ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Chess Gator wrote:Not likely, i.e. can a human calculate faster than a computer? Nope!

However, there are limitations to the code. Crappy code...Crappy output.
Humans are excellent pattern recognizers. We can plan and play much more strategically. Computers see just numbers, so they are really good in number crunching.
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Uri wrote:
Chess Gator wrote:Not likely, i.e. can a human calculate faster than a computer? Nope!

However, there are limitations to the code. Crappy code...Crappy output.
Humans are excellent pattern recognizers. We can plan and play much more strategically. Computers see just numbers, so they are really good in number crunching.
I wish I could see the numbers they are seeing just like them :lol:
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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It is obvious to me that Chess Gator has never seen or heard of a Savant.
I have observed a couple of these weird geniuses over the years and can testify that they were indeed much faster than any computer made today.
In one test two 16 digit number were spoken out loud to one a computer operator and two to a savant. The numbers were to be multiplied and upon hearing the very last digit the savant started speaking the answer even before the final digit had been entered into the computer. The savant was 100% correct.
This is just one case of one talent and I have seen several other types as well.
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Bill Rogers wrote:It is obvious to me that Chess Gator has never seen or heard of a Savant.
I have observed a couple of these weird geniuses over the years and can testify that they were indeed much faster than any computer made today.
In one test two 16 digit number were spoken out loud to one a computer operator and two to a savant. The numbers were to be multiplied and upon hearing the very last digit the savant started speaking the answer even before the final digit had been entered into the computer. The savant was 100% correct.
This is just one case of one talent and I have seen several other types as well.
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Your arguement Bill, stands on it's head as you are counting the speed of the operator not the computer.


No human not even a savant, can do anywhere near 1.1 Quadrillion calculations per sec. that isn't possible. A quadrillion is a billion million Bill!

You would die of old age over a million life times trying to count to such a large number which Roadrunner does in less than a second!

No one appears to understand how fast Roadrunner actually is!

Roadrunner is nearly 20x faster then the sci-fi supercomputer Skynet in Rise of the Machines which ran at a mere 60 tflops, which btw was the speed Data could compute on Star Trek TNG, sixty trillion operations per second.

Roadrunners speed is beyond most people's understanding.

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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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How much faster is the Roadrunner compared to Deep(er) Blue who beat Kasparov in 1997?
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Their speed is not comparable Roadrunner have processors specialized in floating point computing and DB had specialized chess processors.
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Vinvin wrote:Their speed is not comparable Roadrunner have processors specialized in floating point computing and DB had specialized chess processors.
True but modern programs like Rybka 3 are much stronger than the program which run on Deep(er) Blue. If a massively parallel chess program as strong as Rybka 3 could run on a chess computer which can perform 200,000 kilonodes per second it would be almost unbeatable. I bet such a thing could beat Anand or Topalov 49 games in a row while only losing one and achieve a rating of 3500.

Computers are becoming more parallel all the time. Perhaps sometime around 2035 we'll have personal computers which can perform 200,000 kilonodes per second.
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Uri wrote:
Vinvin wrote:Their speed is not comparable Roadrunner have processors specialized in floating point computing and DB had specialized chess processors.
True but modern programs like Rybka 3 are much stronger than the program which run on Deep(er) Blue. If a massively parallel chess program as strong as Rybka 3 could run on a chess computer which can perform 200,000 kilonodes per second it would be almost unbeatable. I bet such a thing could beat Anand or Topalov 49 games in a row while only losing one and achieve a rating of 3500.

Computers are becoming more parallel all the time. Perhaps sometime around 2035 we'll have personal computers which can perform 200,000 kilonodes per second.

If you can afford it you can get them now. Call Cray for a personal supercomputer or build it yourself and you'll get billions of nodes per sec.

By 2035 machines will be so fast it will be impossible to know how fast they'll be able to search. They will be at least a billion times faster than today!!!
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Roadrunner is nearly 20x faster then the sci-fi supercomputer Skynet in Rise of the Machines which ran at a mere 60 tflops, which btw was the speed Data could compute on Star Trek TNG, sixty trillion operations per second.
With Data Gene Roddenberry clearly underestimated how fast our computing speed would improve, but I wonder if the speed he gave the main computer of Enterprise, 575 zettaops, would be able to hold. It's currently 575 million times faster than Roadrunner. Personally I don't think it'll hold.
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Re: ROADRUNNER: World's Fastest Supercomputer

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Leto wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Roadrunner is nearly 20x faster then the sci-fi supercomputer Skynet in Rise of the Machines which ran at a mere 60 tflops, which btw was the speed Data could compute on Star Trek TNG, sixty trillion operations per second.
With Data Gene Roddenberry clearly underestimated how fast our computing speed would improve, but I wonder if the speed he gave the main computer of Enterprise, 575 zettaops, would be able to hold. It's currently 575 million times faster than Roadrunner. Personally I don't think it'll hold.
Certainly, as supercomputers increase in speed a 1000x every 10yrs., considering very advanced technologies are on the foreseeable horizon _IE_ Spintronics et al, I see this coming in the next 20 years. I can't imagine what they'll be like ~400yrs. from now other than they will be super compact and far more intelligent than a HAL 9000.

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