Kaufman on Dzindzichashvili - Rybka Handicap Match

[plattyaj]

ChessBase has an article by Larry on the recent match between Rybka and Dzindzi. I found it most interesting for the comments about the choices of opening:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4822

His closing sentences give food for thought too:

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success? We are clearly not there yet, but I think this is a realistic goal. Not since Paul Morphy retired has anyone (or anything) offered pawn and move to any human alive, but perhaps it will happen again.

Andy.

[Karmazen & Oliver]

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success?

NO. that is not posibble.

kaufman have his "evaluation" ponderation on +2 favor to rybka...

I don´t lost against rybka if I have a pawn and move on handicap..

that is not posible.

the problem in that match is that roman are un bad finnes ... I´m sure... a GM never CAN lost with that handicap. is a lot of ¡

[Graham Banks]

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success?

NO. that is not posibble.

kaufman have his "evaluation" ponderation on +2 favor to rybka...

I don´t lost against rybka if I have a pawn and move on handicap..

that is not posible.

the problem in that match is that roman are un bad finnes ... I´m sure... a GM never CAN lost with that handicap. is a lot of ¡

I think you're wrong Oliver. It's not that far away from becoming reality.
Rybka 3 could beat many GMs already with those odds.

[AdminX]

ChessBase has an article by Larry on the recent match between Rybka and Dzindzi. I found it most interesting for the comments about the choices of opening:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4822

His closing sentences give food for thought too:

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success? We are clearly not there yet, but I think this is a realistic goal. Not since Paul Morphy retired has anyone (or anything) offered pawn and move to any human alive, but perhaps it will happen again.

Andy.

Funny he should write this, I just started a pawn and move match with Zappa Mexico. Rybka 3 is playing Baleck. The Time control is 2hours pre side.

[d]rnbqkbnr/1ppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -

[AdminX]

The result was a Draw. I think Zappa made a endgame mistake in a Rook and pawn endgame.

[Event "[#24] Zappa Mexico II x64 - Ry"]
[Site "Local computer"]
[Date "2008.08.09"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Zappa Mexico II x64"]
[Black "Rybka 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/1ppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[TimeControl "2 hour/game"]

