Where is the evidence to be found?

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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
bob wrote:
geots wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
You can say "I am done" all you want. But when you extract your head so that you are seeing something besides large intestines, I am still going to be around. Again "I am done when I _say_ I am done." You have no input in that decision whatsoever. And I have no problems overlooking most of your contentless posts as well, so that is also not going to eventually drive me out of the discussion.

Nice try, but no success...

As far as this Rybka discussion goes, i dont have to do anything but sit back- you have plenty of rope to hang yourself.
The problem you have, unfortunately, is that I am _far_ from suicidal. So it isn't going to happen. But since you refuse to open your eyes and look where things are going, you might well walk in front of a bus or something. But there is time to look before it is too late. Or just keep those eyes squeezed shut, stumble around, and hope you don't get run over. Odds are not good however.
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
bob wrote:
geots wrote:
bob wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
henkf wrote:Why don't you give them some time to produce the results of their research, instead of flaming the results before they are produced?
Well, considering they have started threads, and produced hundreds of posts on the matter, it seems strange to me to be asked to now wait for the results to be produced. What were the claims based on? The number of letters in the name?

Furthermore, the evidence presented will have to show that it is what helps Fruit play as well as it does, and this is also what helps Rybka play as well as it does. Otherwise, the evidence really wouldn't be any better than identical UCI protocols.

Albert
What _is_ the intent here. To deflect attention elsewhere once more? The evidence does _not_ have to show that is what helps fruit do anything. It only has to show that fruit was copied. Where are you trying to go with this? The goal of the two original investigators here was to simply answer the question "was rybka derived from fruit?" why is it necessary to have a continually shifting target and why do others get to dictate what Zach and Christophe were trying to answer?

Quite simply, copying _any part_ of a GPL program is not permissable. _any part_. Not just "key parts".

Whew. I see credibility sprouting wings and flying away. I would be real careful here.
I was thinking more along the lines that I had no more to add than the above drivel, I might consider shutting up for a bit myself...
Now, now Bob- dont lose your cool as well.
Haven't lost my cool, period, thank you... nor anything else for that matter.

Dream whatever you want of course.

I'm sticking to reality.
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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bob wrote:
geots wrote:
bob wrote:
geots wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
You can say "I am done" all you want. But when you extract your head so that you are seeing something besides large intestines, I am still going to be around. Again "I am done when I _say_ I am done." You have no input in that decision whatsoever. And I have no problems overlooking most of your contentless posts as well, so that is also not going to eventually drive me out of the discussion.

Nice try, but no success...

As far as this Rybka discussion goes, i dont have to do anything but sit back- you have plenty of rope to hang yourself.
The problem you have, unfortunately, is that I am _far_ from suicidal. So it isn't going to happen. But since you refuse to open your eyes and look where things are going, you might well walk in front of a bus or something. But there is time to look before it is too late. Or just keep those eyes squeezed shut, stumble around, and hope you don't get run over. Odds are not good however.

Why is he allowed to say this horrid stuff to you, Zack and Christophe??

I complain, nothing is done?
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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bob wrote:
geots wrote:
bob wrote:
geots wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
You can say "I am done" all you want. But when you extract your head so that you are seeing something besides large intestines, I am still going to be around. Again "I am done when I _say_ I am done." You have no input in that decision whatsoever. And I have no problems overlooking most of your contentless posts as well, so that is also not going to eventually drive me out of the discussion.

Nice try, but no success...

As far as this Rybka discussion goes, i dont have to do anything but sit back- you have plenty of rope to hang yourself.
The problem you have, unfortunately, is that I am _far_ from suicidal. So it isn't going to happen. But since you refuse to open your eyes and look where things are going, you might well walk in front of a bus or something. But there is time to look before it is too late. Or just keep those eyes squeezed shut, stumble around, and hope you don't get run over. Odds are not good however.

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