Rolf wrote:bob wrote:I looked at that when it was first posted, a long while back. I have no idea what Rolf is talking about when he talks about Murray's answer to a question. Murray has always taken his time to formulate an answer before he starts to speak, something perhaps Rolf might try to emulate more. But there was nothing "hidden" in his comments that lends any credibility to the "Kasparov was cheated" chant. In fact, that specific question was asked ("was it a fair match?") and I thought Levy's answer was dead on. Deep Blue 2 completely surprised Kasparov and demoralized him in game two. But the most damaging part was done by Kasparov himself, when he resigned a drawn position. And then he was told by his advisors of all the analysis many of us did overnight to prove it was a draw. And that was the final nail in his coffin. He blew it. He knew he blew it. And it caused him to implode. That is hardly IBM's fault...
Can you hear me, Bob?
I am talking about a video from a conference in 2005 where Murray participated. Know what I mean? Video! Length something more than two hours. You go right into the middle of the video. When the audience had its questions. Then the exchange between the elderly looking man and Campbell. Telling! You can also read what I wrote aboutg it at the top of this thread. Everything what I wrote here in the thread is from the video. Bob, you must just take a look for yourself. Perhaps you had been in the audience yourself...
I looked at it when it first came out, as I said. I was asked to review it. I looked at at again yesterday to see if I had overlooked something. I had not. So again, I do not have any idea what you are talking about. Murray acts just like he _always_ has. He looked just like he did the last time I saw him, except about 10 years older. The "exchange" was simply a question from the guy and an answer from murray. Your imagination is supplying the rest.
Kasparov did two things during the match. The last was to make unfounded claims of cheating. No evidence has _ever_ been produced to suggest that DB didn't play axb5 (which was his main claim of intervention). In fact, at the time, more than one program agreed with the move depending on the search time allowed. That is old news, it was bogus, and was just an attempt to make an excuse. The first thing he did was to use faulty preparation, and then fall apart when it became obvious his preparation had not given him any usable information with respect to deep blue.
Please also read carefully what Edwards wrote here couple of days ago. He showed all the justified charges that could be made and then he *broke together* with the unfogettable tune, 'but Kasparov should stop making unbased charges'.
this is all old... and well-known... The human intervention idea is simply a complete fabrication that continues to be put forward by people such as yourself, with absolutely _zero_ to support the claim. You do so because you know it can never be proven, so it gives you something to waste your time on...