{[%t Long] Draw by repetition. (1/2-1/2)}{[%t bLon] Processor: Intel(R)
Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz^13 ^10 White: Zappa Mexico II x64, hash
size: 32M, opening book: NarrowBook^13 ^10 Black: Rybka 3, hash size: 32M,
opening book: NarrowBook^13 ^10 } 1. e4 {[%clk 1:45:34][%clko 2:00:00][%emt
0:14:24]}{[%eval 75,18]}{[%t bLon] White out of book}{Black out of book} 1...
Nf6 {[%clk 1:58:13][%clko 1:45:34][%emt 0:01:45]}{[%eval 38,17]} 2. e5 {[%clk
1:38:17][%clko 1:58:13][%emt 0:07:18]}{[%eval 90,18]} 2... Nd5 {[%clk
1:55:11][%clko 1:38:17][%emt 0:03:03]}{[%eval 43,18]} 3. Nf3 {[%clk
1:30:21][%clko 1:55:11][%emt 0:07:56]}{[%eval 95,18]} 3... d6 {[%clk
1:53:19][%clko 1:30:21][%emt 0:01:53]}{[%eval 41,17]} 4. d4 {[%clk
1:25:52][%clko 1:53:19][%emt 0:04:30]}{[%eval 92,17]} 4... g6 {[%clk
1:52:17][%clko 1:25:52][%emt 0:01:02]}{[%eval 43,15]} 5. exd6 {[%clk
1:18:16][%clko 1:52:17][%emt 0:07:36]}{[%eval 104,17]} 5... cxd6 {[%clk
1:49:51][%clko 1:18:16][%emt 0:02:26]}{[%eval 47,17]} 6. Bb5+ {[%clk
1:13:37][%clko 1:49:51][%emt 0:04:39]}{[%eval 106,14]} 6... Nc6 {[%clk
1:47:58][%clko 1:13:37][%emt 0:01:53]}{[%eval 24,18]} 7. c4 {[%clk
1:11:07][%clko 1:47:58][%emt 0:02:30]}{[%eval 94,16]} 7... Nc7 {[%clk
1:45:41][%clko 1:11:07][%emt 0:02:18]}{[%eval 42,18]} 8. d5 {[%clk
1:07:55][%clko 1:45:41][%emt 0:03:12]}{[%eval 94,17]} 8... Nxb5 {[%clk
1:45:41][%clko 1:07:55]}{[%eval 42,16]} 9. cxb5 {[%clk 1:04:57][%clko
1:45:41][%emt 0:02:57]}{[%eval 95,18]} 9... Ne5 {[%clk 1:42:47][%clko
1:04:57][%emt 0:02:54]}{[%eval 32,17]} 10. Nxe5 {[%clk 1:02:29][%clko
1:42:47][%emt 0:02:29]}{[%eval 96,18]} 10... dxe5 {[%clk 1:36:56][%clko
1:02:29][%emt 0:05:51]}{[%eval 45,19]} 11. O-O {[%clk 0:59:36][%clko
1:36:56][%emt 0:02:52]}{[%eval 98,19]} 11... Bg7 {[%clk 1:28:56][%clko
0:59:36][%emt 0:08:00]}{[%eval 59,20]} 12. Nc3 {[%clk 0:53:35][%clko
1:28:56][%emt 0:06:00]}{[%eval 98,17]} 12... O-O {[%clk 1:27:01][%clko
0:53:35][%emt 0:01:55]}{[%eval 59,18]} 13. Be3 {[%clk 0:52:17][%clko
1:27:01][%emt 0:01:19]}{[%eval 106,17]} 13... h5 {[%clk 1:25:51][%clko
0:52:17][%emt 0:01:10]}{[%eval 51,16]} 14. Na4 {[%clk 0:50:21][%clko
1:25:51][%emt 0:01:55]}{[%eval 119,17]} 14... Bg4 {[%clk 1:21:15][%clko
0:50:21][%emt 0:04:37]}{[%eval 93,17]} 15. Qb3 {[%clk 0:48:45][%clko
1:21:15][%emt 0:01:35]}{[%eval 130,17]} 15... Qd6 {[%clk 1:20:10][%clko
0:48:45][%emt 0:01:04]}{[%eval 93,14]} 16. Nc5 {[%clk 0:47:36][%clko
1:20:10][%emt 0:01:10]}{[%eval 138,16]} 16... Rab8 {[%clk 1:17:32][%clko
0:47:36][%emt 0:02:38]}{[%eval 103,18]} 17. Ne4 {[%clk 0:46:28][%clko
