attempt play the trick vs Chess Tiger anti-human setting, Chess Tiger broken all his stone wall´s :lol: and pablo was badly beaten.
Hi Armando,
Do you have a link for the match Pablo vs. Chess Tiger anti-human setting?
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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Ovyron »

ernest wrote:Do you have a link for the match Pablo vs. Chess Tiger anti-human setting?
Did Pablo post the games? I recall he told us that he could not draw against the anti-human setting then he proceeded to post games about how he was able to draw against the default setting.
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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Ovyron wrote:
ernest wrote:Do you have a link for the match Pablo vs. Chess Tiger anti-human setting?
Did Pablo post the games? I recall he told us that he could not draw against the anti-human setting then he proceeded to post games about how he was able to draw against the default setting.
Correct,that was the case 8-)
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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Ovyron »

Well, it seems posts older than March 2007* have been deleted so there's nowhere to link for those Pablo's games.

* Not counting announcement posts.
ArmyBridge

Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by ArmyBridge »

ernest wrote:
ArmyBridge wrote:Pablo Restrepo used to play closed positions and draw almost all its games, but see what happen to him when he attempt play the trick vs Chess Tiger anti-human setting, Chess Tiger broken all his stone wall´s :lol: and pablo was badly beaten.
Hi Armando,
Do you have a link for the match Pablo vs. Chess Tiger anti-human setting?
Hi yes I have some games:
[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Batman98"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C96"]
[WhiteElo "2689"]
[BlackElo "1968"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventDate "2006.11.15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {0} e5 {2} 2. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {1} 3. Bb5 {0} a6 {1} 4. Ba4 {0} Nf6 {1} 5. O-O
{0} b5 {0} 6. Bb3 {0} Be7 {0} 7. Re1 {0} d6 {1} 8. c3 {0} O-O {1} 9. h3 {0} Na5
{1} 10. Bc2 {0} c5 {0} 11. d4 {0} Nc6 {0} 12. d5 {0} Na7 {4} 13. a4 {0} Qc7 {4}
14. Na3 {-0.22/9 3} Bd7 {(Bb7) 1} 15. b3 {-0.38/10 4} Rfb8 {1} 16. Bd3 {
-0.38/11 1} g6 {(bxa4) 15} 17. Bh6 {-0.12/9 3} Ne8 {(bxa4) 2} 18. axb5 {
-0.06/10 3} axb5 {1} 19. Re2 {0.02/11 1} Nc8 {(b4) 9} 20. Rea2 {0.04/11 4} b4 {
(Qd8) 15} 21. cxb4 {0.36/13 5} cxb4 {1} 22. Nc4 {0.32/12 2} Rxa2 {2} 23. Rxa2 {
0.30/11 1} Nb6 {2} 24. Be3 {0.36/11 0} Nxc4 {2} 25. bxc4 {0.56/13 5} b3 {
(Rb7) 5} 26. Ra7 {1.10/13 3} Rb7 {2} 27. Rxb7 {1} Qxb7 {1.16/13 0} 28. c5 {
0.74/12 4} dxc5 {3} 29. Nxe5 {1.10/12 7} Ba4 {12} 30. Nc4 {0.92/11 0} Nd6 {
(Bf8) 13} 31. Nb2 {1.40/11 3} c4 {4} 32. e5 {1.32/12 0} cxd3 {2} 33. exd6 {
0.80/14 16} Bxd6 {8} 34. Nxa4 {0.76/14 3} Qxd5 {(b2) 2} 35. Nb2 {1.49/12 8} Be5
{8} 36. Nxd3 {1.57/13 11} b2 {(Bc3) 5} 37. Nxb2 {4.12/12 3} Qxd1+ {(Qe4) 3} 38.
Nxd1 {Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.46s, max=0.8s) 3.68/1 0} 1-0

[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Batman98"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1932"]
[BlackElo "2689"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[EventDate "2006.11.15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {1} Nf6 {1} 2. e3 {1} e6 {0} 3. f4 {1} d5 {0} 4. Nf3 {1} c5 {0} 5. Bb5+ {
1} Bd7 {0} 6. Bxd7+ {1} Nbxd7 {0} 7. c3 {1} Bd6 {0} 8. O-O {1} O-O {0} 9. g3 {1
} a5 {0} 10. Qd3 {1} Ne4 {0.00/10 4} 11. Kg2 {(a4) 1} a4 {-0.17/9 3} 12. a3 {1}
Qc7 {0.00/10 6} 13. Nbd2 {1} Ndf6 {-0.08/11 4} 14. Re1 {(Qc2) 1} Rfb8 {
-0.14/10 6} 15. Qe2 {(Ng5) 1} Nxd2 {-0.18/10 3} 16. Bxd2 {2} b5 {-0.16/10 2}
17. Reb1 {(Rec1) 1} Ne4 {-0.16/9 3} 18. Ra2 {(Be1) 1} f6 {-0.40/9 3} 19. Rba1 {
(Raa1) 1} Qd7 {-0.54/9 4} 20. Be1 {(Rg1) 1} e5 {-0.58/11 7} 21. Qd3 {(Rd1) 3}
cxd4 {-0.72/11 3} 22. cxd4 {(fxe5) 1} exf4 {-0.64/12 3} 23. exf4 {1} b4 {
-0.24/12 24} 24. axb4 {3} Bxb4 {-0.28/11 0} 25. Bxb4 {(b3) 11} Rxb4 {-0.38/9 0}
26. Nd2 {(b3) 7} Rab8 {-1.12/11 2} 27. Nxe4 {(Kg1) 2} dxe4 {-2.12/10 1} 28.
Qxe4 {(Qe2) 1} Rxd4 {Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.42s, max=0.6s) -2.34/13 25} 0-1

