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Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
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Ovyron
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Yeah, funnily enough, besides preferring the xboard protocol, I also prefer albums on vinyl. 
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krazyken
Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
I liked the queen side breakthrough in this game:
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "Mulert.local"]
[Date "2008.11.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Alf v1.09"]
[Black "Thinker53B"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. g3 e6 3. c4 d5 4. Bg2 Bb4+ 5. Nc3 {+0.18/13 3:14} O-O 6. Nf3
dxc4 7. O-O Nbd7 8. Qc2 {-0.12/13 3:52} c6 9. Rd1 {-0.08/11 3:47} Qb6 10.
Bg5 {+0.05/13 3:52} Qa6 11. a3 {+0.00/13 3:52} Ba5 12. Bf4 {-0.05/12 3:45}
b5 13. Bd6 {-0.06/13 3:42} Rd8 14. e4 {-0.17/13 3:42} h6 15.
e5 {-0.20/14 3:39} Nd5 16. Ne4 {-0.19/13 3:24} Qb7 17. Nc5 {-0.03/12 4:10}
Nxc5 18. dxc5 {-0.02/14 3:09} Bd7 19. g4 {+0.02/13 3:17} g6 20.
g5 {+0.14/13 3:17} h5 21. a4 {+0.13/12 3:17} a6 22. Nh4 {+0.02/12 3:17} Be8
23. Qe4 {+0.03/13 3:17} c3 24. b3 {-0.20/13 3:17} bxa4 25.
bxa4 {-0.20/13 3:17} Qc8 26. Rd4 {+0.09/12 4:06} Rd7 27.
Nf3 {-0.09/13 3:14} Rb7 28. Ne1 {-0.05/13 3:14} Rb2 29. Nc2 {-0.20/13 3:14}
Qb7 30. Bf3 {-0.20/12 3:14} Bd8 31. h4 {-0.16/13 3:14} Qb3 32.
Bd1 {-0.09/14 3:14} Ra2 33. Ne1 {-0.18/14 2:54} Qb2 34.
Rxa2 {-0.20/16 2:37} Qxa2 35. Bc2 {-0.20/15 2:21} Ra7 36.
Qf3 {-0.20/14 2:07} Kg7 37. Qe2 {-0.27/12 1:54} a5 38. Nd3 {-0.40/13 1:43}
Rb7 39. Nc1 {-0.75/13 1:32} Qa1 40. Rd1 {-1.20/14 1:23} Nf4 41.
Qf3 {-1.02/16 4:18} Qb2 42. Be4 {-1.42/14 4:03} c2 43. Re1 {-1.45/16 3:55}
Nd5 44. Rf1 {-1.64/14 5:44} Rb4 45. Nd3 {-2.95/14 3:18} Qb1 46.
Nc1 {-2.50/14 3:19} Rd4 47. Qe2 {-3.85/14 3:19} Qb4 48. Bg2 {-4.84/13 3:18}
Qxa4 49. Nd3 {-5.12/14 3:17} Nc3 50. Qf3 {-5.78/14 3:11} Qc4 51.
Nc1 {-6.14/16 3:10} a4 52. Bh3 {-5.66/14 3:10} Kh7 53. Re1 {-8.69/14 3:57}
Rd1 54. Rf1 {-13.99/16 3:03} Rxc1 55. Rxc1 {-14.10/15 3:03} Ne2+ 56.
Kh2 {-18.77/14 3:08} Nxc1
{White resigns} 0-1
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "Mulert.local"]
[Date "2008.11.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Alf v1.09"]
[Black "Thinker53B"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. g3 e6 3. c4 d5 4. Bg2 Bb4+ 5. Nc3 {+0.18/13 3:14} O-O 6. Nf3
dxc4 7. O-O Nbd7 8. Qc2 {-0.12/13 3:52} c6 9. Rd1 {-0.08/11 3:47} Qb6 10.
Bg5 {+0.05/13 3:52} Qa6 11. a3 {+0.00/13 3:52} Ba5 12. Bf4 {-0.05/12 3:45}
b5 13. Bd6 {-0.06/13 3:42} Rd8 14. e4 {-0.17/13 3:42} h6 15.
e5 {-0.20/14 3:39} Nd5 16. Ne4 {-0.19/13 3:24} Qb7 17. Nc5 {-0.03/12 4:10}
Nxc5 18. dxc5 {-0.02/14 3:09} Bd7 19. g4 {+0.02/13 3:17} g6 20.
g5 {+0.14/13 3:17} h5 21. a4 {+0.13/12 3:17} a6 22. Nh4 {+0.02/12 3:17} Be8
23. Qe4 {+0.03/13 3:17} c3 24. b3 {-0.20/13 3:17} bxa4 25.
bxa4 {-0.20/13 3:17} Qc8 26. Rd4 {+0.09/12 4:06} Rd7 27.
Nf3 {-0.09/13 3:14} Rb7 28. Ne1 {-0.05/13 3:14} Rb2 29. Nc2 {-0.20/13 3:14}
Qb7 30. Bf3 {-0.20/12 3:14} Bd8 31. h4 {-0.16/13 3:14} Qb3 32.
Bd1 {-0.09/14 3:14} Ra2 33. Ne1 {-0.18/14 2:54} Qb2 34.
Rxa2 {-0.20/16 2:37} Qxa2 35. Bc2 {-0.20/15 2:21} Ra7 36.
Qf3 {-0.20/14 2:07} Kg7 37. Qe2 {-0.27/12 1:54} a5 38. Nd3 {-0.40/13 1:43}
Rb7 39. Nc1 {-0.75/13 1:32} Qa1 40. Rd1 {-1.20/14 1:23} Nf4 41.
Qf3 {-1.02/16 4:18} Qb2 42. Be4 {-1.42/14 4:03} c2 43. Re1 {-1.45/16 3:55}
Nd5 44. Rf1 {-1.64/14 5:44} Rb4 45. Nd3 {-2.95/14 3:18} Qb1 46.
Nc1 {-2.50/14 3:19} Rd4 47. Qe2 {-3.85/14 3:19} Qb4 48. Bg2 {-4.84/13 3:18}
Qxa4 49. Nd3 {-5.12/14 3:17} Nc3 50. Qf3 {-5.78/14 3:11} Qc4 51.
Nc1 {-6.14/16 3:10} a4 52. Bh3 {-5.66/14 3:10} Kh7 53. Re1 {-8.69/14 3:57}
Rd1 54. Rf1 {-13.99/16 3:03} Rxc1 55. Rxc1 {-14.10/15 3:03} Ne2+ 56.
Kh2 {-18.77/14 3:08} Nxc1
{White resigns} 0-1
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Samsunait
Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
Which version among Passive Active and Inert is the best/with the nicest playstyle?
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F. Bluemers
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Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
My CD Player :