1:17:32][%emt 0:01:08]}{[%eval 149,18]} 17... Qd7 {[%clk 1:15:28][%clko
0:46:28][%emt 0:02:04]}{[%eval 117,17]} 18. f3 {[%clk 0:45:22][%clko
1:15:28][%emt 0:01:06]}{[%eval 154,18]} 18... Bf5 {[%clk 1:15:28][%clko
0:45:22]}{[%eval 117,16]} 19. Rac1 {[%clk 0:43:22][%clko 1:15:28][%emt
0:02:00]}{[%eval 153,19]} 19... Rfc8 {[%clk 1:12:16][%clko 0:43:22][%emt
0:03:12]}{[%eval 117,17]} 20. b6 {[%clk 0:42:00][%clko 1:12:16][%emt 0:01:22]}
{[%eval 162,18]} 20... Bxe4 {[%clk 1:06:59][%clko 0:42:00][%emt 0:05:17]}
{[%eval 116,19]} 21. fxe4 {[%clk 0:40:36][%clko 1:06:59][%emt 0:01:23]}{[%eval
170,19]} 21... Ra8 {[%clk 1:06:24][%clko 0:40:36][%emt 0:00:34]}{[%eval
116,19]} 22. Rc7 {[%clk 0:39:06][%clko 1:06:24][%emt 0:01:30]}{[%eval 182,18]}
22... Rxc7 {[%clk 1:06:24][%clko 0:39:06]}{[%eval 116,17]} 23. bxc7 {[%clk
0:39:06][%clko 1:06:24]}{[%eval 182,18]} 23... Qxc7 {[%clk 1:06:24][%clko
0:39:06]}{[%eval 116,17]} 24. Rxf7 {[%clk 0:39:06][%clko 1:06:24]}{[%eval
182,17]} 24... Qa5 {[%clk 1:01:25][%clko 0:39:06][%emt 0:04:59]}{[%eval
128,19]} 25. Rf1 {[%clk 0:34:54][%clko 1:01:25][%emt 0:04:12]}{[%eval 160,18]}
25... Qxa2 {[%clk 1:00:40][%clko 0:34:54][%emt 0:00:45]}{[%eval 109,19]} 26.
Qxb7 {[%clk 0:33:03][%clko 1:00:40][%emt 0:01:50]}{[%eval 159,18]} 26... Rf8
{[%clk 0:58:55][%clko 0:33:03][%emt 0:01:45]}{[%eval 107,20]} 27. Re1 {[%clk
0:31:56][%clko 0:58:55][%emt 0:01:07]}{[%eval 130,17]} 27... Qc4 {[%clk
0:58:04][%clko 0:31:56][%emt 0:00:51]}{[%eval 80,18]} 28. Qxe7 {[%clk
0:30:34][%clko 0:58:04][%emt 0:01:21]}{[%eval 122,17]} 28... Qxe4 {[%clk
0:57:20][%clko 0:30:34][%emt 0:00:44]}{[%eval 61,17]} 29. d6 {[%clk
0:28:05][%clko 0:57:20][%emt 0:02:30]}{[%eval 124,18]} 29... Bh6 {[%clk
0:56:34][%clko 0:28:05][%emt 0:00:46]}{[%eval 52,19]} 30. Qe6+ {[%clk
0:27:11][%clko 0:56:34][%emt 0:00:54]}{[%eval 118,18]} 30... Kh7 {[%clk
0:56:34][%clko 0:27:11]}{[%eval 52,18]} 31. Qb3 {[%clk 0:26:07][%clko
0:56:34][%emt 0:01:04]}{[%eval 113,18]} 31... Rf6 {[%clk 0:55:42][%clko
0:26:07][%emt 0:00:52]}{[%eval 53,18]} 32. Qc3 {[%clk 0:24:38][%clko
0:55:42][%emt 0:01:29]}{[%eval 111,18]} 32... Bxe3+ {[%clk 0:54:48][%clko
0:24:38][%emt 0:00:54]}{[%eval 56,18]} 33. Rxe3 {[%clk 0:23:39][%clko
0:54:48][%emt 0:00:59]}{[%eval 106,18]} 33... Qh4 {[%clk 0:53:25][%clko
0:23:39][%emt 0:01:22]}{[%eval 56,19]} 34. g3 {[%clk 0:22:53][%clko
0:53:25][%emt 0:00:45]}{[%eval 108,16]} 34... Qa4 {[%clk 0:52:35][%clko
0:22:53][%emt 0:00:50]}{[%eval 52,19]} 35. Qxe5 {[%clk 0:22:04][%clko
0:52:35][%emt 0:00:50]}{[%eval 100,16]} 35... Qa1+ {[%clk 0:52:11][%clko
0:22:04][%emt 0:00:24]}{[%eval 52,19]} 36. Re1 {[%clk 0:22:04][%clko 0:52:11]}