[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Batman98"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C96"]
[WhiteElo "2689"]
[BlackElo "1896"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "49"]
[EventDate "2006.11.15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {0} 3. Bb5 {0} a6 {0} 4. Ba4 {0} Nf6 {1} 5. O-O
{0} b5 {0} 6. Bb3 {0} Be7 {0} 7. Re1 {0} d6 {0} 8. c3 {0} O-O {0} 9. h3 {0} Na5
{0} 10. Bc2 {0} c5 {0} 11. d4 {0} Nc6 {1} 12. d5 {0} Na7 {1} 13. a4 {0} Qb6 {6}
14. b3 {-0.20/9 4} Bd7 {(Rd8) 1} 15. Be3 {-0.22/10 5} Qb7 {(Qc7) 3} 16. Nfd2 {
-0.16/10 9} Rfb8 {(Nc8) 2} 17. f4 {0.24/11 3} Ne8 {(exf4) 8} 18. fxe5 {
0.62/11 8} dxe5 {1} 19. Rf1 {0.82/10 6} f6 {(Qc7) 1} 20. Ra2 {0.66/9 3} Bd6 {
(Nc8) 2} 21. Bd3 {0.60/10 5} Nc8 {1} 22. Qe1 {0.62/10 8} Nc7 {(Ne7) 2} 23. Qf2
{1.18/11 2} Qa7 {(Ne8) 23} 24. b4 {3.21/12 3} bxa4 {(Ne6) 8} 25. bxc5 {
Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.44s, max=0.6s) 5.70/13 3} 1-0

[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Batman98"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A03"]
[WhiteElo "1860"]
[BlackElo "2689"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "40"]
[EventDate "2006.11.15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {2} Nf6 {0} 2. f4 {1} d5 {0} 3. e3 {0} g6 {0} 4. Nf3 {1} Bg7 {0} 5. Bb5+
{1} c6 {0} 6. Bd3 {2} Bf5 {0} 7. O-O {1} Ne4 {0.14/10 5} 8. c3 {(Ne5) 1} O-O {
0.00/10 7} 9. Qe2 {(Bc2) 1} e6 {-0.08/9 3} 10. Nbd2 {(Qe1) 2} Nd7 {-0.04/11 4}
11. Re1 {(Bxe4) 1} Qe7 {-0.32/9 2} 12. Nf1 {(Bb1) 0} Rac8 {-0.30/9 5} 13. Ng3 {
(h3) 1} Nxg3 {3} 14. hxg3 {-0.44/12 0} Nf6 {-0.54/11 3} 15. Nh2 {(b3) 6} Bxd3 {
-1.10/12 3} 16. Qxd3 {1} Ne4 {-1.04/12 3} 17. Nf1 {(g4) 1} c5 {-1.06/9 4} 18.
Qe2 {(Kh2) 1} Rc7 {-1.10/9 6} 19. g4 {(Qf3) 1} Qh4 {-1.14/10 4} 20. Qf3 {
(Bd2) 2} Qxe1 {Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.42s, max=0.7s) -7.82/10 1} 0-1

