ICC for CCT11

[bhlangonijr]

What made you believe that you had anything to do with this debate?

Well because I'm a (new) member here and this topic is open to the public. If you want a private then YOU are in the wrong place.

I am here since 1996. I never met Ben-Hur. Never. So, let's see, you might well have not existed yet under this name in the field, right?

Completely right. So what? People come and people go... We always have a first time.

But are you at least educated enough to realise that such a nobody, from nowhere, has absolutely no business to scapegoat one specific participant here and informing him of his unimportance?

This is not a matter of education. I'm here only to learn with great names like Robert Hyatt, Tord, Gregory Strong, ... the list goes on... By the way I learned a lot with what you call "no-names". But for me all of them do have a name.

You claim a bachelor in computer science and that you started a master, but what has that in any regard to do with the debate here about chess and human chess players in their relation with CC and my personal questions as a chess player and user of the software?

Because in first place YOU have questioned my ability in this field concerning pattern recognition and computer chess. You asked -> I answered. Simply.

Do you insinuate like Hyatt that this here should be a place for exclusive programmers in chess and their relatives? Or is it allowed for the plebs to ask questions? Or should this be restricted to bachelors of that science of computers? What is your intention when you censor my contributions as boring? How could that happen that you felt attracted by such boring stuff at all?

Never said that. For instance, Tord is a mathematician and is one of the best in this field. I've answered that question above. I was attracted by the very topic ICC for CCT11 but suddenly someone hijack the thread posting rubbish. Then I post my opinion (cause I have one either) about someone trashing the thread. Answered?

Why dont you ask at least questions from your perspective, if you dont understand mine? Then I would have got exactly what I want. Because in difference to such bachelors I dont know exactly the thoughts of the engineers of chess and why they mistreat the field of human chess and its representatives. I''m still searching for the deeper reasons. Perhaps it's exactly what you are displaying so well. Namely the arrogance that is fed by the mystification of the higher meaning of mere button pushing. Still searching.

Don't make me laugh. You were not trying to create a debate about your thoughts. You made statements like "computer chess violate FIDE rules" and other such nonsense. If you really have asked people's opinions about that I'm sure this animosity against you were not going to happen at all.

Perhaps the next bachelor, after Matt and Ben-Hur, can do better. All the very best.

My last post. I do respect this forum.

[Rolf]

What made you believe that you had anything to do with this debate?

Well because I'm a (new) member here and this topic is open to the public. If you want a private then YOU are in the wrong place.

I am here since 1996. I never met Ben-Hur. Never. So, let's see, you might well have not existed yet under this name in the field, right?

Completely right. So what? People come and people go... We always have a first time.

But are you at least educated enough to realise that such a nobody, from nowhere, has absolutely no business to scapegoat one specific participant here and informing him of his unimportance?

This is not a matter of education. I'm here only to learn with great names like Robert Hyatt, Tord, Gregory Strong, ... the list goes on... By the way I learned a lot with what you call "no-names". But for me all of them do have a name.

You claim a bachelor in computer science and that you started a master, but what has that in any regard to do with the debate here about chess and human chess players in their relation with CC and my personal questions as a chess player and user of the software?

Because in first place YOU have questioned my ability in this field concerning pattern recognition and computer chess. You asked -> I answered. Simply.

Do you insinuate like Hyatt that this here should be a place for exclusive programmers in chess and their relatives? Or is it allowed for the plebs to ask questions? Or should this be restricted to bachelors of that science of computers? What is your intention when you censor my contributions as boring? How could that happen that you felt attracted by such boring stuff at all?

Never said that. For instance, Tord is a mathematician and is one of the best in this field. I've answered that question above. I was attracted by the very topic ICC for CCT11 but suddenly someone hijack the thread posting rubbish. Then I post my opinion (cause I have one either) about someone trashing the thread. Answered?

Why dont you ask at least questions from your perspective, if you dont understand mine? Then I would have got exactly what I want. Because in difference to such bachelors I dont know exactly the thoughts of the engineers of chess and why they mistreat the field of human chess and its representatives. I''m still searching for the deeper reasons. Perhaps it's exactly what you are displaying so well. Namely the arrogance that is fed by the mystification of the higher meaning of mere button pushing. Still searching.