{[%eval 100,15]} 36... Qa7+ {[%clk 0:52:11][%clko 0:22:04]}{[%eval 52,18]} 37.
Qe3 {[%clk 0:21:18][%clko 0:52:11][%emt 0:00:46]}{[%eval 97,18]} 37... Qxe3+
{[%clk 0:52:11][%clko 0:21:18]}{[%eval 52,18]} 38. Rxe3 {[%clk 0:21:18][%clko
0:52:11]}{[%eval 97,18]} 38... Rxd6 {[%clk 0:52:10][%clko 0:21:18]}{[%eval
52,18]} 39. Kf2 {[%clk 0:20:33][%clko 0:52:10][%emt 0:00:45]}{[%eval 90,19]}
39... Rb6 {[%clk 0:49:24][%clko 0:20:33][%emt 0:02:46]}{[%eval 57,23]} 40. b3
{[%clk 0:20:02][%clko 0:49:24][%emt 0:00:30]}{[%eval 93,18]} 40... g5 {[%clk
0:47:39][%clko 0:20:02][%emt 0:01:45]}{[%eval 64,23]} 41. Kf3 {[%clk
0:19:29][%clko 0:47:39][%emt 0:00:34]}{[%eval 97,18]} 41... Rb8 {[%clk
0:46:37][%clko 0:19:29][%emt 0:01:02]}{[%eval 63,23]} 42. Ke4 {[%clk
0:18:55][%clko 0:46:37][%emt 0:00:33]}{[%eval 116,18]} 42... Kg6 {[%clk
0:45:40][%clko 0:18:55][%emt 0:00:57]}{[%eval 67,23]} 43. h3 {[%clk
0:18:21][%clko 0:45:40][%emt 0:00:34]}{[%eval 116,19]} 43... Kf6 {[%clk
0:44:47][%clko 0:18:21][%emt 0:00:53]}{[%eval 75,21]} 44. Kd5 {[%clk
0:17:47][%clko 0:44:47][%emt 0:00:34]}{[%eval 115,19]} 44... Kf5 {[%clk
0:43:31][%clko 0:17:47][%emt 0:01:16]}{[%eval 88,22]} 45. Rf3+ {[%clk
0:16:51][%clko 0:43:31][%emt 0:00:56]}{[%eval 115,19]} 45... Kg6 {[%clk
0:43:31][%clko 0:16:51]}{[%eval 88,20]} 46. Rc3 {[%clk 0:16:22][%clko
0:43:31][%emt 0:00:28]}{[%eval 115,19]} 46... Kf5 {[%clk 0:42:47][%clko
0:16:22][%emt 0:00:44]}{[%eval 88,22]} 47. Rc5 {[%clk 0:15:40][%clko
0:42:47][%emt 0:00:44]}{[%eval 116,19]} 47... Rb4 {[%clk 0:41:38][%clko
0:15:40][%emt 0:01:09]}{[%eval 87,22]} 48. Kd6+ {[%clk 0:15:02][%clko
0:41:38][%emt 0:00:38]}{[%eval 116,19]} 48... Kf6 {[%clk 0:41:14][%clko
0:15:02][%emt 0:00:23]}{[%eval 86,22]} 49. Rc3 {[%clk 0:15:02][%clko 0:41:14]}
{[%eval 116,19]} 49... Rb5 {[%clk 0:40:42][%clko 0:15:02][%emt 0:00:32]}{[%eval
89,23]} 50. Kc6 {[%clk 0:14:20][%clko 0:40:42][%emt 0:00:41]}{[%eval 116,19]}
50... Rb8 {[%clk 0:40:23][%clko 0:14:20][%emt 0:00:19]}{[%eval 88,23]} 51. Kc5
{[%clk 0:13:47][%clko 0:40:23][%emt 0:00:33]}{[%eval 116,19]} 51... Rc8+ {[%clk
0:38:48][%clko 0:13:47][%emt 0:01:35]}{[%eval 100,23]} 52. Kd4 {[%clk
0:13:16][%clko 0:38:48][%emt 0:00:30]}{[%eval 116,19]} 52... Rd8+ {[%clk
0:37:55][%clko 0:13:16][%emt 0:00:53]}{[%eval 100,23]} 53. Kc4 {[%clk
0:12:45][%clko 0:37:55][%emt 0:00:32]}{[%eval 116,19]} 53... Rc8+ {[%clk
0:37:37][%clko 0:12:45][%emt 0:00:18]}{[%eval 100,23]} 54. Kd3 {[%clk
0:11:54][%clko 0:37:37][%emt 0:00:52]}{[%eval 116,18]} 54... Rd8+ {[%clk
0:36:31][%clko 0:11:54][%emt 0:01:06]}{[%eval 112,20]} 55. Kc2 {[%clk