[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Batman98"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C90"]
[WhiteElo "2697"]
[BlackElo "1824"]
[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo Ignacio"]
[PlyCount "55"]
[EventDate "2006.11.15"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {0} 3. Bb5 {0} a6 {0} 4. Ba4 {0} Nf6 {1} 5. O-O
{0} b5 {0} 6. Bb3 {0} Be7 {0} 7. Re1 {0} d6 {0} 8. c3 {0} Na5 {0} 9. Bc2 {0} c5
{1} 10. d4 {0} Nc6 {2} 11. d5 {0} Na7 {1} 12. b4 {0} c4 {1} 13. a4 {0} Qb6 {2}
14. Be3 {0} Qb7 {1} 15. Qc1 {0} O-O {2} 16. axb5 {0} axb5 {1} 17. h3 {
-0.68/11 3} Bd7 {(Bd8) 2} 18. Re2 {-0.72/11 3} Rfb8 {(Nc8) 1} 19. Na3 {
-1.00/11 3} Nc8 {2} 20. Bb1 {-1.30/11 4} Ne8 {(Bd8) 1} 21. Ng5 {-0.92/10 3} h6
{21} 22. Nf3 {-1.12/14 0} f6 {(Ra4) 3} 23. Qd1 {-0.56/11 3} Kh7 {(Bd8) 9} 24.
Rea2 {-0.42/11 3} Nb6 {(Bd8) 3} 25. Bxb6 {0.94/13 3} Qxb6 {1} 26. Nxc4 {
0.98/15 9} bxc4 {(Qb7) 27} 27. Rxa8 {3.00/12 1} Rxa8 {2} 28. Rxa8 {
Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.46s, max=0.8s) 3.58/13 2} 1-0

[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C05"]
[WhiteElo "2585"]
[BlackElo "2012"]
[PlyCount "41"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 3. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 4. e5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Ng8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 5. Ndf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} c6 {
[%emt 0:00:39]} 6. c3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bd3 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} b5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 8. a4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:01]}
9. axb5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} cxb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 10. Ne2 {[%emt 0:00:14]} Ra7 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nf4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 12. Nh4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 13. Nhg6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} fxg6 {
[%emt 0:00:12]} 14. Nxg6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 15. Nxh8 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 16. Qh5+ {[%emt 0:00:03]} Kd8 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 17. Nf7+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 18. Nd6 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Qd8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 19. Qf7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Rb7 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 20. f4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Nbc6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 21. f5 {
Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.61s, max=1.0s) [%emt 0:00:03]} 1-0


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A45"]
[WhiteElo "2012"]
[BlackElo "2590"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. f4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} d5 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 3. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 4. e3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 5. exd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 6. c3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bf5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 7. Bd3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 8. Qxd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 9. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 10. Kh1 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 11. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} O-O {
[%emt 0:00:10]} 12. g3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 13. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 14. Nbd2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rfe8 {
[%emt 0:00:07]} 15. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bc7 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 16. Ne3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Nd6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 17. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nfe4 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 18. Ne3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Qb5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 19. Qxb5 {
[%emt 0:00:14]} Nxb5 {[%emt 0:00:17]} 20. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 21. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 22. Nf1 {
[%emt 0:00:08]} Nd6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 23. Re2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf5 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 24. Kh1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 25. Ne3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Nd6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 26. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%emt 0:00:10]} 27. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 28. N3d2 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Nb6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 29. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ne4 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 30. N3d2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nxd2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 31. Bxd2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Nc4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 32. Be1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} g5 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 33. fxg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} hxg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 34. Ne3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxe3+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Rxe3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} f5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 36. Rf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rh8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 37. Bd2 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Rag8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Rg1 {[%emt 0:00:04]} f4 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 39. g4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 40. dxe5 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Bxe5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 41. h3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Rd8 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 42. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kd6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 43. Re2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Rde8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 44. Be1 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Bg7 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 45. Rxe8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rxe8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Kf2 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 47. cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bxd4+ {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 48. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rxe1 {Father rinde [%emt 0:00:01]} 0-1


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A85"]
[WhiteElo "2601"]
[BlackElo "2012"]
[PlyCount "93"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 2. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 4. Nc3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 5. Bf4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]
} 6. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 7. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qc7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Bxd6 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Qxd6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Ne2 {[%emt 0:00:07]} g6 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 11. Nf4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} Re8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 12. cxd5 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} exd5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 13. Bc2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Kg7 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 14. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Nbd7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 15. Qe2 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Ne5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Ne6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 17. Nfd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 18. Nf3 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 19. Red1 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Nf8 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 20. Nfe5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} N8d7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 21. Qe1 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 22. Rab1 {[%emt 0:00:11]} N8d7 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 23. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 24. Nf4 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 25. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Ne6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 26. Nd3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 27. Nfe5 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} N8d7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 28. Ra1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Nf8 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 29. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} N8d7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 30. Kh1 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 31. h3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} h5 {[%emt 0:00:01]
} 32. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Re7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 33. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kg8 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 34. Nde5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rg7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Rab1 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} N6d7 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 36. Nd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 37. g3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Kh8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 38. Nfe5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} N8d7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 39. g4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} hxg4 {
[%emt 0:00:17]} 40. hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Nxg4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 41. Nxg4 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} fxg4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 42. e4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} dxe4 {
[%emt 0:00:08]} 43. Qxe4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 44. Qe5 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Qd5 {[%emt 0:00:15]} 45. Qxf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bf5 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 46. Rbc1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Kg8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 47. Bb3 {
Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.53s, max=1.7s) [%emt 0:00:01]} 1-0