Don't make me laugh. You were not trying to create a debate about your thoughts. You made statements like "computer chess violate FIDE rules" and other such nonsense. If you really have asked people's opinions about that I'm sure this animosity against you were not going to happen at all.

Perhaps the next bachelor, after Matt and Ben-Hur, can do better. All the very best.

My last post. I do respect this forum.

Are you familiar with classical chess at least? From there I have my questions. Again I have questions to CC people, and I dont know the answers yet - unlike you the "new" member.

Of course it's easy to cue after the most famous expert and then tossing around what someone else had asked. But as it is, Hyatt is the only one who already misbehaved. Is that a good role model for you?

I'm looking forward waiting for your new messages as a new member. If you have questions apart from insulting me. Until then all the best. Insults dont interest me I'm enjoying questions and opinions.

[bob]

My God! You must be eating a rotten sauerkraut...

My name really is Ben-Hur. I have also bachelors degree in computer science and started master's degree in artificial intelligence. Anyway I don't know what you have to do with it.

I guess nobody is supporting you in your lengthy-boring-nonsense posts. Do not hide yourself behind the fake image of a deep thinker. You are just disturbing. What in the planet makes you think you know something special that all CC experts had missed? Honestly I couldn't take any interesting "insights" from your lengthy posts. It's mainly trivia, empty ramblings and polemics.

I'm sorry for that. It's my opinion about the facts. Not insults ad hominem at all.

Take care. I wish the best to you.

What made you believe that you had anything to do with this debate?

I am here since 1996. I never met Ben-Hur. Never. So, let's see, you might well have not existed yet under this name in the field, right?

But are you at least educated enough to realise that such a nobody, from nowhere, has absolutely no business to scapegoat one specific participant here and informing him of his unimportance?

You claim a bachelor in computer science and that you started a master, but what has that in any regard to do with the debate here about chess and human chess players in their relation with CC and my personal questions as a chess player and user of the software?

Do you insinuate like Hyatt that this here should be a place for exclusive programmers in chess and their relatives? Or is it allowed for the plebs to ask questions? Or should this be restricted to bachelors of that science of computers? What is your intention when you censor my contributions as boring? How could that happen that you felt attracted by such boring stuff at all?

Why dont you ask at least questions from your perspective, if you dont understand mine? Then I would have got exactly what I want. Because in difference to such bachelors I dont know exactly the thoughts of the engineers of chess and why they mistreat the field of human chess and its representatives. I''m still searching for the deeper reasons. Perhaps it's exactly what you are displaying so well. Namely the arrogance that is fed by the mystification of the higher meaning of mere button pushing. Still searching.

Perhaps the next bachelor, after Matt and Ben-Hur, can do better. All the very best.

Just to make it clear, you _are_ "irrelevant" and "useless" in the context of computer chess discussions. You only serve to create noise, and offer absolutely no useful content in the process.

[Rolf]

Just to make it clear, you _are_ "irrelevant" and "useless" in the context of computer chess discussions. You only serve to create noise, and offer absolutely no useful content in the process.

If that is correct then you are as irrelevant and useless, just producing noise, when you offer some spooky psychiatric diagnoses in form of dirty insults. Tit for tat.

How come that at your age you must still pretend such pubertarian nonsense, Bob?

Different to me you must always pretend, that you are the greatest everywhere. I do only participate here when it comes to my own field and science in general. And I told you where the IBM subordinates, or even slaves, had betrayed their science. You dont like it. That's normal, but as a scientist you should recognize the realities as they are. But by denying realities you can well then insult Kasparov as asshole or jackass or whatever you had called him. Of course, you the engineer and there the genius of chess. That makes sense. In truth this is really terrible for any scientist.

[Steve B]

OK
this is enough ...
we are locking the thread and we are going to be issuing several warnings and are discussing a possible ban
those involved will be notified by PM/e-mail
Steve