sje wrote:A two part challenge for your imagination:
1) Pretend for a moment that you had the ability to travel backward in time. Consider the scenario where you journey back over several decades to one of the great tournaments of the early 1900s (like New York 1924 or St. Petersburg 1905) and you've taken with you a piece sensory set and board that also has a built in engine of GM strength. What do you think might be the reactions of the GMs of those days?
2) Pretend for a moment that you are a GM attending or even participating in the 2008 world championship. Consider the scenario where some oddly dressed person pops into the room and turns out to be a visitor from a century from now. What kind of chess equipment could he be carrying to make you react in the same way as in your answer to the first part of this challenge?
Sorry for the off topic but I will never get married
Who broke your heart Wael? Anything that is broken can be fixed, I recommend duct tape.
sje wrote:A two part challenge for your imagination:
1) Pretend for a moment that you had the ability to travel backward in time. Consider the scenario where you journey back over several decades to one of the great tournaments of the early 1900s (like New York 1924 or St. Petersburg 1905) and you've taken with you a piece sensory set and board that also has a built in engine of GM strength. What do you think might be the reactions of the GMs of those days?
First they would stab me, then they would hang me, and then they would kill me.
2) Pretend for a moment that you are a GM attending or even participating in the 2008 world championship. Consider the scenario where some oddly dressed person pops into the room and turns out to be a visitor from a century from now. What kind of chess equipment could he be carrying to make you react in the same way as in your answer to the first part of this challenge?
I guess that they would have something the size of a freckle that searches 30 plies in one second from the root. It communicates directly to their brain (no need for archaic things like 'keyboards' or 'screens').
sje wrote:A two part challenge for your imagination:
1) Pretend for a moment that you had the ability to travel backward in time. Consider the scenario where you journey back over several decades to one of the great tournaments of the early 1900s (like New York 1924 or St. Petersburg 1905) and you've taken with you a piece sensory set and board that also has a built in engine of GM strength. What do you think might be the reactions of the GMs of those days?
If the GMs believe in time travel! (less probable), but they would conclude that the equipment is from future. Or, if they believe in Aliens / Wizards & Witches / Supernatural, then they would tend to think of me and the chess playing equipment in those terms. Nonetheless, all would be greatly amazed.
sje wrote:2) Pretend for a moment that you are a GM attending or even participating in the 2008 world championship. Consider the scenario where some oddly dressed person pops into the room and turns out to be a visitor from a century from now. What kind of chess equipment could he be carrying to make you react in the same way as in your answer to the first part of this challenge?
Some kind of chess board and pieces that materialize out of thin air and start showing mate in 234 moves on the very first move
That would be amazing and it would imply that Chess is finally fully SOLVED!
Also of interest and more probable would be Wetware - Hardware interfaced to (human) brain directly having the capability of running any computer program using the processing power/ability of the brain. Load 10 to 20 of the best chess engines of that time and play the best move.
james uselton wrote:I know New York 1924 was a great tournament but what happened in St Petersburg 1905? Nunn used a Fritz5 in 1999 to rate the Carlsbad tournament 1911 as a 2100 elo event.
taking a contemporary program to NY 1924 would be a "Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
I think that getting to the level of 2100 in 1911 was clearly harder relative to today.
Today everyone can learn and get experience from playing with computers.
At the time of 1911 people had not that option.
I believe that many 2500 players could not get to the level of 2100 in case that they lived in 1911.
The short story "The Three Sailors' Gambit" was written long before there were any dedicated chess computers. A central item in the story is a chess computer in the form of a crystal ball about the size of a hen's egg. The unit has no controls; instead it contains a three dimensional image of a chessboard and position with the calculated move being shown played repeatedly. (It may be that the image appears only in the mind of the operator.) The sphere somehow senses the position and the moves made on the nearby physical chessboard. It is not clear if the crystal is inhabited by a spirit or is merely a very cleverly constructed artifact.
The little sphere is not indestructible. The story ends shortly after the crystal, playing with only a row of pawns, beats the British champion and then explodes due to the strain.
Today, a system consisting of a piece sensory board with a Bluetooth link to a fast handheld computer running a strong chess program could duplicate the function although not the form of the sailors' little assistant. At a cost of about a thousand dollars, it would still be cheaper than selling one's soul.
sje wrote:A two part challenge for your imagination:
1) Pretend for a moment that you had the ability to travel backward in time. Consider the scenario where you journey back over several decades to one of the great tournaments of the early 1900s (like New York 1924 or St. Petersburg 1905) and you've taken with you a piece sensory set and board that also has a built in engine of GM strength. What do you think might be the reactions of the GMs of those days?
2) Pretend for a moment that you are a GM attending or even participating in the 2008 world championship. Consider the scenario where some oddly dressed person pops into the room and turns out to be a visitor from a century from now. What kind of chess equipment could he be carrying to make you react in the same way as in your answer to the first part of this challenge?
Sorry for the off topic but I will never get married
Who broke your heart Wael? Anything that is broken can be fixed, I recommend duct tape.
Thanks tony,you're a true friend
No one has broken my heart,it's just that the conception called marrige is busted....
Stay single as long as you can regards,
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
"Today everyone can learn and get experience from playing with computers."
"At the time of 1911 people had not that option."
One could say that about every decade---the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's,70's---Of course, in the 70's we had things like Boris, but surely, no one could claim that helped anyone play better chess.
I wonder how Nunn would rate the 1927 World championship or the 72' World Chess Championship? What about the 84' Championship---I think one could classify that as occuring before the age of computer help. Was it played at the 2100 level or at a level very comparable to the present?
