james uselton wrote:Kinda reminds me of Capablanca v Alekhine. Capablanca kept asking for a rematch but did he really want one? There is some doubt about his sincerity. The same can be said for Kasparov---I think he pretty much knew there would be no rematch and he could probably say whatever he wanted to and into which many people would buy.
He was psyched-out and scared in that rematch with Deep Blue. He resigned the second game (which was in actuality drawn) and suffered the shortest loss of his career in game 6 (19 moves).
In this confrontation, the machine was superior.
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In 1997 Kasparov was psyched out. If ibm had not dismantled deep blue then any of the top 5 players could have beaten deep blue.
The computer has not surpassed humans in 2002 to 2003 because in 2002-2003 because world champions Kramnik and Kasparov played 3 computer matches. All 3 matches were draws.
Hydra did not surpass man in 2005. The hydra Adams match in 2005 does not prove it either because Adams was not prepared for hydra. After hydra beat Adams Hydra drew against Alexander Khalifman and drew against Rustam Kasimdzhanov. Khalifman had a fide rank of 43 and Kasimdzhanov has a fide rank of 32. If hydra could not beat fide ranks 43 and 32 than hydra did not surpass humans.
But in 2006 world champion kramnik got lots of help while playing 2nd rate fritz on a 2nd rate computer and kramnik still lost. So computer surpassed man in 2006.
But to make it crystal clear to everyone I would like to see world champion Anand play world champion Rybka. How many people would pay to see that match?
mschribr wrote:In 1997 Kasparov was psyched out. If ibm had not dismantled deep blue then any of the top 5 players could have beaten deep blue.
The computer has not surpassed humans in 2002 to 2003 because in 2002-2003 because world champions Kramnik and Kasparov played 3 computer matches. All 3 matches were draws.
Hydra did not surpass man in 2005. The hydra Adams match in 2005 does not prove it either because Adams was not prepared for hydra. After hydra beat Adams Hydra drew against Alexander Khalifman and drew against Rustam Kasimdzhanov. Khalifman had a fide rank of 43 and Kasimdzhanov has a fide rank of 32. If hydra could not beat fide ranks 43 and 32 than hydra did not surpass humans.
But in 2006 world champion kramnik got lots of help while playing 2nd rate fritz on a 2nd rate computer and kramnik still lost. So computer surpassed man in 2006.
But to make it crystal clear to everyone I would like to see world champion Anand play world champion Rybka. How many people would pay to see that match?
I'll pay any amount of money to see a 12 game match between these two
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mschribr wrote:In 1997 Kasparov was psyched out. If ibm had not dismantled deep blue then any of the top 5 players could have beaten deep blue.
The computer has not surpassed humans in 2002 to 2003 because in 2002-2003 because world champions Kramnik and Kasparov played 3 computer matches. All 3 matches were draws.
Hydra did not surpass man in 2005. The hydra Adams match in 2005 does not prove it either because Adams was not prepared for hydra. After hydra beat Adams Hydra drew against Alexander Khalifman and drew against Rustam Kasimdzhanov. Khalifman had a fide rank of 43 and Kasimdzhanov has a fide rank of 32. If hydra could not beat fide ranks 43 and 32 than hydra did not surpass humans.
But in 2006 world champion kramnik got lots of help while playing 2nd rate fritz on a 2nd rate computer and kramnik still lost. So computer surpassed man in 2006.
But to make it crystal clear to everyone I would like to see world champion Anand play world champion Rybka. How many people would pay to see that match?
Hydra beat Kasimdzhanov 1.5-0.5
Khalifman only played one game (a draw) against Hydra.
Also, Hydra beat Ponomariov 3-0
When you add in the Adams games, that looks about like a world championship performance to me. Maybe Hydra was just lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it.
mschribr wrote:Hydra did not surpass man in 2005. The hydra Adams match in 2005 does not prove it either because Adams was not prepared for hydra. After hydra beat Adams Hydra drew against Alexander Khalifman and drew against Rustam Kasimdzhanov. Khalifman had a fide rank of 43 and Kasimdzhanov has a fide rank of 32. If hydra could not beat fide ranks 43 and 32 than hydra did not surpass humans.
Hydra beat Kasimdzhanov 1.5-0.5
Khalifman only played one game (a draw) against Hydra.
