Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
2009 ChessBase April Fool joke
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That is just as scientific as playing 10 games between two programs to see which one is better, when they are actually very close in strength. You will get an answer. And sometimes you will get the right answer. And it proves exactly nothing..Uri Blass wrote:You say:"don't you think its normal if your memory sometimes works a bit better or worse ? lecitine does not play a roll here"
My response:I do not think that it was little worse but that it was something significant.
Imagine that you use some telephone number at least one time every month and remember it for one year and suddenly you simply forget the telephone number.
This or something equivalent did not happen to me when I was young.
It happened to me later before taking the lecitine more than once and it did not happen later after taking it.
Uri
hint:
P.T. Barnum had it _exactly_ right.

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Are you sure? There certainly are substances deteriorating memory, I wouldn't be surprised if there are (or will be) drugs helping memory. The only problem with Uri's testimony is that he didn't compare the effect of lecithin with a placebo (unknowingly so), he just compared with the state prior to lecithin taking, which is a biased experiment.bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
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General consensus is that there is no "compound" involved in memory that is not made inside the body. Cells age naturally, encoded in their DNA, and this is the thing one has to combat, which means some sort of gene therapy one day might do the trick, but not a simple chemical compound.Laskos wrote:Are you sure? There certainly are substances deteriorating memory, I wouldn't be surprised if there are (or will be) drugs helping memory. The only problem with Uri's testimony is that he didn't compare the effect of lecithin with a placebo (unknowingly so), he just compared with the state prior to lecithin taking, which is a biased experiment.bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
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There is a product available which has been proven to enhance learning. I'll look it up when I'm at work tomorrow. Apparently fetches a good price on the black market.Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
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Some notes:bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
1)People never proved something does not mean that it is wrong.
2)It is possible that some vitamin is productive to the memory of one part of the population and counter productive for another part so if you calculate average you can find nothing but it does not prove that the specific vitamin cannot help the memory of part of the world.
Uri
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Seems you forgot to post ,so it does not do any miracles on your memoryGraham Banks wrote:There is a product available which has been proven to enhance learning. I'll look it up when I'm at work tomorrow. Apparently fetches a good price on the black market.Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!

As for learning,buyers will learn it was foolish to spend money on.

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It's possible that space aliens can land, shine a ray gun on your head, and turn you into Albert Einstein. Or a puddle of goo.Uri Blass wrote:Some notes:bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
1)People never proved something does not mean that it is wrong.
2)It is possible that some vitamin is productive to the memory of one part of the population and counter productive for another part so if you calculate average you can find nothing but it does not prove that the specific vitamin cannot help the memory of part of the world.
Uri
However, ask a _doctor_ about this nonsense... A good neurologist will do...
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Recent studies show that Adrenalin is a factor in memory retention. That is, information that is acquired in the state of high adrenalin are remembered more (instantly, and long term - difficult to forget). It is as if adrenalin has that 'binding' effect.bob wrote:General consensus is that there is no "compound" involved in memory that is not made inside the body. Cells age naturally, encoded in their DNA, and this is the thing one has to combat, which means some sort of gene therapy one day might do the trick, but not a simple chemical compound.Laskos wrote:Are you sure? There certainly are substances deteriorating memory, I wouldn't be surprised if there are (or will be) drugs helping memory. The only problem with Uri's testimony is that he didn't compare the effect of lecithin with a placebo (unknowingly so), he just compared with the state prior to lecithin taking, which is a biased experiment.bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
Kai
In a particular experiment, a rat is placed on a water tank, and it moved around until it found a platform somewhere. They repeated the procedure the next day, and the rat again moved around until it found the platform. They don't remember that the previous day they have gone through the same, and that that there is a platform in a fixed location.
Then, in another set of rats, they were injected with adrenalin. On day two (second attempt), the rats went directly to the platform. They remembered their experience from the previous day.
This apparently explains why experiences in high adrenalin state are difficult to forget. This includes dramatic experiences, like war or combat, or life and death situations.
Re: 2009 ChessBase April Fool joke
Does this mean I will never forget the time Sandra Jean Ott broke my heart in the 6th grade? Thats just great!!CThinker wrote:Recent studies show that Adrenalin is a factor in memory retention. That is, information that is acquired in the state of high adrenalin are remembered more (instantly, and long term - difficult to forget). It is as if adrenalin has that 'binding' effect.bob wrote:General consensus is that there is no "compound" involved in memory that is not made inside the body. Cells age naturally, encoded in their DNA, and this is the thing one has to combat, which means some sort of gene therapy one day might do the trick, but not a simple chemical compound.Laskos wrote:Are you sure? There certainly are substances deteriorating memory, I wouldn't be surprised if there are (or will be) drugs helping memory. The only problem with Uri's testimony is that he didn't compare the effect of lecithin with a placebo (unknowingly so), he just compared with the state prior to lecithin taking, which is a biased experiment.bob wrote:Sure it does. It helps you remember what you ate. But there are absolutely _no_ drugs of any kind proven to help memory. Absolutely none.Uri Blass wrote:Terry McCracken wrote:Name one? Memory enhancing drugs are not that good yet let alone supplements.towforce wrote:Of course there are supplements which enhance memory function. What they don't do, however, is automatically increase one's skill in a specific chess opening!
Anyway you missed the point of the April Fool's Prank, as ChessBase was reeling them in with factual stories.
That was the real joke!
I can say that
Lecithin helped my memory after I forgot some telephone numbers that I remembered in the past and my memory got back to the level that it was earlier.
people can say that maybe it is because I believe that it help me and it is not because of the lecithin but I do not believe it.
I read that some food supplements can help the memory and I believe in it.
It is logical to believe that what we eat has some influence on what we remember.
Uri
Kai
In a particular experiment, a rat is placed on a water tank, and it moved around until it found a platform somewhere. They repeated the procedure the next day, and the rat again moved around until it found the platform. They don't remember that the previous day they have gone through the same, and that that there is a platform in a fixed location.
Then, in another set of rats, they were injected with adrenalin. On day two (second attempt), the rats went directly to the platform. They remembered their experience from the previous day.
This apparently explains why experiences in high adrenalin state are difficult to forget. This includes dramatic experiences, like war or combat, or life and death situations.


