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swami
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by swami » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:33 pm
Again!!
Kramnik made an error. Nc4 bad move.
Engine thinks White is at
+ 1.88!!
Anand,V - Kramnik,V, WCC 2008 Bonn 2008
[d] 2r3k1/6pp/8/3n1P2/p1n3R1/P3P2P/1P1B1N2/4K3 w - - 0 1
Analysis by bright-0.3a:
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36.Nd1 Kf7 37.Rd4 Ndb6 38.Bc3 g6 39.fxg6+ hxg6 40.Rf4+ Ke7 41.e4 Nd7 42.Ke2 Ke6 43.Rf1 Nde5 44.Ne3 Nxe3 45.Kxe3
+- (1.82) Depth: 16/32 00:00:05 317mN
36.Nd1 Ne7 37.Rf4 Kf7 38.h4 h5 39.e4 Re8 40.Be3 Nd5 41.exd5 Nxe3 42.Nxe3 Rxe3+ 43.Kd2 Re5 44.d6 Rd5+ 45.Ke3 Rxd6 46.Rxa4
+- (1.83) Depth: 17/38 00:00:37 317mN
36.Nd1 Ne7 37.Rf4 Kf7 38.h4 h5 39.Ke2 Nxd2 40.Kxd2 Rd8+ 41.Ke2 Kf6 42.Nf2 Rc8 43.Nd3 Rc2+ 44.Kf3 Nc6 45.Kg3 Ne5 46.Nb4
+- (1.88) Depth: 18/39 00:00:55 331mN
Last edited by swami on Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Anil
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by Anil » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:33 pm
Another mistake by Kramnik -
Nc4?
(36. Nd1 Ne7 37. f6 Ng6 38. Bc3 gxf6 39. Bxf6 Kf7 40. Bc3 Ke6 41. Rg5 Re8 42. Rb5 Kd6 43. Bb4+ Kd7 Rybka3_8cpu (0:00.39)+2.00|d19)
Will Anand play Nd1! ?
Last edited by Anil on Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
AdminX
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by AdminX » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:34 pm
Anand played e4
[d]2r3k1/6pp/8/3n1P2/p1n1P1R1/P6P/1P1B1N2/4K3 b - - 0 36
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Anil
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by Anil » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:36 pm
Both players not playing the best moves under time pressure... still Anand seems to be ahead.
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by AdminX » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:37 pm
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.21"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "72"]
[EventDate "2008.10.21"]
[EventRounds "6"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 6. Nf3 Qf5 7. Qb3 Nc6 8.
Bd2 O-O 9. h3 b6 10. g4 Qa5 11. Rc1 Bb7 12. a3 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 Qd5 14. Qxd5 Nxd5
15. Bd2 Nf6 16. Rg1 Rac8 17. Bg2 Ne7 18. Bb4 c5 19. dxc5 Rfd8 20. Ne5 Bxg2 21.
Rxg2 bxc5 22. Rxc5 Ne4 23. Rxc8 Rxc8 24. Nd3 Nd5 25. Bd2 Rc2 26. Bc1 f5 27. Kd1
Rc8 28. f3 Nd6 29. Ke1 a5 30. e3 e5 31. gxf5 e4 32. fxe4 Nxe4 33. Bd2 a4 34.
Nf2 Nd6 35. Rg4 Nc4 36. e4 Nf6 *
[d]2r3k1/6pp/5n2/5P2/p1n1P1R1/P6P/1P1B1N2/4K3 w - - 0 37
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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swami
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by swami » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:39 pm
Kramnik made an HUGE Blunder!