0:11:06][%clko 0:36:31][%emt 0:00:48]}{[%eval 123,18]} 55... Rb8 {[%clk
0:35:56][%clko 0:11:06][%emt 0:00:35]}{[%eval 102,20]} 56. Rc4 {[%clk
0:10:23][%clko 0:35:56][%emt 0:00:43]}{[%eval 135,18]} 56... Rf8 {[%clk
0:34:01][%clko 0:10:23][%emt 0:01:54]}{[%eval 110,21]} 57. b4 {[%clk
0:10:03][%clko 0:34:01][%emt 0:00:20]}{[%eval 133,17]} 57... Ke6 {[%clk
0:33:44][%clko 0:10:03][%emt 0:00:18]}{[%eval 112,20]} 58. b5 {[%clk
0:09:31][%clko 0:33:44][%emt 0:00:32]}{[%eval 128,17]} 58... Kd5 {[%clk
0:33:08][%clko 0:09:31][%emt 0:00:35]}{[%eval 117,19]} 59. Kb3 {[%clk
0:09:15][%clko 0:33:08][%emt 0:00:16]}{[%eval 158,17]} 59... Rf1 {[%clk
0:32:07][%clko 0:09:15][%emt 0:01:01]}{[%eval 177,20]} 60. Rc3 {[%clk
0:08:54][%clko 0:32:07][%emt 0:00:21]}{[%eval 151,18]} 60... Rb1+ {[%clk
0:31:36][%clko 0:08:54][%emt 0:00:32]}{[%eval 177,21]} 61. Ka4 {[%clk
0:08:54][%clko 0:31:36]}{[%eval 151,7]} 61... g4 {[%clk 0:26:52][%clko
0:08:54][%emt 0:04:44]}{[%eval 226,21]} 62. h4 {[%clk 0:08:40][%clko
0:26:52][%emt 0:00:14]}{[%eval 181,18]} 62... Kd4 {[%clk 0:25:20][%clko
0:08:40][%emt 0:01:31]}{[%eval 206,21]} 63. Rb3 {[%clk 0:08:26][%clko
0:25:20][%emt 0:00:14]}{[%eval 225,19]} 63... Rd1 {[%clk 0:24:22][%clko
0:08:26][%emt 0:00:58]}{[%eval 246,21]} 64. b6 {[%clk 0:08:13][%clko
0:24:22][%emt 0:00:13]}{[%eval 341,19]} 64... Kc5 {[%clk 0:23:48][%clko
0:08:13][%emt 0:00:34]}{[%eval 145,23]} 65. Ka3 {[%clk 0:08:13][%clko 0:23:48]}
{[%eval 341,18]} 65... Ra1+ {[%clk 0:23:48][%clko 0:08:13]}{[%eval 145,22]} 66.
Kb2 {[%clk 0:08:13][%clko 0:23:48]}{[%eval 341,11]} 66... Ra8 {[%clk
0:23:48][%clko 0:08:13]}{[%eval 145,21]} 67. b7 {[%clk 0:08:01][%clko
0:23:48][%emt 0:00:12]}{[%eval 414,20]} 67... Rb8 {[%clk 0:23:48][%clko
0:08:01]}{[%eval 265,20]} 68. Kc3 {[%clk 0:08:01][%clko 0:23:48]}{[%eval
414,20]} 68... Kc6 {[%clk 0:23:34][%clko 0:08:01][%emt 0:00:14]}{[%eval 40,22]}
69. Kd3 {[%clk 0:07:45][%clko 0:23:34][%emt 0:00:16]}{[%eval 1,19]} 69... Rxb7
{[%clk 0:23:34][%clko 0:07:45]}{[%eval 40,20]} 70. Ra3 {[%clk 0:07:43][%clko
0:23:34]}{[%eval 1,18]} 70... Rb5 {[%clk 0:23:22][%clko 0:07:43][%emt 0:00:12]}
{[%eval 0,26]} 71. Kc4 {[%clk 0:07:36][%clko 0:23:22][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval
0,19]} 71... Rf5 {[%clk 0:23:05][%clko 0:07:36][%emt 0:00:17]}{[%eval 0,28]}
72. Kd4 {[%clk 0:07:27][%clko 0:23:05][%emt 0:00:09]}{[%eval 0,21]} 72... Kd6
{[%clk 0:22:52][%clko 0:07:27][%emt 0:00:14]}{[%eval 0,29]} 73. Rb3 {[%clk
0:07:18][%clko 0:22:52][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval 0,22]} 73... Ra5 {[%clk
0:22:32][%clko 0:07:18][%emt 0:00:20]}{[%eval 0,30]} 74. Ke4 {[%clk
