BigLion and burn out

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Matthias Gemuh
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BigLion and burn out

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I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
http://www.chess.hylogic.de
Christopher Conkie
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
Rubbish.

Did you have a bad day.....?

Let me tell you I had a worse one. But.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98P-gu_vMRc

We all have a "Concerto For a Rainy Day".

Think again......

;-)

Christopher
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
Rubbish.

Did you have a bad day.....?

Let me tell you I had a worse one. But.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98P-gu_vMRc

We all have a "Concerto For a Rainy Day".

Think again......

;-)

Christopher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSjCDxoBPY

I will always use BigLion.
Dann Corbit
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
I think that burn out is the biggest problem for computer chess programmers. I guess that 75% eventually succumb to it.

Even authors of the strongest engines fall to it:

Bruce Moreland
Alexander Naumov
Anthony Cozzie
Marty Hirsch
Richard Lang
Chrilly Donninger
Jean-Christophe Weill
Ernst Heinz
Dan Wulf
Sylvain Renard
Ed Schroder
James Robertson
etc.

So you are in good company. The people who get sick and tired of it are the norm. Those who stick to it are as rare as hen's teeth.
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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For quite some time, I shall just watch my engines play and lose against equal or weaker engines.

Maybe the impulse would then be to fix things somehow.

Just a therapeutical thought,
Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
http://www.chess.hylogic.de
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
Hi Matthias,

you've done a fantastic job developing ChessGUI, so I can well understand that you need a break.
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
Christopher Conkie
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Graham Banks wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
Hi Matthias,

you've done a fantastic job developing ChessGUI, so I can well understand that you need a break.
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.
Or we should whip him......

;-)
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:I tried to work on my aging chess engine BigLion today and was shocked.
Why ? alarmingly little motivation :evil: !
I have to wait till motivation "comes back".

Meanwhile, the engine should be thrown out of tournaments, if deemed too old.

Relaxing,
Matthias.
Hi Matthias,

you've done a fantastic job developing ChessGUI, so I can well understand that you need a break.
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.
Or we should whip him......

;-)
:lol:
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Hi Matthias,

you've done a fantastic job developing ChessGUI, so I can well understand that you need a break.
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.
Or we should whip him......

;-)
... if only that could help :wink:
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
http://www.chess.hylogic.de
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: BigLion and burn out

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Graham Banks wrote:
Hi Matthias,

...
You should only do what you want to do or enjoy doing. Once something becomes a chore, there's no point to it.

Cheers,
Graham.

That is the key issue :D .
My current passion is playing infinite swiss with 1000 engines in ChessGUI.

Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
http://www.chess.hylogic.de