AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

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Yar
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AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by Yar »

Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

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Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar
fastest cpu that's there right now that you very soon can buy in a shop.

24 core machines also can get built with it.
No compare with that.

Additional to that the difference in IPC between nehalem/core2 and latest phenom core is very little for Diep, so 6 cores really kicks butt there.

They put 512KB L2 and 6MB L3 on the chip so i suspect on the benchmarks it will look not so genius like some intel cpu's, yet cpu power is what counts for us and there it has 6 fast cores.

6 x 2.6ghz = 12 + 3.6 = 15.6Ghz crunching power a socket.
Biggest box has 15.6 * 4 = 62.4Ghz crunching power.

Compare with Nehalem: 4 x 3.2Ghz = 12.8Ghz single socket
and a maximum of 25.6Ghz for 2 socket box. But well,
those intels are really expensive compared to these Istanbuls.

So that 6 core AMD total owns the rest from crunching viewpoint.
For properly programmed and compiled software that is.

Most optimize only for intel and ignore AMD. Not me!

Diep is relative latency insensitive (it wouldn't work well on big machines otherwise either) compared to other chessprograms.

I understand so is Sjeng. Not sure about others.

What's for sure is that this cpu is rather big. it's far over the optimum,
which makes it large; it's closer to 350 than the 300 mm^2 target that intel and AMD seem to have usually.

An increase of 50% in computational power is always very cool.
Note that it's not the usual factor 2, so let's not get overexcited.

Vincent
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by Sean Evans »

Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar
Link doesn't work try here:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3571
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by Terry McCracken »

diep wrote:
Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar
fastest cpu that's there right now that you very soon can buy in a shop.

24 core machines also can get built with it.
No compare with that.

Additional to that the difference in IPC between nehalem/core2 and latest phenom core is very little for Diep, so 6 cores really kicks butt there.

They put 512KB L2 and 6MB L3 on the chip so i suspect on the benchmarks it will look not so genius like some intel cpu's, yet cpu power is what counts for us and there it has 6 fast cores.

6 x 2.6ghz = 12 + 3.6 = 15.6Ghz crunching power a socket.
Biggest box has 15.6 * 4 = 62.4Ghz crunching power.

Compare with Nehalem: 4 x 3.2Ghz = 12.8Ghz single socket
and a maximum of 25.6Ghz for 2 socket box. But well,
those intels are really expensive compared to these Istanbuls.

So that 6 core AMD total owns the rest from crunching viewpoint.
For properly programmed and compiled software that is.

Most optimize only for intel and ignore AMD. Not me!

Diep is relative latency insensitive (it wouldn't work well on big machines otherwise either) compared to other chessprograms.

I understand so is Sjeng. Not sure about others.

What's for sure is that this cpu is rather big. it's far over the optimum,
which makes it large; it's closer to 350 than the 300 mm^2 target that intel and AMD seem to have usually.

An increase of 50% in computational power is always very cool.
Note that it's not the usual factor 2, so let's not get overexcited.

Vincent
Intel is soon to release an eight core chip so don't jump the gun.
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by Yar »

Terry McCracken wrote:
diep wrote:
Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar

Vincent
Intel is soon to release an eight core chip so don't jump the gun.
Its not that soon, most likely q4 2009 or q1 2010.
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by Terry McCracken »

Yar wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
diep wrote:
Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar

Vincent
Intel is soon to release an eight core chip so don't jump the gun.
Its not that soon, most likely q4 2009 or q1 2010.
That's only a few months away and the new chip will eat AMD for breakfast, lunch and dinner. :wink:
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by M ANSARI »

Intel is already out with a 6 core chip that can be used in dual socket motherboards and I think quad socket platforms. The 8 core is not so far back. AMD is always a little late with new technology. If they could just have done that 6 months ago.
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by bob »

Yar wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
diep wrote:
Yar wrote:Hello,

AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435 "Istanbul" is out. Benchmarks you can find here:
http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3571

With best regards,
Yar

Vincent
Intel is soon to release an eight core chip so don't jump the gun.
Its not that soon, most likely q4 2009 or q1 2010.
The quotes I have heard, directly from inside Intel, were 4q. But this was specifically the 4-socket version. We have been having discussions about a 4,000 core cluster with them, this processor is the "target".
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by S.Taylor »

I really ought to be ashamed of my ignorance. But to save time, I'll go straight ahead and ask,

Is this new six-core thing, with 32 bit or 64 bit technology?


IF it is 64-bit, then does that make it like 12 times as fast as a single 32-bit proccessor (if the software is able to take advantage of the 64-bit)?

Thanks, for any clear answer.
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Re: AMD's Six-Core Opteron 2435

Post by bob »

S.Taylor wrote:I really ought to be ashamed of my ignorance. But to save time, I'll go straight ahead and ask,

Is this new six-core thing, with 32 bit or 64 bit technology?


IF it is 64-bit, then does that make it like 12 times as fast as a single 32-bit proccessor (if the software is able to take advantage of the 64-bit)?

Thanks, for any clear answer.
Everything new is 64 bit, when talking about PCs and the like.