0:07:08][%clko 0:22:32][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval 0,22]} 74... Ke6 {[%clk
0:22:17][%clko 0:07:08][%emt 0:00:14]}{[%eval 0,30]} 75. Rb6+ {[%clk
0:07:00][%clko 0:22:17][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval 0,22]} 75... Kf7 {[%clk
0:22:00][%clko 0:07:00][%emt 0:00:17]}{[%eval 0,30]} 76. Rh6 {[%clk
0:06:41][%clko 0:22:00][%emt 0:00:19]}{[%eval 0,22]} 76... Rb5 {[%clk
0:21:47][%clko 0:06:41][%emt 0:00:12]}{[%eval 0,29]} 77. Kf4 {[%clk
0:06:34][%clko 0:21:47][%emt 0:00:07]}{[%eval 0,21]} 77... Ra5 {[%clk
0:21:22][%clko 0:06:34][%emt 0:00:25]}{[%eval 0,32]} 78. Rc6 {[%clk
0:06:26][%clko 0:21:22][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval 0,21]} 78... Rb5 {[%clk
0:20:58][%clko 0:06:26][%emt 0:00:24]}{[%eval 0,31]} 79. Ke3 {[%clk
0:06:18][%clko 0:20:58][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval 0,21]} 79... Rb3+ {[%clk
0:20:46][%clko 0:06:18][%emt 0:00:12]}{[%eval 0,29]} 80. Kf4 {[%clk
0:06:10][%clko 0:20:46][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval 0,22]} 80... Kg7 {[%clk
0:20:30][%clko 0:06:10][%emt 0:00:16]}{[%eval 0,30]} 81. Rc8 {[%clk
0:06:02][%clko 0:20:30][%emt 0:00:09]}{[%eval 0,21]} 81... Kg6 {[%clk
0:20:07][%clko 0:06:02][%emt 0:00:23]}{[%eval 0,31]} 82. Rc6+ {[%clk
0:05:46][%clko 0:20:07][%emt 0:00:16]}{[%eval 0,23]} 82... Kg7 {[%clk
0:19:57][%clko 0:05:46][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval 0,37]} 83. Rc8 {[%clk
0:05:39][%clko 0:19:57][%emt 0:00:08]}{[%eval 0,23]} 83... Kg6 {[%clk
0:19:25][%clko 0:05:39][%emt 0:00:31]}{[%eval 0,32]} 84. Rc7 {[%clk
0:05:33][%clko 0:19:25][%emt 0:00:06]}{[%eval 0,21]} 84... Rf3+ {[%clk
0:19:15][%clko 0:05:33][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval 0,29]} 85. Ke4 {[%clk
0:05:27][%clko 0:19:15][%emt 0:00:05]}{[%eval 0,21]} 85... Rxg3 {[%clk
0:18:56][%clko 0:05:27][%emt 0:00:19]}{[%eval 0,30]} 86. Rc6+ {[%clk
0:05:27][%clko 0:18:56]}{[%eval 0,12]} 86... Kg7 {[%clk 0:18:37][%clko
0:05:27][%emt 0:00:19]}{[%eval 0,30]} 87. Rc7+ {[%clk 0:05:21][%clko
0:18:37][%emt 0:00:06]}{[%eval 0,19]} 87... Kh6 {[%clk 0:18:27][%clko
0:05:21][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval 0,30]} 88. Rc6+ {[%clk 0:05:21][%clko 0:18:27]}
{[%eval 0,15]} 88... Kg7 {[%clk 0:18:17][%clko 0:05:21][%emt 0:00:10]}{[%eval
0,33]} 89. Rc7+ {[%clk 0:05:08][%clko 0:18:17][%emt 0:00:13]}{[%eval 0,20]}
89... Kf6 {[%clk 0:18:05][%clko 0:05:08][%emt 0:00:12]}{[%eval 0,29]} 90. Rc6+
{[%clk 0:05:03][%clko 0:18:05][%emt 0:00:05]}{[%eval 0,21]} 90... Kg7 {[%clk
0:17:56][%clko 0:05:03][%emt 0:00:09]}{[%eval 0,28]} 1/2-1/2