Engine thinks white is now at
+2.27
Anand,V - Kramnik,V, WCC 2008 Bonn 2008
[d] 2r3k1/6pp/5n2/5P2/p3P3/P5RP/1n1B1N2/4K3 w - - 0 1
Analysis by bright-0.3a:
Code: Select all
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bb4 Nd5 41.Ne4 g6 42.Bc5 Kg7 43.Ke2
+- (1.83) Depth: 11/25 00:00:00 1694kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bb4 g6 41.Ke2 Nd5 42.Bc5 Rc8 43.Ne4 Kg7 44.Kd3
+- (1.90) Depth: 12/27 00:00:00 1694kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bb4 g6 41.Ke2 Nd5 42.Bc5 Rb8 43.Ne4 Rb3 44.h4 Nf4+ 45.Kf2
+- (1.75) Depth: 13/27 00:00:00 1694kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nh5 41.Rg5 g6 42.Ne4 Kf8 43.Bb4+ Kg7 44.fxg6 hxg6 45.Bc3+ Kh7
+- (1.93) Depth: 14/30 00:00:01 5697kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nd6 41.Ng4 Nh5 42.Nh6+ Kf8 43.Rd3 Ke7 44.Be5 gxh6 45.Bxd6+ Kf6 46.Rd5
+- (2.07) Depth: 15/36 00:00:02 13309kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nd6 41.Ng4 Nh5 42.Nh6+ Kf8 43.Rd3 Ke7 44.Be5 gxh6 45.Bxd6+ Kf6 46.Rd5 Rg8 47.Kf2
+- (2.21) Depth: 16/38 00:00:05 30133kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nd6 41.Ng4 Nh5 42.Nh6+ Kf8 43.Rd3 Ke7 44.Be5 gxh6 45.Bxd6+ Kf6 46.Rd5 Rg8 47.Kf2
+- (2.21) Depth: 17/38 00:00:08 49746kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nd6 41.Ng4 Nxg4 42.hxg4 Ne4 43.Rd3 Nxc3 44.Rxc3 g6 45.Rc4 gxf5 46.gxf5 Kg7 47.Rxa4 Kf6 48.Rf4
+- (2.22) Depth: 18/40 00:00:16 96615kN
38.e5 Re8 39.e6 Nc4 40.Bc3 Nd6 41.Ng4 Nxg4 42.hxg4 Ne4 43.Rd3 Nxc3 44.Rxc3 g6 45.Rc4 gxf5 46.gxf5 Kg7 47.Rxa4 Kf6 48.Rf4 h5 49.a4
+- (2.27) Depth: 19/42 00:00:33 200mN
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by AdminX » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:39 pm
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.21"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "74"]
[EventDate "2008.10.21"]
[EventRounds "6"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 6. Nf3 Qf5 7. Qb3 Nc6 8.
Bd2 O-O 9. h3 b6 10. g4 Qa5 11. Rc1 Bb7 12. a3 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 Qd5 14. Qxd5 Nxd5
15. Bd2 Nf6 16. Rg1 Rac8 17. Bg2 Ne7 18. Bb4 c5 19. dxc5 Rfd8 20. Ne5 Bxg2 21.
Rxg2 bxc5 22. Rxc5 Ne4 23. Rxc8 Rxc8 24. Nd3 Nd5 25. Bd2 Rc2 26. Bc1 f5 27. Kd1
Rc8 28. f3 Nd6 29. Ke1 a5 30. e3 e5 31. gxf5 e4 32. fxe4 Nxe4 33. Bd2 a4 34.
Nf2 Nd6 35. Rg4 Nc4 36. e4 Nf6 37. Rg3 Nxb2 *
[d]2r3k1/6pp/5n2/5P2/p3P3/P5RP/1n1B1N2/4K3 w - - 0 38
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Anil
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by Anil » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:41 pm
I am sure both players are waiting to complete their 40 moves.
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by AdminX » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:44 pm
[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.21"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2783"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventDate "2008.10.21"]
[EventRounds "6"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d5 5. cxd5 Qxd5 6. Nf3 Qf5 7. Qb3 Nc6 8.
Bd2 O-O 9. h3 b6 10. g4 Qa5 11. Rc1 Bb7 12. a3 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 Qd5 14. Qxd5 Nxd5
15. Bd2 Nf6 16. Rg1 Rac8 17. Bg2 Ne7 18. Bb4 c5 19. dxc5 Rfd8 20. Ne5 Bxg2 21.
Rxg2 bxc5 22. Rxc5 Ne4 23. Rxc8 Rxc8 24. Nd3 Nd5 25. Bd2 Rc2 26. Bc1 f5 27. Kd1
Rc8 28. f3 Nd6 29. Ke1 a5 30. e3 e5 31. gxf5 e4 32. fxe4 Nxe4 33. Bd2 a4 34.
Nf2 Nd6 35. Rg4 Nc4 36. e4 Nf6 37. Rg3 Nxb2 38. e5 *
[d]2r3k1/6pp/5n2/4PP2/p7/P5RP/1n1B1N2/4K3 b - - 0 38
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Anil
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by Anil » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:44 pm
Ted, did Anand play e5?