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A45"]
[WhiteElo "2012"]
[BlackElo "2597"]
[PlyCount "78"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. e3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} d5 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 3. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bf5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 4. f4 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 5. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 7. Qxd3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:04]
} 9. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. g3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qe7 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 11. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 12. Nbd2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Ndf6 {[%emt 0:00:11]} 13. Qe2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc7 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 14. Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 15. exd4 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Nd6 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 16. Qe2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf5 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 17. Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rfe8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 18. Nf1 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 19. N1d2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Ned6 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 20. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 21. N1d2 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Qg6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 22. Qe2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} f6 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 23. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 24. Kh1 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 25. fxe5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} fxe5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Nxe5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bxe5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 27. dxe5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Rxe5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Bf4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nexg3+ {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 29. Nxg3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Rxe2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 30. Rxe2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} d4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 31. cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Qc6+ {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 32. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Nxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Rf2 {
[%emt 0:00:07]} Nf3+ {[%emt 0:00:03]} 34. Rxf3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Qxf3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 35. Rf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 36. Rf2 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Rf8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 37. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Qd5+ {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 38. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Qd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 39. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Rxf4 {Father rinde [%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C68"]
[WhiteElo "2608"]
[BlackElo "2012"]
[PlyCount "23"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 4. Bxc6 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} dxc6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 5. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 6. h3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 7. Qxf3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 8. Qg3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:02]
} 9. d4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Qb3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Ne7 {
[%emt 0:00:12]} 11. f4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} exd4 {[%emt 0:00:10]} 12. e5 {
Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.59s, max=1.2s) [%emt 0:00:00]} 1-0


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A45"]
[WhiteElo "2012"]
[BlackElo "2605"]
[PlyCount "74"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. e3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} d5 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 3. c3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bf5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 4. Bd3 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Bxd3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 5. Qxd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} c6 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 6. f4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 7. Nf3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 9. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 10. g3 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 11. Nbd2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ne7 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 12. Re2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf5 {[%emt 0:00:09]} 13. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Qc7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 14. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qe7 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 15. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} b6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 16. Kg2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Rac8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 17. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rb8 {
[%emt 0:00:04]} 18. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rfc8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 19. Kg1 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Rd8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 20. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rbc8 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 21. Kg1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 22. h4 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 23. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} b5 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 24. a3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} b4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 25. axb4 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} cxb4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 26. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:03]} f6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 27. Be1 {[%emt 0:00:06]} bxc3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 28. bxc3 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} g5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 29. hxg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} fxg5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 30. fxg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rf8 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 31. Ne5 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Qxg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 32. Rxa7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Nh4+ {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 33. Kh2 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Bxe5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 34. dxe5 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Rxf1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 35. gxh4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Qg1+ {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Kh3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rf3+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 37. Bg3 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} Qxg3# {[%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Black "Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C45"]
[WhiteElo "2594"]
[BlackElo "2012"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 3. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} exd4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 4. Nxd4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 5. Qxd4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qf6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 6. e5 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Qb6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 7. Qxb6 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} axb6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 8. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Ne7 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 9. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:14]} Kd8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 10. Bc4 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} Ng6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 11. Bg5+ {[%emt 0:00:05]} Be7 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 12. Bxe7+ {[%emt 0:00:04]} Nxe7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 13. O-O-O {
[%emt 0:00:06]} Rf8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 14. Rhe1 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Nc6 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} 15. a3 {Father rinde (Lag: Av=0.56s, max=0.8s) [%emt 0:00:04]}
1-0


[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2006.11.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "GeorgeTsavdaris, Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00"]
[WhiteElo "2012"]
[BlackElo "2611"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. a3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 2. d4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} e6 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 3. e3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 4. Nf3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 5. Bb5+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd7 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. Bxd7+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nbxd7 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 7. c3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Bd6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:01]} O-O {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 9. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Qc7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Nbd2 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 11. h3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} f5 {[%emt 0:00:03]
} 12. Nf1 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 13. dxc5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Ndxc5
{[%emt 0:00:06]} 14. Nd4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 15. Nd2 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Bh2+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 16. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nd3 {
[%emt 0:00:06]} 17. Re2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qg3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 18. Nxe4 {
[%emt 0:00:10]} fxe4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 19. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Raf8 {
[%emt 0:00:02]} 20. f4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} exf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 21. Nxf3 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Rxf3+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 22. gxf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Qg1# {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1
Regards 8-)
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Wow,so many hits in Father's butt must hurt :lol:
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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Ovyron
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Re: best engine in closed positions?

Post by Ovyron »

Thanks for the games! People have always asked for an engine that doesn't fall for Father tricks on its default setting, now I'll point them to Gambit Tiger 8-)