World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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Terry McCracken wrote:Anand is playing World Class Chess. Kramnik played well today but so did White. The logical result is a draw.

Anand won't take needless risk when ahead. If Kramnik makes a mistake Anand will go after it. Kramnik is now waiting for Anand to err, he pressed with 21..Rc4 but it led nowhere, only a quick draw and Kramnik knew this.

Kramnik was frustrated that he couldn't get a chance to show his Capablanca like Endgame skills and chose the shortest route to draw.

Terry
As long as he keeps up his proffessional integrity, (which he could get away without doing if he wants).
Is "taking needleess risk" actually a lower level of chess?
I've never resolved this question in my mind. Perhaps if both players play extremely boringly, but without any mistakes it is still considered perfect chess? It's not clear to me where to draw the line.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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S.Taylor wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:Anand is playing World Class Chess. Kramnik played well today but so did White. The logical result is a draw.

Anand won't take needless risk when ahead. If Kramnik makes a mistake Anand will go after it. Kramnik is now waiting for Anand to err, he pressed with 21..Rc4 but it led nowhere, only a quick draw and Kramnik knew this.

Kramnik was frustrated that he couldn't get a chance to show his Capablanca like Endgame skills and chose the shortest route to draw.

Terry
As long as he keeps up his proffessional integrity, (which he could get away without doing if he wants).
Is "taking needleess risk" actually a lower level of chess?
I've never resolved this question in my mind. Perhaps if both players play extremely boringly, but without any mistakes it is still considered perfect chess? It's not clear to me where to draw the line.
Needless risk is inferior chess.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.
Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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gerold wrote:
rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.


Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
Hey Gerold,

Did you see any of the "SAW" movies? If you did then you might remember from the 1st movie this saying, "Those are the rules, you have to play by the rules". :lol:
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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AdminX wrote:
gerold wrote:
rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.


Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
Hey Gerold,

Did you see any of the "SAW" movies? If you did then you might remember from the 1st movie this saying, "Those are the rules, you have to play by the rules". :lol:
I didn't see any of those movies. Maybe i should have. :oops:
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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AdminX wrote:
gerold wrote:
rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.


Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
Hey Gerold,

Did you see any of the "SAW" movies? If you did then you might remember from the 1st movie this saying, "Those are the rules, you have to play by the rules". :lol:
If you liked Saw you will like this video using the Charlie Clouser theme.


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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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Tony Thomas wrote:
AdminX wrote:
gerold wrote:
rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.


Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
Hey Gerold,

Did you see any of the "SAW" movies? If you did then you might remember from the 1st movie this saying, "Those are the rules, you have to play by the rules". :lol:
If you liked Saw you will like this video using the Charlie Clouser theme.


Hell yeah,

Great use of that soundtrack!
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 7)

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Tony Thomas wrote:
AdminX wrote:
gerold wrote:
rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:I assume that Anand understands his responsibility in not sparing any efforts to push for a win if it seemed at all possible, as he is meant to be making games which are role models of top class chess. He should only be thinking of that, and not whether or not he wants to be nice to Kramnik, or conserve his energy.
OK, he doesn't need to go overboard, but must still be ready to pounce with full force at any slight crack in his opponents position. If not, it's not genuine WC worthy chess.
(And it's not boxing either, where he would be aiming to physically injure the other contestant :twisted: )

What? Don't be ridiculous. He'll be content to just draw out from here.


Yep and that is boring chess and thats why draws should not be
counted in the score. Looks like they both will stonewall now.
Hey Gerold,

Did you see any of the "SAW" movies? If you did then you might remember from the 1st movie this saying, "Those are the rules, you have to play by the rules". :lol:
If you liked Saw you will like this video using the Charlie Clouser theme.


Seems all knew this was be a draw after the opening and a few
moves. How did yoiu see its Tony.