iPod and computer chess

[Sean Evans]

Hi, with the iPod and it's large hard drive, would I be able able to load up Chessbase Powerbook and use it as the default opening book for all of my chess programs?

Only the iPod Classic with its tiny screen has a disk drive (max 160 GB); all other iPods have flash instead with the iPod Touch topping out with 32 GB in the high end model.

Meaning??

[Sean Evans]

The author of Shredder returned my email query and stated the following:

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From: Shredder Support [mailto:support@shredderchess.com]
Sent: March 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: 'Sean Evans'
Subject: RE: Apple iPod

Hello, we have submitted Shredder Chess for the iPhone a few days ago to Apple. Now it is up to Apple how long they need to add it to their App Store. It should only take a few more days. Best regards Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
==

He claims that is will also run on the iPod

[Sean Evans]

http://www.shredderchess.com/chess-news ... touch.html

[sje]

Not all games will run on all iPod models. Most iPod applications getting press are targeted towards the iPod Touch and the iPhone. Neither has a hard drive.

[Cubeman]

http://www.shredderchess.com/chess-news ... touch.html

This version just uses the web server to play.Needs to be connected to the web.

[Cubeman]

The author of Shredder returned my email query and stated the following:

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From: Shredder Support [mailto:support@shredderchess.com]
Sent: March 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: 'Sean Evans'
Subject: RE: Apple iPod

Hello, we have submitted Shredder Chess for the iPhone a few days ago to Apple. Now it is up to Apple how long they need to add it to their App Store. It should only take a few more days. Best regards Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
==

He claims that is will also run on the iPod

I hope it is alot cheaper than the Shredder Mobile at 39 Euro.It seems that the Euro has skyrocketed in price compared to my native NZ dollars.

[krazyken]

I went ahead and tried The Shredder app. it's $9.95 in the US. The interface is nice. Shredder does not support time controls. It uses Strength levels. It claims the highest level is 2400 which seems optimistic to me. It seems to have about the same strength as Glaurung, but without being able to set equal levels, it is hard to tell.

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "Mar 18, 2009"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Shredder iPod"]
[Black "Glaurung iPod"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. d4 d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Bf5 4. Bg2 e6 5. O-O Be7 6. c4 c6 7. Qb3 Qb6 8. Qxb6
axb6 9. cxd5 cxd5 10. Nc3 Nc6 11. Bf4 Ne4 12. Nb5 O-O 13. a4 Na5 14. Nh4 Bxh4
15. gxh4 Nc4 16. b3 Na5 17. Rab1 Rac8 18. Rb2 Rc6 19. f3 Nf6 20. Kf2 Ra8 21.
Ra1 h6 22. Be5 Nd7 23. Bf4 Nf6 24. Be5 Nd7 25. Bg3 Bc2 26. Ra3 Bxb3 27. Raxb3
Nxb3 28. Rxb3 Rxa4 29. Rb2 Nf6 30. e4 Kf8 31. Bd6+ Ke8 32. Ke3 Ra1 33. e5 Ng8
34. Bb4 Ne7 35. Nd6+ Kd7 36. h5 Rxd6 37. Bxd6 Nf5+ 38. Kd2 Nxd6 39. exd6 Kxd6
40. Rxb6+ Kc7 41. Rb2 b5 42. Ke3 Kc6 43. Kf2 Ra4 44. Bf1 Rxd4 45. Bxb5+ Kd6 46.
Kg3 e5 47. Ra2 Rb4 48. Ra6+ Kc5 49. Be8 Rb7 50. Kg4 Re7 51. Ba4 e4 52. Rc6+ Kd4
53. Bd1 e3 54. Be2 Ke5 55. Ra6 f5+ 56. Kg3 f4+ 57. Kg4 Rb7 58. Ra2 Rb1 59. Bd3
Rg1+ 60. Kh4 Kd4 61. Bg6 Rd1 62. Kg4 Ke5 63. Ra8 Rg1+ 64. Kh3 Rg5 65. Kh4 Rg2
66. Kh3 Rg1 67. Re8+ Kd4 68. Re7 Rg5 69. Kh4 Rg2 70. Bf7 Rxh2+ 71. Kg4 e2 72.
Be8 Kc3 73. Bb5 Kd2 74. Bxe2 Rxe2 75. Ra7 d4 76. Kxf4 d3 77. Rc7 Rg2 78. Re7
Kd1 79. Kf5 d2 80. f4 Rg3 81. Re8 Kc2 82. Rc8+ Rc3 83. Rd8 d1=Q 84. Rxd1 Kxd1
85. Ke6 Rc5 86. Kf7 Rxh5 87. Kxg7 Rf5 88. Kxh6 Ke2 89. Kg6 Rxf4 90. Kg5 Kf3 91.
Kg6 Kg4 92. Kh6 Kf5 93. Kg7 Kg5 94. Kh7 Kf6 95. Kh8 Kf7 96. Kh7 Rh4#
0-1

[Tord Romstad]

I went ahead and tried The Shredder app. it's $9.95 in the US. The interface is nice. Shredder does not support time controls. It uses Strength levels. It claims the highest level is 2400 which seems optimistic to me. It seems to have about the same strength as Glaurung, but without being able to set equal levels, it is hard to tell.

As I wrote in an e-mail to you a few minutes ago, I am almost 100% sure Shredder is significantly stronger at the moment. Glaurung's problem is that it's board representation is extremely inefficient on the ARM CPU. I hope that the non-bitboard rewrite of Glaurung I plan to do later this spring will give Shredder a run for the money (in case somebody wonders, this rewrite is of course not the "exciting plans" I hinted about earlier in this thread).

Even today, however, I think Glaurung has a superior strength/price ratio.

Tord

[Sean Evans]

I went ahead and tried The Shredder app. it's $9.95 in the US. The interface is nice. Shredder does not support time controls. It uses Strength levels. It claims the highest level is 2400 which seems optimistic to me. It seems to have about the same strength as Glaurung, but without being able to set equal levels, it is hard to tell.

How much time per move is 2400 ELO ?

How did you play Shredder against Glaurang, with two identical iPods?

[Sean Evans]

http://www.skizzix.com/games-for-iphone/shredder-chess