Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
DS 3 thinking now Dr. D
Rybka 3 found h4 in how many minutes/hours?

Pondering Regards
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Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
DS 3 thinking now Dr. D
Rybka 3 found h4 in how many minutes/hours?

Pondering Regards
Steve
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
DS 3 thinking now Dr. D
Rybka 3 found h4 in how many minutes/hours?

Pondering Regards
Steve
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
ok thanks
after 11'30 '' DS3 will play Rc1
Eval -.55 ..ply count 16 full width /42 Selective
will let it run for the full 30 minutes

Time Flys Regards
Steve
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
DS 3 thinking now Dr. D
Rybka 3 found h4 in how many minutes/hours?

Pondering Regards
Steve
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
ok thanks
after 11'30 '' DS3 will play Rc1
Eval -.55 ..ply count 16 full width /42 Selective
will let it run for the full 30 minutes

Time Flys Regards
Steve
well Rc1 it is for Rev-DS3.0 after 32 minutes
Eval -.58
Ply Count ...17/51

Rybka 2.2.. 0-2
DS 3.0 ..1-1 Regards
Steve
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Steve B wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Steve B wrote:Revelation with Rybka 2.2N8 loaded will play Rc1 after 30 minutes scoring the position -.40

and now .. we load the Super Grand Master himself...
Deep Sjeng 3.0 Regards
Steve
I told you Steve,most of the engines will pick the Rc1 move,it will be interesting to see what Deep Sjeng 3 thinks....
BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
DS 3 thinking now Dr. D
Rybka 3 found h4 in how many minutes/hours?

Pondering Regards
Steve
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
ok thanks
after 11'30 '' DS3 will play Rc1
Eval -.55 ..ply count 16 full width /42 Selective
will let it run for the full 30 minutes

Time Flys Regards
Steve
well Rc1 it is for Rev-DS3.0 after 32 minutes
Eval -.58
Ply Count ...17/51

Rybka 2.2.. 0-2
DS 3.0 ..1-1 Regards
Steve
Thanks Steve for the results....
We can create some interesting statistics going through all the positions for the different engines,which one will find most of Petrosian's remarkable moves....
Will live and see regards,
Dr.D
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Re: Tigran Petrosian_selected positions_01

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Dr.Wael Deeb

BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
I find that statement remarkable, as on my Quad, Rybka 3 can't find H4, at least in the hour I let it run. It stays with RC1 throughout. Were you using Human or Dynamic?
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TSP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb

BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
I find that statement remarkable, as on my Quad, Rybka 3 can't find H4, at least in the hour I let it run. It stays with RC1 throughout. Were you using Human or Dynamic?
All the engines I had run in 2 var mode had h4 at least in the second choice. Only Rybka 2.3.2a switched between Rc1 and h4 but then came back to Rc1. Fritz 5.32 also prefers rc1 and folks, unbelievable, it had the highes kN number of all. It surpassed M after a short while.

Although the whole experiment is interesting, for me it depends of the iron rule in chess, human player, that often you just cant simply say that the move is crucial.

Here it was move 41 which was the move entry in letter for the later second part. We simply dont know what Petrosjan had in mind. Perhaps he wanted to irritate Spassky who certainly had his analyses team going. So h4 is a surprise move instead of the natural Rc1.

IMO Black had a small advantage in this position and Petrosjan was famous for his solid defense and in special his very unpleasent method of making the task for the opponent as difficult as possible.
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TSP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb

BTW,Rybka 3 finds the correct move....
h4!! regards,
Dr.Wael Deeb
Running at my already humble Core 2 Duo 2.66MHz with 256 Mb Ram,it finds the move rather quickly,under two minutes....It sticks to Rc1 in the begining though....
I find that statement remarkable, as on my Quad, Rybka 3 can't find H4, at least in the hour I let it run. It stays with RC1 throughout. Were you using Human or Dynamic?
Hi Terry,
I used the standard Rybka 3 version,but....for analysing I set the contempt factor to 0.00 :!:
By default it's 15.....
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