[rdan1987]

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success?

NO. that is not posibble.

I don´t lost against rybka if I have a pawn and move on handicap..

Really?...are u a GM and we are not aware of it??
i am a 2000 fide rated player and I can assure that I lose many games at 5' against Rybka without a ROOK !!

[Karmazen & Oliver]

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success?

NO. that is not posibble.

I don´t lost against rybka if I have a pawn and move on handicap..

Really?...are u a GM and we are not aware of it??
i am a 2000 fide rated player and I can assure that I lose many games at 5' against Rybka without a ROOK !!

OFF course ¡ but the problem is the time... read correct the quote...

the strategy must be carefull when you have ventage material... change it

[Karmazen & Oliver]

Is it possible that some future Rybka will be able to give pawn and move at 40/2 to any human in the world with success?

NO. that is not posibble.

kaufman have his "evaluation" ponderation on +2 favor to rybka...

I don´t lost against rybka if I have a pawn and move on handicap..

that is not posible.

the problem in that match is that roman are un bad finnes ... I´m sure... a GM never CAN lost with that handicap. is a lot of ¡

I think you're wrong Oliver. It's not that far away from becoming reality.
Rybka 3 could beat many GMs already with those odds.

I am sure that ROMAN can do a lot of better... I think that roman have a bad day.... the programers know that that match would finished with a result complety diferent...

rybka have good lucky in that mathc... roman is very strong in that situation... but he need more finnes...

maybe would dificult win... but... lost ?¡ I think that a GM in good day... can not lost... and not win....

of course the first time control was very fast...

I will play with that handicap... I hope not lost .... ¡ XD.

alekkine said ( when he play versus capablanca ) I don´t know how I win, but I don´t know how I will lost....

alekkine win ¡ and more easy. that he was thinking...

bye.

[Karmazen & Oliver]

The result was a Draw. I think Zappa made a endgame mistake in a Rook and pawn endgame.

[Event "[#24] Zappa Mexico II x64 - Ry"]
[Site "Local computer"]
[Date "2008.08.09"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Zappa Mexico II x64"]
[Black "Rybka 3"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/1ppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[TimeControl "2 hour/game"]

{[%t Long] Draw by repetition. (1/2-1/2)}{[%t bLon] Processor: Intel(R)
Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz^13 ^10 White: Zappa Mexico II x64, hash
size

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq -

[Event "[#18] Rybka 3 - ChessTiger2007"]
[Site "Local computer"]
[Date "2008.08.08"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Rybka 3"]
[Black "ChessTiger2007UCI"]
[Result "1-0"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[TimeControl "5 min/game"]

{[%t Long] White checkmates.}{[%t bLon] Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU
Q6700 @ 2.66GHz^13 ^10 White: Rybka 3, hash size: 32M, opening book:
NarrowBook^13 ^10 Black: ChessTiger2007UCI, hash size: 32M, opening book:
NarrowBook^13 ^10 } 1. Nf3 {[%clk 0:04:54][%clko 0:05:00][%emt 0:00:05]}{[%eval
-228,14]}{[%t bLon] White out of book}{Black out of book} 1... d5 {[%clk
0:04:55][%clko 0:04:54][%emt 0:00:05]}{[%eval -386,17]} 2. g3 {[%clk

the problem is not the handicap or odds...

you must think that if the horizont problem ply on chesstiger is on ( for example 15 plys ) and in rybke is on 18 plys...

rybka only need long combinations that tigger "not see"... a GM have not the same problem... ( and not is necesaru a GM. a lot of humans ) have not that problem

the strategy whit a "knignt odd ¡¡¡" is very simple ¡¡¡ onle need change all ¡¡¡

chess tiger and all engines don´t do any move that his evaluation = small that previus move... a human can change a lot of piece if he have a small odds for the end game... ( of course if a human player can the posibility that play a endd game with 2 paws odds DO that move. but a lot of engine not do a move if previos have a knignt and after combinations have "ONLY" two pawns... ( but we humans see that in the end game... that is a lot of ... )

the horizont problem... for the old engine... if that engine don´t see the victory force... don´t change a lof of piece...