Also, Hydra beat Ponomariov 3-0
When you add in the Adams games, that looks about like a world championship performance to me. Maybe Hydra was just lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Hydra drew 1 game with Kasimdzhanov. Kasimdzhanov was 140 points less than the number 1 player. If hydra was playing better than world champion level chess then hydra should have won all games against Kasimdzhanov, a fide number 32 player. Adams losses were because he was not prepared for hydra.
If hydra was so strong why didn’t hydra play the world champion? The owner of hydra, Sheikh in Abu Dhabi, has the money to sponsor a match with the world champion if they wanted to. They didn’t because hydra is not world champion level.
mschribr wrote:Hydra did not surpass man in 2005. The hydra Adams match in 2005 does not prove it either because Adams was not prepared for hydra. After hydra beat Adams Hydra drew against Alexander Khalifman and drew against Rustam Kasimdzhanov. Khalifman had a fide rank of 43 and Kasimdzhanov has a fide rank of 32. If hydra could not beat fide ranks 43 and 32 than hydra did not surpass humans.
Hydra beat Kasimdzhanov 1.5-0.5
Khalifman only played one game (a draw) against Hydra.
Also, Hydra beat Ponomariov 3-0
When you add in the Adams games, that looks about like a world championship performance to me. Maybe Hydra was just lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Hydra drew 1 game with Kasimdzhanov. Kasimdzhanov was 140 points less than the number 1 player. If hydra was playing better than world champion level chess then hydra should have won all games against Kasimdzhanov, a fide number 32 player. Adams losses were because he was not prepared for hydra.
If hydra was so strong why didn’t hydra play the world champion? The owner of hydra, Sheikh in Abu Dhabi, has the money to sponsor a match with the world champion if they wanted to. They didn’t because hydra is not world champion level.
Two speculations in one short sentence,you simply can't know that.no offence is intended of course,just my opinion....
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mschribr wrote:
Hydra drew 1 game with Kasimdzhanov. Kasimdzhanov was 140 points less than the number 1 player. If hydra was playing better than world champion level chess then hydra should have won all games against Kasimdzhanov, a fide number 32 player. Adams losses were because he was not prepared for hydra.
If hydra was so strong why didn’t hydra play the world champion? The owner of hydra, Sheikh in Abu Dhabi, has the money to sponsor a match with the world champion if they wanted to. They didn’t because hydra is not world champion level.
Two speculations in one short sentence,you simply can't know that.no offence is intended of course,just my opinion....
I don’t follow you. What are the 2 speculations? What can’t I know?
Dirt wrote:Hydra beat Kasimdzhanov 1.5-0.5
Khalifman only played one game (a draw) against Hydra.
Also, Hydra beat Ponomariov 3-0
When you add in the Adams games, that looks about like a world championship performance to me. Maybe Hydra was just lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Hydra drew 1 game with Kasimdzhanov. Kasimdzhanov was 140 points less than the number 1 player. If hydra was playing better than world champion level chess then hydra should have won all games against Kasimdzhanov, a fide number 32 player. Adams losses were because he was not prepared for hydra.
If hydra was so strong why didn’t hydra play the world champion? The owner of hydra, Sheikh in Abu Dhabi, has the money to sponsor a match with the world champion if they wanted to. They didn’t because hydra is not world champion level.
So a world champion will never draw against someone rated 140 points lower than them? That's ridiculous. Excusing Adams for not being "ready" is almost as bad. It's not like he learned about the match the day before it started. The nine games against Ponomariov and Adams were way above championship level, which I think outweighs the few others being somewhat less.
Using a prior of 1, and an offset selected to make the Elo of Hydra's opponents match their weighted average (2687). Kasparov was around 2810 at the time.
mschribr wrote:
Hydra drew 1 game with Kasimdzhanov. Kasimdzhanov was 140 points less than the number 1 player. If hydra was playing better than world champion level chess then hydra should have won all games against Kasimdzhanov, a fide number 32 player. Adams losses were because he was not prepared for hydra.
If hydra was so strong why didn’t hydra play the world champion? The owner of hydra, Sheikh in Abu Dhabi, has the money to sponsor a match with the world champion if they wanted to. They didn’t because hydra is not world champion level.
Two speculations in one short sentence,you simply can't know that.no offence is intended of course,just my opinion....
I don’t follow you. What are the 2 speculations? What can’t I know?
1.We don't know if they didn't want to play the world champion,maybe the human refused to play....
2.At that time,we don't know if Hydra was'nt playing at a world champion level....
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