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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
Cool Fonzy....is it a Blu Ray compitable

_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
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F. Bluemers
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red rays tooDr.Wael Deeb wrote:Cool Fonzy....is it a Blu Ray compitable![]()
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I have not the patience to convert the records to cd.
besides ,cd misses the all important ritual
try to get this on cd doc:

yummy!
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Ovyron
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Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
Yes, but, Active is aimed against humans, and Inert is Aimed against engines, what is Passive aimed for?SzG wrote:Each has its target opponent against which it is supposed to obtain best result.
About style, I feel like Thinker Inert is a different engine each game!
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Ovyron
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Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
I read that the readme is old and it's meant to be updated to say that Inert must be used against engines.SzG wrote:The readme says Passive is intended to play against engines, while Inert is an experimental version - against whom?
Now the question is, Passive is now meant to play against whom?
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Re: Thinker 5.3B Inert = a new era in computer chess !
http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewtopic.php?t=49609SzG wrote:The readme says Passive is intended to play against engines, while Inert is an experimental version - against whom?Ovyron wrote:Yes, but, Active is aimed against humans, and Inert is Aimed against engines, what is Passive aimed for?SzG wrote:Each has its target opponent against which it is supposed to obtain best result.
About style, I feel like Thinker Inert is a different engine each game!
"Kerwin" posted:
I have joined Lance in the development of the engine.
5.3B is out.
There is a new variety (Inert Thinker) which is another variation of the evaluation code. Compared to Passive Thinker, this one seems to perform better against other engines.
Passive Thinker should improve slightly from the fix in the check move generation. The improvement may not be that noticeable.
Active Thinker should have a noticeable improvement. The piece-square evaluation has been corrected.
Lastly, the SMP versions are significantly better. There was a nasty bug in the code that propagates the results from the helper board to the parent board. This has bee corrected.
Enjoy...
gbanksnz at gmail.com